Setting up an IRS Payment Plan - Is it better to do it by Phone or Online?
I just got hit with a bill from the IRS for around $4100 and there's no way I can pay it all at once right now. I'm looking to set up a payment plan (Non-direct debit), but I'm running into issues with the online process. When I try to create an account on the IRS website, they're asking for biometric data which honestly makes me really uncomfortable. I don't see why they need my facial recognition or whatever just so I can make payments on what I owe. I had a payment plan years ago (back in 2017) that my previous tax guy set up for me over the phone. I remember I didn't need to create any account - I just went to the IRS payment page and paid through some third-party processor each month. Is that still an option? Privacy-wise, would I be better off just calling the IRS to set up the plan and then making payments through their site? I really don't want to share my biometric data if I don't have to. Any advice would be super appreciated!
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Melody Miles
This is a valid concern many taxpayers have these days. You absolutely can still set up a payment plan over the phone instead of online, and it might be the better option in your situation. When you call the IRS (1-800-829-1040), you can explain that you want to set up an installment agreement without creating an online account. The representative will ask for identifying information to verify your identity verbally, then they can establish your payment plan. You'll receive a confirmation letter in the mail with your payment details. For non-direct debit plans, you'll be able to make payments several ways without an online account: - Through the IRS Direct Pay system (no registration required) - By mailing checks with your payment vouchers - Using the Electronic Federal Tax Payment System (EFTPS) - Paying by credit/debit card through approved payment processors Just keep in mind that payment plans established by phone typically have slightly higher setup fees than online plans, but it's a reasonable trade-off if you're concerned about the biometric data requirements.
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Nathaniel Mikhaylov
•Do you know if there's any way to verify if the IRS actually keeps your biometric data permanently? I've heard conflicting things about whether they just use it for verification but don't store it, or if they keep it forever. And also, do you happen to know the current fee difference between setting it up by phone vs online?
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Melody Miles
•The IRS uses ID.me for identity verification, and there's been significant debate about their data retention policies. While they claim to only use it for verification, they do store the data according to their privacy policies. The exact retention period isn't always clear, and policies have changed following public pressure. For fees, currently an online payment agreement costs $31 for a non-direct debit installment plan, while setting it up by phone is $107. It's a pretty big difference, but if privacy is your priority, many taxpayers decide the higher fee is worth it to avoid the biometric requirements.
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Eva St. Cyr
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Kristian Bishop
•How exactly does taxr.ai work? Do they just give advice or do they actually communicate with the IRS for you? I'm confused about what service they're actually providing and if it costs money.
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Kaitlyn Otto
•I'm skeptical about using third-party services with tax issues. Couldn't most of this information be found on the IRS website for free? What's the advantage of using taxr.ai versus just calling the IRS directly and asking them the same questions?
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Eva St. Cyr
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Kaitlyn Otto
I wanted to follow up about my experience with taxr.ai since I was initially skeptical. I decided to try it because I kept getting different answers from IRS reps every time I called. It was surprisingly helpful - I uploaded my IRS notice and financial information, and received a detailed analysis showing exactly how much I'd pay in fees, penalties and interest with different payment plans. The report showed me that setting up a 72-month plan by phone would actually save me money despite the higher setup fee because of how the penalties were structured for my situation. The step-by-step call script made the phone call with the IRS so much easier - the agent even commented that I was more prepared than most callers. I got my payment plan set up without creating an online account, and I'm saving about $280 over the life of my payment plan compared to what I was initially considering.
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Axel Far
If you're having trouble getting through to the IRS on the phone (which is practically guaranteed these days), I recommend using Claimyr to get past the hold times. I spent DAYS trying to get through to set up my payment plan without using the online system. I found https://claimyr.com after my fifth attempt waiting on hold for 2+ hours before getting disconnected. They have this system where they navigate the IRS phone tree and wait on hold FOR you, then call you when there's actually an agent ready to talk. You can see how it works here: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c For something like setting up a payment plan where you need to talk to a real person but don't want to use the online system, it's a lifesaver. I was able to get my payment plan set up in a single afternoon instead of burning vacation days trying to get through.
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Jasmine Hernandez
•How does this actually work though? I don't understand how they can get through faster than I would if I called directly. Does the IRS prioritize their calls or something?
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Luis Johnson
•This sounds like a scam to me. Why would I pay someone else to call the IRS when I can just keep trying myself? Plus, how do you know they're not recording your conversation or collecting your personal info to sell?
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Axel Far
•They don't get through any faster than you would - they just wait on hold so you don't have to. Their system navigates the phone tree, waits through the hold time (which can be hours), and then calls you when a human IRS agent actually answers. It's basically like having someone else sit on hold for you. I had the same security concerns initially. They don't actually join your call - they connect you directly to the IRS agent once they get through. They can't hear or record your conversation with the IRS, and they don't collect any of your tax information. You're the one who talks directly to the IRS about your personal information after they connect you.
