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Hattie Carson

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Im a tax attorney and I'll give you the honest (maybe unwelcome) answer: the Ferrari is a red flag. Can you deduct a percentage based on business use? Technically yes, with proper documentation. But luxury sports cars are audit magnets. The IRS specifically looks for business owners claiming exotic cars. They know most people dont buy Ferraris for business necessity. Regarding your sisters plane: the IRS allows deductions for travel between business locations. If those properties are legitimate business investments requiring her physical presence, then yes, reasonable travel costs can be deductible. But heres the key difference: Her travel serves a clear business purpose. Your desired Ferrari's primary purpose appears to be personal enjoyment with incidental business use.

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My friend just bought a Porsche 911 for his real estate business and wrote the whole thing off! Said his accountant told him it was totally fine as long as he puts the business logo on it. Is that true?

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Ryan Andre

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@Destiny Bryant Your friend s'accountant gave him terrible advice. Just putting a business logo on a personal vehicle doesn t'magically make it 100% deductible. The IRS looks at actual business use, not marketing stickers. A Porsche 911 for real estate? That s'going to be a huge red flag in an audit. The IRS will want to see detailed mileage logs proving business necessity, and I "need a sports car to show clients houses isn" t'going to fly. Your friend is setting himself up for penalties, interest, and potentially fraud charges if he s'claiming 100% business use on what s'clearly a personal luxury vehicle. He needs to get a second opinion from a competent tax professional before he gets audited. The proper way is to track actual business mileage and only deduct that percentage of vehicle expenses - and even then, luxury vehicles have strict depreciation limits that make the deduction much smaller than people expect.

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As someone who's dealt with this exact question for my consulting business, I can tell you the reality is much less exciting than those YouTube videos make it seem. The IRS has what's called the "ordinary and necessary" test - your business expenses have to be both ordinary (common in your industry) and necessary (helpful and appropriate for your business). A Ferrari for a digital marketing agency? That's going to be really hard to justify. Even if you could somehow argue business necessity, you're looking at strict depreciation limits. For 2024, passenger vehicles are capped at around $11,200 in first-year depreciation regardless of the purchase price. So even if you bought a $300k Ferrari and used it 100% for business (which would be nearly impossible to prove), your deduction would still be limited. The mileage tracking requirement is no joke either. You need date, destination, business purpose, and mileage for every single business trip. "I drove to Starbucks to work" probably won't cut it unless you're meeting actual clients there. My advice? If you want the Ferrari, buy it because you love it and can afford it personally. Don't try to force a tax justification that could land you in audit trouble. The potential savings aren't worth the headache and risk.

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This is really helpful advice! I'm just starting my own business and was getting excited about all the potential tax benefits I kept hearing about. It sounds like the reality is much more restrictive than those entrepreneur influencers make it seem. Quick question - you mentioned the $11,200 depreciation limit for passenger vehicles. Does that apply every year, or just the first year? And is there any scenario where someone legitimately COULD write off a luxury car, or is it basically never worth it from a tax perspective? I'm trying to set realistic expectations for myself as I grow my business. Better to understand the actual rules now than get in trouble later!

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Amina Bah

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I'm in the exact same situation with cycle code 0705! Filed on January 30th and have been checking my transcript obsessively. After reading all these responses, I feel so much better knowing this is normal for our cycle code. I had no idea about the Thursday update pattern - I've been wasting so much time checking randomly throughout the week. It's also really helpful to know what codes to look for (especially that 846 code everyone mentions). I'm dealing with a similar situation where I need the refund for some urgent car repairs, so the waiting has been pretty stressful. But seeing that other late January 0705 filers are starting to get their DDDs this week gives me hope! Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - this community is incredibly supportive.

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I'm also new here and have been lurking with the same 0705 cycle code anxiety! Filed January 26th and was getting really worried when I hit the 6-week mark. Reading through everyone's experiences here has been such a game-changer - I had no clue about the Thursday transcript update schedule or what the 846 code meant. It's amazing how much stress melts away when you realize you're not alone in this waiting process. I'm definitely going to start checking only on Thursday mornings instead of my current obsessive daily checking routine. Thanks to everyone for sharing their knowledge and making us newcomers feel welcome in this stressful but apparently very normal situation!

