Form 2441 Problem: Babysitter refusing to provide SSN for Child Care Expense deduction
I'm in a bit of a tax mess regarding Form 2441 for Child Care Expenses. Last year I paid my neighbor about $3,100 to watch my twins while I was working from home. I have documentation through Zelle showing all the payments. When I input these expenses into my tax software, my refund jumps up by like $650. Here's the problem - I need her social security number to claim the Child and Dependent Care Credit on Form 2441, but she's completely ghosting me. I've texted her multiple times asking for her SSN and she's read the messages but won't respond. I'm wondering if I'm being unreasonable here? Should I have told her upfront that I'd need her SSN for tax purposes? She was watching 4-5 other kids at the same time as mine, so I'm guessing she doesn't want to report the income. I've heard I might be able to still file by completing the other parts of Form 2441 (her name and address) and attaching a statement explaining she refused to provide her SSN. Has anyone done this before? Will the IRS accept my claim for the credit or will they just reject it outright? Really need this credit so any advice would be appreciated!
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NebulaKnight
You're definitely not being unreasonable! When someone provides childcare services, providing their SSN (or EIN if they have a business) is standard for tax purposes. This is because you're claiming a tax credit, and the IRS wants to ensure the provider is reporting that income. If she won't provide her SSN, you do have an option. You can still claim the credit by completing Form 2441 with all the information you have (her name and address) and attach a statement explaining that you requested the SSN multiple times but the provider refused to give it to you. According to IRS guidelines, you've made a "reasonable effort" to obtain the information. The IRS may follow up with you and possibly with her. They might accept your claim if they believe you made reasonable efforts, but there's also a chance they'll deny it. Either way, you've done nothing wrong by asking for her SSN - that's actually what you're supposed to do.
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Sofia Ramirez
•Thanks for this info! Quick question - if the IRS does follow up, will they just deny the credit or could there be penalties for the person filing? Also, what counts as "reasonable effort" besides text messages? Should I be sending a certified letter or something?
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NebulaKnight
•You generally won't face penalties if you've been honest about your situation and made genuine attempts to get the information. The worst outcome is typically that they'll deny the credit. As for what constitutes "reasonable effort," text messages are good but having more documentation is better. I'd recommend sending a formal written request (email or letter) that specifically mentions it's for Form 2441 tax purposes. Save copies of all communication attempts. A certified letter isn't required but would certainly strengthen your case that you made serious efforts.
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Dmitry Popov
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Ava Rodriguez
•Did they give you any pushback when you filed? I'm in a similar situation but worried about getting audited. How detailed was the statement you had to provide?
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Miguel Ortiz
•I'm a bit skeptical about using a third-party service for something like this. Couldn't you just write the statement yourself? Why trust some website with all your tax info and messages?
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Dmitry Popov
•I didn't get any pushback at all when I filed. The statement was pretty detailed - it included dates I requested the SSN, how I requested it (texts, emails), and even cited the specific IRS rules about making a "reasonable effort" to obtain the information. I think the thoroughness is what helped it get approved without questions. As for writing it myself, sure that's always an option. But I had no idea what needed to be included or how to format it properly. The service actually showed me what specific IRS sections to reference and how to word everything correctly. For me, the peace of mind was worth it since I was worried about making a mistake that would cost me the $700+ credit.
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Miguel Ortiz
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Zainab Khalil
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QuantumQuest
•How does this actually work? I've spent literal days trying to get through to the IRS on my own. Are you saying this service somehow gets you to the front of the line or something?
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Connor Murphy
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Zainab Khalil
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Connor Murphy
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Yara Haddad
My sister is an accountant and she says that technically the babysitter is required to provide either an SSN or an EIN if she's operating a business. If she's refusing, it's probably because she's not reporting that income on her taxes. My sister said the IRS doesn't look kindly on that. You definitely should claim what you're legally entitled to. Document EVERYTHING. Save those text messages showing you asked. Send one more message clearly stating it's for your tax filing purposes on Form 2441. Take screenshots. And next time, definitely get this sorted out beforehand with any childcare provider. My sister says to literally put it in writing before you start using any childcare service that you'll need their tax ID for claiming the Child and Dependent Care Credit.
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Dylan Wright
•Thanks, this is super helpful. Do you know if it matters that she was watching multiple kids at once? I'm trying to figure out if I should include that detail in my explanation to the IRS or if that just complicates things.
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Yara Haddad
•The fact that she was watching multiple kids actually strengthens your case. It shows she was running what amounts to an informal daycare business, which means she definitely should be providing her tax information and reporting that income. I would absolutely include that detail in your explanation to the IRS. It demonstrates that this wasn't just a casual babysitting arrangement but an ongoing childcare service she was providing to multiple families. This makes her refusal to provide her SSN even more questionable from the IRS perspective.
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Keisha Robinson
The babysitter is 100% trying to avoid paying taxes. I used to babysit and nanny through college and definitely didn't report anything because it was all cash. BUT if someone had asked for my SSN for their taxes, I would've given it because that's fair - they're entitled to their credit. Just make sure you have her LEGAL first and last name and correct address. The IRS will almost certainly follow up with her, not you. When I filed with a missing provider tax ID, I got my full credit and never heard anything about it. My guess is they went after the provider instead.
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Paolo Conti
•Did you use a specific formula when you wrote your explanation statement? I'm trying to draft mine now and not sure how formal it needs to be.
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Mateo Gonzalez
I went through this exact situation two years ago with my daycare provider. Here's what worked for me: 1. Send one final formal request via text AND email (if you have it) specifically stating: "I need your SSN or EIN to complete Form 2441 for the Child and Dependent Care Credit on my tax return. This is required by the IRS for the $3,100 I paid you for childcare services in 2024." 2. When she doesn't respond, file your return anyway. Complete Form 2441 with her full legal name and address, leave the SSN field blank, and attach a statement explaining your reasonable efforts to obtain the information. 3. Your statement should include: dates you requested the SSN, method of contact (texts/calls), copies of your payment records (Zelle transactions), and mention that she provides childcare services to multiple families. The IRS accepted my claim without any issues. They likely flagged her for not reporting the income rather than penalizing me for missing information I genuinely tried to obtain. You've done nothing wrong by claiming a legitimate tax credit you're entitled to. Don't let her tax evasion cost you $650!
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Mason Davis
•This is really solid advice! I'm dealing with a similar situation right now where my nanny won't provide her SSN. Quick question - when you say "full legal name," how do you verify that? I only know her by the name she gave me but I'm not sure if it's her actual legal name or a nickname. Should I be concerned about getting that wrong on Form 2441?
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