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Luis Johnson
I need to eat my words about Claimyr being a scam. After spending literally 4 hours on hold with the IRS yesterday only to get disconnected, I was desperate enough to try it. It actually worked exactly as advertised. I got a text when they started the call, updates while they were waiting, and then my phone rang when they had an IRS agent on the line. I was connected directly to a very helpful IRS representative who set up my payment plan over the phone. The whole process from my end took maybe 15 minutes of actual time. For anyone else worried about the biometric data thing, the phone agent confirmed that I could make all my payments through Direct Pay on the IRS website without creating an account. She sent me confirmation in the mail with all the information I'll need to make payments.
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Ellie Kim
I went through this same issue last year. If you're worried about fees, there's another option - you can also set up a payment plan by mail by filing Form 9465 (Installment Agreement Request). The fee is the same as phone setup ($107 for non-direct debit), but it's completely paper-based if you're concerned about both online privacy AND phone wait times. The downside is that it can take 30+ days to process, so if your payment deadline is coming up soon, you might want to make at least a partial payment while waiting for approval to reduce penalties.
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Fiona Sand
•Do you still need to make payments while waiting for the form to be processed? I'm worried about penalties adding up during that 30-day waiting period.
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Ellie Kim
•Yes, you should continue making payments while waiting for the form to be processed. Any payments you make will reduce the overall balance and therefore reduce the penalties and interest that accrue during the waiting period. The IRS will continue charging penalties and interest until your balance is paid in full, regardless of whether you have a payment plan in place or not. The payment plan just means they won't take collection actions against you as long as you're making your agreed payments.
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Mohammad Khaled
Just a heads up about those third-party payment processors when you make payments on the IRS site - they charge a processing fee that can add up if you're making monthly payments! If you set up your plan by phone but then pay online, consider using IRS Direct Pay instead of the credit/debit options. Direct Pay connects directly to your bank account and has no fees.
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Alina Rosenthal
•Direct Pay is definitely the way to go. I've been making monthly payments and the third-party processing fees were almost 2% each time! That adds up to a significant amount over a multi-year payment plan.
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Jace Caspullo
•Thanks for this tip! I hadn't even thought about the processing fees adding up over time. Saving 2% on each payment would definitely make a difference over the whole payment plan. I'll definitely use Direct Pay if I set this up by phone. Is there a limit to how many times you can use Direct Pay in a year? I've heard some payment systems have restrictions.
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Sean Flanagan
•Direct Pay allows up to two payments per day and has no annual limit, so you should be fine for monthly payment plan payments. The system is pretty straightforward - you just need your bank account info and it processes like an ACH transfer. Just make sure to schedule your payments a few days before your due date since it can take 1-2 business days to process.
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Bethany Groves
•That's really helpful to know about the 2-day processing time. I was planning to set up automatic payments but wasn't sure about the timing. Since I'm going to call the IRS to set up the payment plan anyway, should I ask them about setting up specific due dates that work better with Direct Pay processing times? Or do they typically give you standard dates?
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Amelia Martinez
•You can usually request a specific payment date when setting up your installment agreement over the phone. The IRS is generally flexible about this - common options are the 1st, 15th, or 28th of each month. I'd recommend asking for the 28th since it gives you plenty of buffer time for Direct Pay processing and works regardless of how many days are in the month. When you call, just tell them you want to use Direct Pay for your monthly payments and would prefer a due date that allows for processing time. They'll note this in your agreement.
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Leeann Blackstein
I went through this exact same situation a few months ago and ended up calling the IRS to set up my payment plan specifically to avoid the biometric requirements. Here's what I learned: The phone process was actually pretty straightforward once I got through to someone. The agent was able to set up a non-direct debit installment agreement without me needing to create any online accounts. They just verified my identity using the information from my tax return and Social Security number. One thing to keep in mind - make sure you have all your paperwork ready when you call. They'll ask for your adjusted gross income from your previous year's return, your current year's balance due, and some basic personal information. Having everything organized made the call go much faster. After the phone setup, I've been making my monthly payments through IRS Direct Pay (as others mentioned) with no issues. No account creation needed - just your SSN, payment amount, and bank info each time. The confirmation emails they send are sufficient for record-keeping. The $76 difference in setup fees was worth it for me to avoid the privacy concerns. Plus, the phone agent was able to explain exactly how the payment plan would work and what would happen if I ever needed to modify it later.
