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How do I report selling scrap gold without receiving a 1099-B or brokerage statement?

So I've been hitting up estate sales for the past several months, digging through old jewelry boxes and finding gold pieces. I've been taking these finds to my local coin shop where they buy the scrap gold for cash. The thing is, they don't keep any records or give me any paperwork for these transactions. Now I'm doing my taxes with FreeTaxUsa and I'm stuck at this point where it's asking for a "summary statement of investment sales" - specifically saying I can use a Form 1099-B or brokerage statement for "SCRAP: Short-term (Box B)". I'm totally confused because I didn't get a 1099-B and didn't use any brokerage. These were just cash transactions - I paid cash for jewelry at estate sales, walked to the coin shop, sold it as scrap for cash, and walked out. I honestly didn't track individual transactions because it didn't occur to me I'd need to. All I really know is roughly how much I spent total and what I made over the year. My profit was under $1,200 after splitting with the person I was working with at the time. What am I supposed to do here? Do I need to create some kind of statement myself? This is the first time I've done anything like this and I'm worried about getting it wrong.

You'll need to create your own record since you don't have formal documentation. The IRS requires you to report all income, including from scrap gold sales. Create a simple statement with the following: total amount you received for the gold, your cost basis (what you paid for the jewelry plus any expenses directly related to acquiring it), and the resulting profit. Label it as "Scrap Gold Sales Summary" with the tax year. Since your profit is under the $1,200 you mentioned, it's considered a capital gain. In FreeTaxUSA, you can enter this information manually in the Capital Gains section. When it asks for a 1099-B, select that you didn't receive one and enter your information as a summary.

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Thanks for the quick reply! So I just create my own statement with those details and then enter it manually in FreeTaxUSA? Would I need to include dates for all the transactions? Because honestly I don't remember exactly when I bought or sold each piece.

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You should include approximate dates if possible. If you don't have exact dates, use your best estimates - perhaps by month or quarter. The key information is the total purchase price (your basis) and the total sale amount within the tax year. For multiple undocumented transactions, you can group them together as "Various Dates" if absolutely necessary, but it's better to provide date ranges if you can. The most important thing is accurately reporting the financial totals - what you spent and what you earned.

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Does this actually work with cash transactions though? I do similar stuff with estate sale finds and never get any paperwork. Would the AI be able to figure anything out if I don't have digital records?

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For scrap gold sales specifically, you should report it on Schedule D as a capital asset. Since you held it for investment purposes (buying low, selling high), that's the appropriate place. Make sure to classify it as a "collectible" which has a different tax rate than regular capital gains. Gold is taxed at a maximum of 28% rather than the normal capital gains rates. Even though your profit is small, the classification matters for accuracy.

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Thanks for mentioning the collectible aspect! I had no idea gold would be taxed differently. Does FreeTaxUSA automatically handle that classification if I enter it as scrap gold, or do I need to specifically mark it somewhere as a collectible?

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FreeTaxUSA will handle the collectible classification correctly if you identify the asset type properly. When entering your capital gain, there should be a dropdown or option to select "collectible" as the asset type. The software will then automatically apply the correct tax rate. Just make sure you don't mistakenly classify it as ordinary income or a regular capital asset. The distinction is important because collectibles like gold, even as scrap, are subject to that different tax treatment regardless of how long you held them.

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Quick tip from someone who's been buying/selling gold for years: start keeping a simple log NOW for next year. Just a notebook with columns for: - Date purchased - What you bought - Purchase price - Date sold - Sale price - Profit/loss Would have saved me so much headache when I first started. For this year, estimate as best you can and create that summary sheet others mentioned. IRS mainly wants to see you're making a good faith effort to report accurately.

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This is great advice! Would you recommend also keeping the actual receipts from estate sales or is the log enough? Some estate sales give handwritten receipts that fade over time.

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Definitely keep the receipts when you can get them! I scan or photograph any receipts I get from estate sales, even the handwritten ones. For those faded receipts, taking a photo with your phone right when you get them works great - the camera usually picks up details better than a photocopy. For estate sales that don't give receipts, I write the details in my log immediately while I'm still at the sale. Include the address of the sale if possible - it helps establish the transaction if you ever need to prove your cost basis. I also keep photos of the jewelry pieces I buy before I take them to get melted down, just in case. The combination of log + receipts/photos gives you solid documentation that the IRS will accept. Much better than trying to recreate everything from memory like you're doing now!

