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Thanks for starting this discussion! I'm in a similar boat with about $28k in back taxes from my consulting business. Reading through everyone's experiences has been really eye-opening. I've been leaning toward trying the DIY approach first using some of the tools mentioned here. The idea of paying $4-5k upfront to a company like TaxRise when I might be able to handle it myself (or with a local CPA for much less) makes a lot of sense. One question for those who've gone the self-representation route: how did you handle the intimidation factor of dealing directly with the IRS? I keep imagining worst-case scenarios where I say the wrong thing and make my situation worse. Any tips for building confidence before making that first call? Also, has anyone used the Taxpayer Advocate Service? I've seen it mentioned on the IRS website but not sure if it's relevant for situations like ours.
Great question about the intimidation factor! I was terrified of my first IRS call too, but here's what helped me: First, remember that IRS agents are just people doing their jobs - they actually want to help you resolve your situation because it closes cases for them. Second, prepare beforehand by writing down your key points and having all relevant documents ready. Third, if you get an agent who seems unhelpful, politely end the call and try again later - you'll often get someone different. Regarding the Taxpayer Advocate Service, they're definitely worth knowing about but typically only get involved when you've already tried normal IRS channels and hit roadblocks, or when you're facing significant hardship. For straightforward installment agreements or offers in compromise, you probably won't need them initially, but it's good to know they exist as a backup if things get complicated. One tip that really helped my confidence: start by calling the IRS just to request transcripts or basic account information before diving into resolution discussions. It's low-stakes practice that gets you comfortable with their phone system and procedures!
I really appreciate everyone sharing their experiences here! As someone who's worked in tax resolution for over a decade, I want to add a few thoughts that might help you make the best decision for your specific situation. The $36k debt with multiple unfiled returns definitely makes your case more complex than a simple installment agreement. Companies like TaxRise can be worth it IF you truly don't have the time or capacity to handle it yourself, but you're right to be cautious about the costs. Here's what I'd recommend: Start by getting your tax transcripts from the IRS (you can order these online) and filing those missing returns yourself or with a local preparer. Once you have a complete picture of what you actually owe (penalties and interest can be negotiated), then decide if you want professional help. The Fresh Start program mentioned earlier is real and has helped millions of taxpayers. For your debt level, you'd likely qualify for a streamlined installment agreement without extensive financial disclosure if you can pay it off within 72 months. One red flag to watch for with ANY tax relief company: if they guarantee specific outcomes or tell you to stop communicating with the IRS while they "handle everything," run. Legitimate professionals will always be upfront about what they can and cannot promise. Your health crisis and business complications might actually work in your favor for penalty abatement - the IRS has reasonable cause provisions that many taxpayers don't know about.
This is incredibly helpful advice! I hadn't considered that my health crisis might actually help with penalty abatement - that's definitely something I want to look into. The idea of starting with tax transcripts and getting the complete picture before deciding on professional help makes a lot of sense. One follow-up question: when you mention "reasonable cause provisions," what kind of documentation would typically be needed to support a health crisis claim? I have medical records from that period, but I'm not sure what the IRS would specifically want to see to justify the unfiled returns. Also, for the streamlined installment agreement you mentioned - is there a significant difference in terms or approval likelihood compared to a regular installment agreement that might make it worth pursuing?
I went through this exact same confusion about 6 months ago! "Tax Per Return" is basically the total tax liability that was calculated on your original tax return - think of it as your "gross" tax amount before any withholdings, estimated payments, or credits get applied. So if your Tax Per Return shows $5,500 but you had $6,800 withheld from your paychecks throughout the year, you'd actually be getting a $1,300 refund! That scary high number you're seeing isn't what you currently owe the IRS - it's just your baseline tax calculation before everything else gets factored in. The IRS transcript codes are honestly so unnecessarily complicated for regular people. I remember spending an entire evening trying to decode mine and thinking I'd made some huge mistake. Don't stress about that big number until you look at the complete picture with all your withholdings and payments included! š
This thread has been such a lifesaver! I was literally about to call in sick to work tomorrow so I could spend the day on hold with the IRS trying to figure out if I owed them thousands of dollars. Your explanation about it being the "gross" amount before withholdings really clicked for me - it's like seeing your paycheck before taxes get taken out. I can't believe how many of us have gone through this exact same panic over transcript terminology. The IRS really needs to hire someone to translate all these codes into normal human language! Thanks for sharing your experience and saving my sanity š
I totally get why you're confused - those transcript codes are like reading hieroglyphics! "Tax Per Return" is basically the total income tax you calculated on your original return before any withholdings or payments were applied. Think of it like the "before discounts" price at checkout. So if your Tax Per Return shows $8,000 but you had $9,500 withheld from paychecks during the year, you'd actually get a $1,500 refund! That big scary number isn't what you owe right now - it's just your starting tax liability before all your payments get factored in. I went through this same panic last year and honestly, the IRS really needs to make these terms way clearer for us regular folks. Don't stress about that high number until you see the full picture! š
Omg yes, those transcript codes are absolutely like hieroglyphics! I just went through this same exact panic attack situation last week. I was staring at my "Tax Per Return" number thinking I somehow owed the IRS my entire life savings š Your checkout discount analogy is spot on - it really is just the "before" number. I ended up spending like 3 hours googling every single code on my transcript until I finally understood what was going on. The IRS seriously needs to hire someone to translate this stuff into actual human language instead of making us all think we're financial criminals! Thanks for the reassurance that I'm not the only one who freaked out over this š
Has anyone used their home gym for both in-person training clients AND filming content for online coaching? I'm wondering if I can write off the entire room as a home office if it's used for both purposes?