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Mia Green
•This is really reassuring to hear from someone who went through the exact same process! I was worried about how prepared I'd need to be for the phone call, but it sounds like as long as I have my tax documents handy it should go smoothly. Did you run into any issues with the Direct Pay system when making your monthly payments? I'm wondering if there are any quirks or things to watch out for when using it regularly for installment payments. Also, when you say the confirmation emails are sufficient for record-keeping, do you mean the IRS accepts those as proof of payment if there are ever any disputes?
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Sophia Clark
•Direct Pay has been pretty reliable for me over the past 6 months. The only quirk I've noticed is that it sometimes takes the full 2 business days to process, especially if you submit on a Thursday or Friday. I always schedule my payments at least 3 days before the due date just to be safe. As for the confirmation emails - yes, the IRS accepts them as proof of payment. Each email includes a confirmation number and shows the payment date, amount, and which tax period it was applied to. I keep screenshots of these just in case, but I've never had any disputes. The payments show up on my IRS account transcript within a few days too, so there's always that backup record. One tip: if you ever need to make an extra payment or change your payment amount, you can still use Direct Pay for that too. It doesn't interfere with your installment agreement as long as you're meeting your minimum monthly payment requirement.
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Sean Doyle
I've been dealing with IRS payment plans for years and can confirm that calling them is definitely still a viable option, especially if you're uncomfortable with the biometric requirements. The online system's ID.me verification has been a real barrier for many taxpayers who value their privacy. When you call the IRS at 1-800-829-1040, have your Social Security number, current year tax return, and the notice you received ready. The agent will verify your identity using information from your tax records rather than biometric data. They can set up your installment agreement right over the phone. You're correct that you can make payments without an account through their Direct Pay system - it's essentially the same third-party processor system you used before, just rebranded. No registration required, just your SSN and bank details for each payment. The main trade-offs are: phone setup costs $107 vs $31 online for non-direct debit plans, but you avoid the privacy concerns. Also, wait times can be brutal, so consider calling early in the morning or using one of those callback services others mentioned if you don't want to sit on hold for hours. Bottom line: your privacy concerns are valid, the phone option still exists, and plenty of people successfully manage their payment plans this way without ever creating an online account.
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StarSeeker
•This is exactly the kind of comprehensive overview I was hoping to find! Thank you for breaking down all the key points. The $76 fee difference really isn't that significant when you consider the privacy trade-off, especially for someone like me who's already uncomfortable with biometric data collection. I'm curious about one thing though - you mentioned that wait times can be brutal when calling the IRS. Do you have any recommendations for the best times to call to minimize hold time? I've heard conflicting advice about whether early morning or late afternoon is better, and I'd rather not spend my entire day on hold if I can help it. Also, once the payment plan is set up over the phone, is there any way to check the status or get updates without creating an online account? I know you can call back, but I'm wondering if there are other options that don't require going through the whole phone queue again.
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Yara Nassar
•In my experience, Tuesday through Thursday mornings between 7-8 AM (in your time zone) tend to have the shortest wait times. Mondays are terrible because of weekend backup, and Fridays can be hit-or-miss. Avoid calling during tax season (January-April) if at all possible, but I know that's not always an option when you have a balance due. For checking status without an online account, you have a few options: you can call the automated phone line at 1-800-829-0922 and use the automated system to check your account balance and payment history - no human interaction needed. You can also request account transcripts by mail using Form 4506-T, though that takes 2-3 weeks to receive. The IRS will also mail you annual statements showing your payment history and remaining balance, so you'll get regular updates without having to actively check anything. If you ever need immediate status updates and can't get through on the phone, many local IRS Taxpayer Assistance Centers can help in person, though you'll need to make an appointment first.
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Zara Ahmed
I totally understand your privacy concerns about the biometric data - that's exactly why I ended up going the phone route when I had to set up my payment plan last year. The whole ID.me facial recognition thing felt way too invasive for something as basic as paying taxes. Here's what worked for me: I called the IRS early on a Tuesday morning (around 7:30 AM) and got through in about 45 minutes, which honestly wasn't too bad compared to some horror stories I'd heard. The agent was actually really helpful and walked me through the whole process without any pressure to create an online account. The key things that made it smooth: I had my Social Security number, last year's AGI, and the current balance due amount ready before calling. The agent verified my identity just using that info - no biometric nonsense required. For the $76 extra fee ($107 vs $31), I figured it was worth it for peace of mind. And like others mentioned, you can absolutely make your monthly payments through Direct Pay without any account - I've been doing it for over a year now with zero issues. One tip: when you call, specifically tell them you want to avoid creating any online accounts and prefer to handle everything by phone and mail. They're used to this request and will note it in your file so future agents know your preference. The whole "non-direct debit" setup means you'll get payment coupons in the mail, but honestly Direct Pay is way more convenient than mailing checks anyway.
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