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I've been in a similar situation with precious metals transactions! One thing that helped me was checking if my bank statements showed any patterns that could help reconstruct the timeline. Even though you dealt in cash, if you deposited the proceeds or withdrew cash for purchases, those bank records can help establish approximate dates and amounts. Also, don't stress too much about having perfect records for this year - the IRS understands that casual sellers often don't have formal documentation. The key is showing good faith effort to report accurately. Create that summary statement with your best estimates of total costs and sales, and definitely implement a better record-keeping system going forward. For FreeTaxUSA, when you get to the investment sales section, look for an option that says something like "Enter sales not reported on Form 1099-B" or "Add transaction manually." You'll enter your scrap gold as a single summary transaction with your total cost basis and total proceeds.

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This is really helpful advice about checking bank statements! I actually do remember making some larger cash deposits after my better selling days, so that might help me piece together at least some of the timeline. I didn't think about using those patterns to reconstruct the dates. The part about FreeTaxUSA having an option for "Enter sales not reported on Form 1099-B" is exactly what I was looking for. I kept getting stuck because I was trying to find where to upload a 1099-B that I don't have. Knowing there's a manual entry option makes this so much less stressful. Thanks for the reassurance about good faith effort too - I was worried I'd get in trouble for not having perfect records, but it sounds like the IRS understands that small-scale sellers like me don't always have formal documentation systems in place.

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I'm dealing with something very similar right now! I've been buying vintage jewelry at garage sales and selling the gold content to my local coin dealer. Like you, I didn't get any formal paperwork and mostly dealt in cash. What I ended up doing was creating a simple spreadsheet with my best estimates of what I spent versus what I earned throughout the year. I called it "Scrap Gold Sales Summary 2024" and included columns for approximate purchase costs, sale amounts, and net profit. The key thing I learned is that you don't need perfect documentation - the IRS just wants to see that you're making a reasonable effort to report your income accurately. Since your profit was under $1,200, you're dealing with relatively small amounts that won't trigger major scrutiny as long as you report something reasonable. For FreeTaxUSA, look for the section where it asks about capital gains and losses. There should be an option to manually enter transactions that weren't reported on a 1099-B. That's where you'll input your scrap gold summary as a single transaction with your total cost basis and total proceeds. Don't stress too much about this year - just do your best with the information you have and definitely start keeping better records going forward!

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This is exactly the situation I'm in! It's so reassuring to hear from someone else doing the same thing. I was starting to panic thinking I was the only one without proper paperwork. Your spreadsheet idea sounds perfect - simple but shows I'm trying to be accurate. I really appreciate the specific guidance about looking for the capital gains section in FreeTaxUSA and the manual entry option. I kept getting stuck at that 1099-B requirement screen and didn't realize there would be a way around it. One quick question - when you created your summary, did you try to break it down by individual transactions or just do one big summary line? I'm wondering if I should attempt to estimate individual purchases/sales or if a single summary entry is sufficient for the IRS.

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For the IRS, a single summary entry is totally sufficient when you have multiple small cash transactions like this. I did one summary line with my total cost basis (everything I spent on jewelry purchases) and total proceeds (everything I received from the coin dealer). The IRS doesn't expect individual transaction breakdowns for casual sellers dealing in cash - they actually prefer clean summaries over dozens of estimated entries that might not be accurate anyway. Just make sure your summary includes the total amounts and label it clearly as "Scrap Gold Sales Summary" with the tax year. Keep it simple and don't overthink it! The important thing is reporting the income, not having perfect transaction-level detail for small-scale operations like ours.

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I'm a tax preparer and see this situation frequently with people who buy and sell at estate sales, flea markets, etc. You're absolutely on the right track with creating your own summary statement. Here's what you need to include in your "Scrap Gold Sales Summary 2024": - Total amount spent purchasing jewelry at estate sales (your cost basis) - Total amount received from selling to the coin shop - Net profit/loss - Statement that these were cash transactions without formal documentation In FreeTaxUSA, go to the Federal section, then Income, then "Less Common Income" and look for "Capital Gains and Losses." When it asks about Form 1099-B, select "I need to enter sales that are not on a 1099-B." You can then manually enter your summary as a single transaction. Since gold is considered a collectible, make sure to select that option when prompted about the type of asset - this ensures proper tax treatment (max 28% rate vs regular capital gains rates). The IRS is reasonable about casual sellers who deal in cash. Your good faith effort to estimate and report the income is what matters most. Just implement better record-keeping going forward!