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Paolo Rizzo

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I'm also dealing with the 0705 cycle code situation and filed January 29th! Reading through everyone's experiences here has been incredibly reassuring - I had no idea there were so many of us in the same boat. Like many of you, I've been checking my transcript randomly throughout the week and getting more anxious each day. The Thursday update schedule makes perfect sense now, and I'm definitely switching to that pattern instead of my daily obsessive checking. I'm in a similar spot where I need my refund for some urgent expenses (medical bills in my case), so the uncertainty has been really stressful. But seeing that other late January 0705 filers are starting to get their DDDs gives me so much hope! I've learned more about transcript codes in this thread than anywhere else - especially about looking for that magical 846 code. Thank you to everyone who's shared their knowledge and experiences. This community has turned my anxiety into patience, which is exactly what I needed. Here's hoping we all see some positive movement on our Thursday transcript checks!

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Dylan Cooper

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I'm also new to this community and have been dealing with the exact same 0705 cycle code stress! Filed on February 2nd and have been checking my transcript almost daily, which I now realize was completely unnecessary thanks to everyone's helpful insights about Thursday updates. Like you, I need my refund for some pressing expenses (emergency home repairs that can't wait much longer), so the waiting has been nerve-wracking. Reading through all these responses has been such a relief - it's incredible how much better I feel knowing this is totally normal and that late January/early February 0705 filers are starting to see movement. I had never heard of transcript codes like 846 before finding this thread, and now I know exactly what to look for. Thank you to everyone for creating such a supportive space for us anxious filers!

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Aria Khan

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I've been tracking refund patterns this tax season, and I'm seeing a clear trend of transcripts updating 3-5 days before WMR updates. What specific codes do you see on your transcript? Have you checked for a 570 code (indicates a temporary hold) or a 971 code (notice issued)? If you only see the 846 code with a future date, that's very promising. Did you claim any refundable credits like the Child Tax Credit or Earned Income Credit that might trigger additional verification?

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This is so relatable! 😤 I'm going through the EXACT same thing right now - transcript updated showing my refund date but WMR is still stuck on that useless first bar. It's honestly infuriating how their systems can't sync up properly in 2025! From what I've learned lurking in this community, the transcript is definitely the more reliable source. If you see that 846 code with a date, that's typically when your deposit will hit. I've been documenting everything too after reading horror stories from previous years. The waiting game is brutal though, especially when you have real expenses waiting on that money. Fingers crossed both our deposits come through on schedule! šŸ¤ž Keep us posted when yours hits - it gives the rest of us hope!

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YES! This is exactly what I needed to hear! šŸ˜… It's so frustrating how the IRS can't get their act together with these systems - like you said, it's 2025! But I'm feeling more confident about trusting my transcript now after reading everyone's experiences here. The 846 code is definitely there with next week's date, so I'm cautiously optimistic. Thanks for the solidarity - this waiting game really is brutal when you have bills piling up! I'll definitely update when mine hits. Here's hoping we both get our money on schedule! šŸ¤žāœØ

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Ryan Young

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PSA: There's a specific code on your transcript (846) that shows when the refund was actually sent. You can verify if it actually went out on 2/26 by checking your transcript. If you don't see that code with the 2/26 date, the money hasn't actually been released yet regardless of what WMR says. You can access this on irs.gov through your online account.

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Sophia Clark

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Just tried to check my transcript but the verification system is so annoying. Can't get past it. Ugh.

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Emma Johnson

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I did actually check my transcript and I do see the 846 code with 2/26 date. So I guess it really is on CashApp's end now.

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I'm in the exact same boat with CashApp and the 2/26 DD date! Been checking my account obsessively for days now. Reading through all these comments is actually really helpful - sounds like CashApp just takes longer to process IRS refunds than traditional banks. I'm going to check my transcript tonight to see if I have that 846 code with the 2/26 date to confirm the IRS actually sent it. At least now I know it's normal for CashApp to take up to 5 business days. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - makes me feel way less anxious about this!

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Same here! I've been refreshing my CashApp every few hours like it's going to magically appear šŸ˜… It's so nerve-wracking when you're expecting money and it just doesn't show up when it's supposed to. I didn't realize the 5 business day thing was normal for CashApp - definitely going to remember that for next year. The transcript checking tip is super helpful too, I'm going to try that tonight as well. Glad we're all going through this together!

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Omar Zaki

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You're definitely not alone in this! I've been through the same anxiety with delayed refunds before. That obsessive checking is so real - I probably refreshed my banking app 50 times a day when I was waiting for mine. The transcript thing really does help give you peace of mind because at least you'll know for sure if the IRS actually sent it out. Once you see that 846 code with your date, you know it's just a waiting game with CashApp. Hopefully yours hits soon! Keep us updated when it comes through.