I do exactly this! I use my home gym for 1-on-1 clients and filming workout content. My tax guy said I can deduct the square footage of that room as a home office since it's used exclusively for business. But you CANNOT use that space for personal workouts at all or it disqualifies the entire deduction. I literally have a separate area in my basement with a few dumbbells for my own workouts to keep everything clean for tax purposes.
Great question! I'm in a similar situation - planning to launch my personal training business early next year but want to get my equipment sorted now. From what I've researched, the key is showing "active preparation" for your business launch. One thing I'd add to the excellent advice already given - consider getting your business license and EIN now if you haven't already. Even if you're not actively earning revenue yet, having these official documents helps establish your business intent timeline for the IRS. Also, I'd recommend creating a detailed business plan that includes your equipment needs and how each piece will be used for client training. This documentation becomes really valuable if you ever get questioned about the business purpose of your purchases. Keep in mind that if you're buying higher-value equipment (like a $3,000 home gym setup), you might want to spread some purchases into 2025 to maximize your deduction benefits across tax years. Good luck with the launch!
Just went through this exact situation last month! They absolutely will take the full $750 regardless of how small it seems. I owed $680 in back child support and was expecting a $2,100 refund. Got a letter from the Bureau of Fiscal Service about a week before my refund date explaining the offset. They took exactly $680 and I received the remaining $1,420 about 10 days later than my normal refund timing. The process is completely automated once your name hits their database - there's no human reviewing whether the amount is "worth it" or not. If you haven't received a Pre-Offset Notice yet, definitely update your address with both the IRS and your state child support agency because those notices are crucial for understanding your options.
Thanks for sharing your experience! It's helpful to hear from someone who just went through this. I'm curious - did you get any advance warning beyond the Pre-Offset Notice? Like, were you able to see anything on your IRS transcript that indicated the offset was coming, or was the notice really the first sign?
This is really valuable firsthand info! I'm dealing with a similar situation where I owe about $1,200 in back support. Did you have any luck disputing the amount with your state child support agency, or was the $680 figure accurate? Also wondering if the 10-day delay for the remainder of your refund is typical - I'm trying to plan my budget around when I might actually see any money.
The $750 will definitely be taken - there's no minimum threshold for child support offsets. I work in tax preparation and see this constantly during filing season. The Treasury Offset Program is completely automated, so once you're in their system, any refund gets intercepted regardless of the amount. What many people don't realize is that you should have received a Pre-Offset Notice around December or January explaining this would happen. If you didn't get one, check that your address is current with both the IRS and your state child support enforcement agency. The good news is if your refund is larger than $750, you'll get the difference back - it just takes an extra 2-3 weeks to process after the offset. The key thing to remember is that disputing the amount needs to be done through your state child support agency, not the IRS. The IRS is just the middleman collecting the money.
This is really helpful information, especially about the Pre-Offset Notice timing! I'm new to dealing with tax issues and had no idea there were specific notices that should come out in December/January. Quick question - when you say disputing needs to be done through the state child support agency, is there a typical timeframe for how long that process takes? I'm wondering if it's even worth trying to dispute if tax season is already underway, or if people should just accept the offset and work on resolving things for next year.
Daniel Rogers
Does anyone know if there's a way to amend a previous year's tax return to add a Form 3520 that I should have filed? I received a gift from my uncle in Germany in 2023 but didn't know about the reporting requirement until now.
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Aaliyah Reed
ā¢Yes, you can file a late Form 3520. You'd need to complete the form for tax year 2023 and send it in asap. There might be penalties, but filing late is better than not filing at all. The IRS sometimes waives penalties if you have a reasonable cause for the late filing and include a letter explaining the situation.
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Alexis Renard
For anyone dealing with Form 3520 for the first time, here's a quick tip that helped me: keep detailed records of the gift including the date received, amount in both foreign currency and USD (using the exchange rate on the date received), and documentation showing the relationship to the gift giver. The IRS wants to see that it's truly a gift and not income in disguise. Also, if you're close to any of the thresholds mentioned above, it's worth consulting with a tax professional who specializes in international tax issues - the penalties for getting this wrong are steep enough that professional help often pays for itself.
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Olivia Evans
ā¢This is really helpful advice! I'm curious about the exchange rate part - do you use the rate from a specific source like XE.com or does the IRS have a preferred exchange rate source they want you to use? Also, when you mention "income in disguise," what kind of documentation typically satisfies the IRS that it's truly a gift? I'm worried they might question a large gift from a relative I don't see very often.
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