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This is incredibly helpful - thank you for the professional perspective! I was getting overwhelmed by all the different advice, but having a tax preparer break down the exact steps makes me feel much more confident about handling this correctly. The specific path you mentioned in FreeTaxUSA ("Less Common Income" then "Capital Gains and Losses") is exactly what I needed. I kept getting lost in the interface trying to find where to enter transactions without a 1099-B. I had no idea about the collectible classification and the 28% rate difference - that's definitely something I would have missed on my own. It sounds like FreeTaxUSA should handle that automatically once I select the right asset type, which is reassuring. Your point about the IRS being reasonable with casual sellers really helps with my anxiety about this whole situation. I was worried that not having perfect documentation would be a huge problem, but it sounds like my good faith effort to report accurately is what really counts. I'm definitely implementing a proper record-keeping system starting now - this experience has taught me the importance of documentation even for what seemed like simple cash transactions at the time!

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As someone who's been through a similar situation with scrap metal and electronics sales, I can tell you that creating your own summary statement is definitely the way to go. The IRS completely understands that small-scale cash transactions don't always come with formal paperwork. I'd recommend creating a simple document titled "Scrap Gold Sales Summary - Tax Year 2024" that includes: - Total estimated amount spent on jewelry purchases at estate sales - Total amount received from coin shop sales - Your net profit (which you mentioned was under $1,200) - A note explaining these were cash transactions without formal documentation The key thing is being consistent with your estimates and showing good faith effort. Since you mentioned splitting profits with someone, make sure you're only reporting your portion of the income. For future reference, I started using a simple phone app to track my buying/selling activities right after transactions. Even just a quick photo of items purchased with a note about cost has saved me tons of headaches come tax time. But for this year, your summary approach should work perfectly fine with the IRS.

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This is really practical advice! The phone app idea for future tracking is brilliant - I never thought about just taking quick photos right after purchases. That would solve so many of the documentation issues I'm dealing with now. Your point about being consistent with estimates really resonates with me. I think I was getting too caught up in trying to remember exact amounts when what matters more is having reasonable, consistent numbers that reflect my actual activity. The reminder about only reporting my portion since I was splitting profits is crucial - I almost forgot about that detail! Since I mentioned my profit was under $1,200 after splitting, I need to make sure that's clear in my summary statement. Thanks for the reassurance about the IRS understanding cash transactions. Between your advice and the tax preparer's guidance above, I'm feeling much more confident about creating that summary statement and moving forward with my taxes.

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I've been in a very similar situation with estate sale finds! Based on all the great advice here, I want to emphasize that you really don't need to stress about this. The IRS gets that casual sellers like us often deal in cash without formal paperwork. Here's what worked for me when I had the same issue: I created a simple one-page document called "Estate Sale Gold Sales Summary - 2024" with just the basics - total spent on purchases (my cost basis), total received from sales, and net profit. I added a note that these were cash transactions without receipts. The most important thing everyone's mentioned is using the manual entry option in FreeTaxUSA. When you get to the capital gains section and it asks about 1099-B forms, look for "Enter transactions not reported on 1099-B" or similar wording. That's your gateway to entering everything as one summary transaction. Don't forget the collectible classification for the gold - it affects your tax rate. And since you mentioned splitting profits, make sure you're only reporting your share of the income. You're being way more thorough than most people in your situation would be, so give yourself credit for that! The IRS values good faith effort over perfect documentation, especially for small amounts like yours.

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Thank you so much for this reassuring perspective! As someone just starting to navigate this whole tax situation with my gold sales, it's incredibly helpful to hear from people who have actually been through the same process. Your template idea for the summary document is perfect - "Estate Sale Gold Sales Summary - 2024" with just the essential information sounds much more manageable than trying to recreate every individual transaction. I was definitely overthinking it and getting overwhelmed by trying to remember too many details. The reminder about only reporting my share of the profits is so important - I keep almost forgetting that detail since I was focused on the total amounts. Since we split everything, I need to make sure my summary reflects only my portion of both the costs and the income. I really appreciate everyone's guidance about the manual entry process in FreeTaxUSA. Knowing there's a specific pathway for transactions without 1099-B forms takes away so much of my anxiety about this whole situation. Between the professional tax preparer's step-by-step instructions and all these real-world experiences, I finally feel confident about moving forward with my taxes instead of just staring at that screen in confusion!