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I went through this exact same situation about 6 months ago and can definitely confirm that calling the IRS is still a totally valid option for setting up payment plans without dealing with the biometric data requirements. The phone process was honestly more straightforward than I expected. I called 1-800-829-1040 on a Wednesday morning around 7:45 AM and got through in about an hour. The agent was able to set everything up just by verifying my identity with my SSN, last year's AGI, and some basic info from my tax return - no facial recognition or any of that invasive stuff required. Yes, the phone setup fee is higher ($107 vs $31 for online), but for me the privacy trade-off was absolutely worth it. Plus, once it's set up, making payments through IRS Direct Pay is super simple and doesn't require any account creation. I've been making my monthly payments that way for months now with zero issues. One thing I'd recommend - when you call, be very clear that you want to avoid creating any online accounts due to privacy concerns. The agents are totally used to this request now and will make sure to note it in your file. They'll send you payment coupons by mail, but honestly Direct Pay is way more convenient than mailing checks anyway. The wait times can be brutal, so definitely try calling early in the morning on a Tuesday, Wednesday, or Thursday if possible. Having all your paperwork ready before you call will make the actual conversation much quicker once you get through to someone.

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Paolo Rizzo

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Thank you for sharing your experience! As someone new to dealing with IRS payment plans, this is incredibly reassuring. I've been putting off addressing my tax debt specifically because of the biometric verification concerns, and it's really helpful to hear from people who have successfully gone the phone route recently. One question - when you mentioned that the agent noted your privacy preference in your file, does that help if you ever need to call back in the future? I'm wondering if that notation prevents them from suggesting online options or trying to push you toward creating an account during future interactions. Also, I'm curious about the payment coupons they send by mail - are those just for record-keeping, or do you actually need them for anything when using Direct Pay? I want to make sure I understand the full process before I make the call. The timing advice about early Wednesday mornings is really valuable too. I'll definitely plan to call then with all my documents organized. Thanks for taking the time to share such detailed information!

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Yes, having that privacy preference noted in your file definitely helps with future interactions! When I've called back with questions about my payment plan, the agents can see that notation and don't try to push online account creation or suggest switching to the web-based system. It saves time and avoids having to re-explain your privacy concerns every time. The payment coupons are mainly for backup/record-keeping when using Direct Pay. You don't actually need them to make payments - Direct Pay just requires your SSN, the payment amount, and your bank info. However, I do keep the coupons because they have helpful reference numbers and show your exact payment schedule, which can be useful if you ever need to reference specific details about your installment agreement. The coupons also serve as a paper trail showing your agreed-upon payment amounts and due dates, which I find reassuring. If there's ever a dispute or if Direct Pay is temporarily unavailable, you can always fall back to mailing a check using the coupon. One more tip for your call - write down the confirmation number they give you for your installment agreement setup. You'll get a written confirmation in the mail later, but having that number immediately can be helpful if you need to reference your case during any follow-up calls.

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I really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences with the phone route for setting up IRS payment plans. As someone who's been hesitating to deal with my own tax debt because of privacy concerns about the biometric verification, this thread has been incredibly helpful. The consensus seems clear that calling the IRS is still a viable and straightforward option, even with the higher setup fee. The $76 difference really isn't significant when you consider the peace of mind from avoiding biometric data collection, especially given all the data breach concerns we've been seeing lately. I'm planning to follow the advice here and call on a Tuesday or Wednesday morning around 7:30 AM with all my documents ready. It's reassuring to know that the agents are familiar with privacy-conscious taxpayers and can note that preference in your file for future interactions. The Direct Pay system for making monthly payments sounds like it works seamlessly without any account creation, which addresses my main concern about ongoing privacy issues after the initial setup. Thanks to everyone who took the time to share detailed, real-world experiences rather than just general advice. This kind of firsthand information is exactly what people need when navigating these situations where privacy and compliance intersect.

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Dmitry Volkov

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I'm so glad this thread has been helpful for you! As someone who was also hesitant about the biometric requirements, I completely understand the relief of finding out there are still privacy-respecting alternatives available. One additional tip I'd suggest - when you do call, consider jotting down the name or ID number of the agent who helps you set up your payment plan. While your privacy preferences should be noted in your file, having that reference can be helpful if you need to call back with specific questions about your agreement setup. Also, don't be surprised if the agent asks whether you're sure you don't want to set up direct debit from your bank account (which has lower fees). Just politely confirm that you prefer the non-direct debit option so you can maintain control over when payments are made. They're required to mention the lower-cost options, but they won't pressure you once you decline. The fact that so many people in this thread have successfully gone through this process recently really shows that the IRS is accommodating privacy concerns, even if they don't advertise these alternatives as prominently as the online options. Good luck with your call - you've got this!

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