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I've been following this thread as someone who deals with similar tax situations for small business clients. Just wanted to add a few practical points that might help: 1. For your summary statement, include a brief explanation of your business activity - something like "Purchased jewelry at estate sales for scrap gold content, sold to local coin dealer for cash." This context helps the IRS understand the nature of your transactions. 2. Since you mentioned your profit was under $1,200 after splitting, you're dealing with a relatively small amount that's unlikely to trigger additional scrutiny. The IRS is primarily concerned that you're reporting the income, not that you have bank-level documentation. 3. One thing I tell clients: if you have any photos of the jewelry pieces you bought or any text messages about sales, keep those as backup documentation. Even informal records can support your estimates if questions ever arise. 4. Going forward, consider opening a separate checking account for your estate sale activities. Even if you're dealing in cash, depositing proceeds and tracking expenses through a dedicated account creates an automatic paper trail. The consensus here is spot-on - create your summary, use the manual entry option in FreeTaxUSA, classify it as collectibles, and don't stress about perfect precision. You're being more diligent than most people in similar situations!

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This is excellent additional guidance! The point about including a brief explanation of the business activity in my summary statement is something I hadn't thought of - "Purchased jewelry at estate sales for scrap gold content, sold to local coin dealer for cash" perfectly captures what I was doing without getting too wordy. Your reminder about keeping any informal documentation like photos or text messages is really smart. I actually do have some photos on my phone of particularly interesting pieces I found, and a few text exchanges with my partner about good finds. I didn't realize those could serve as backup support for my estimates. The separate checking account idea for next year is brilliant! Even though I'm dealing primarily in cash, having a dedicated account for deposits and any related expenses would create exactly the kind of paper trail that would make taxes so much easier. I'm definitely setting that up before I start my next round of estate sale hunting. Thank you for the professional perspective and the reassurance about the small amount not likely triggering scrutiny. Between all the advice in this thread, I feel like I have a solid plan now - create the summary with context, use the manual entry option, classify as collectibles, and implement better systems going forward. This community has been incredibly helpful!

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I've been doing estate sale jewelry hunting for about three years now, and I went through this exact same confusion my first tax season! Here's what I wish someone had told me from the start: The IRS actually has guidance specifically for "casual sellers" like us who deal in collectibles and precious metals without formal brokerage relationships. You're absolutely doing the right thing by trying to report this income - many people in our situation just ignore it completely, which is definitely not the way to go. For your immediate situation, create a simple summary document titled something like "Scrap Gold Sales Activity - 2024" that includes: - Brief description of activity (buying jewelry at estate sales, selling gold content for scrap) - Your total estimated costs (what you paid for jewelry plus any direct expenses) - Your total proceeds from the coin shop - Your net profit (your portion after splitting) - Note that transactions were conducted in cash without formal documentation The beauty of FreeTaxUSA is that it's designed for exactly these situations. When you hit that investment sales section, look for "Enter sales not on Form 1099-B" - that's your gateway to manual entry. Enter your entire year's activity as one summary transaction. One tip that saved me: if you have any old calendar entries, photos, or even social media posts about your estate sale visits, those can help you estimate timeframes and validate your activity level. I found I had way more documentation than I initially thought once I started looking through my phone and calendar. Don't let this discourage you from continuing this hobby/side income - just implement a simple tracking system going forward. I use a small notebook that stays in my car, and I jot down purchases immediately after each estate sale. Makes tax time infinitely easier!

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This is incredibly comprehensive advice - thank you so much for taking the time to share your experience! As someone who's been doing this for three years, your perspective is exactly what I needed to hear. It's so reassuring to know that others have navigated this successfully and that the IRS actually has guidance for "casual sellers" like us. Your template for the summary document is perfect, and I love that you included the note about transactions being conducted in cash without formal documentation. That addresses my biggest worry about not having "official" paperwork. The tip about looking through old calendar entries and social media posts is brilliant! I actually do post pictures sometimes when I find really cool vintage pieces, and I bet I have some calendar entries about estate sales I planned to hit. I never thought about using those as supporting documentation for my activity level and timeframes. Your point about implementing a simple tracking system going forward really hits home. The notebook in the car idea is so practical - I can jot down purchases right there in the driveway before I even leave the estate sale. That would eliminate all the guesswork I'm dealing with now. Thanks for the encouragement about not letting this tax complexity discourage me from continuing this hobby. I was actually starting to wonder if it was worth the hassle, but with proper systems in place, it sounds totally manageable. Your success over three years gives me confidence that I can make this work long-term too!

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