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Caleb Stone

Has anyone filed Form 2441 with a caregiver refusing to provide SSN? Will this delay my refund?

So I'm trying to finish up my taxes and claim the Child and Dependent Care Credit using Form 2441. The problem is that my daughter's babysitter is refusing to give me her Social Security number. She watches my 3-year-old three days a week while I work, and I paid her about $6,300 last year in cash. I've explained that I need her SSN to claim the credit on my taxes, but she's being really difficult about it. Says she "doesn't give that information out" and got all weird when I mentioned it's for tax purposes. I'm worried that if I submit Form 2441 without her SSN, my entire refund will get flagged and delayed. I'm counting on that money coming back quickly! Has anyone dealt with this before? Did the IRS hold up your entire refund or just that portion of it? I'm tempted to just make up a number but I know that's probably illegal and would cause more problems.

Daniel Price

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This is actually a common issue with childcare providers who may be working under the table. You have a few options here: First, try explaining to your babysitter that she's legally required to provide her SSN or EIN if she's providing childcare services for which you're claiming the credit. Maybe show her the form or IRS guidelines to make it more official. Sometimes providers don't understand this is a legitimate requirement. If she still refuses, you can file Form W-10 (Dependent Care Provider's Identification and Certification) and give it to her. This makes the request more formal. Keep a copy showing you attempted to get the information. If all else fails, you can still claim the credit without her SSN by completing Form 2441 as usual, but write "REFUSED" in the space for the caregiver's SSN. The IRS understands this happens, but be prepared - this will likely trigger a manual review of your return and could delay your refund by several weeks or more. Don't make up a number! That's definitely fraud and will cause much bigger problems down the road.

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Caleb Stone

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Thanks for this info! I had no idea I could write "REFUSED" on the form. Do you know roughly how long my refund might be delayed? I'm planning on using it to pay for some car repairs. Also, will this create any issues for me being audited in the future? I definitely have proof I paid her (text messages, calendar entries, etc), but no formal receipts since it was all cash.

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Daniel Price

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The delay could be anywhere from 2-8 weeks beyond normal processing times, as your return will require manual review. It's hard to give exact timeframes since IRS processing times vary each year depending on their backlog. This won't necessarily increase your audit risk for future years, but you should keep good records for this tax year. Those text messages and calendar entries are helpful, but also try to document cash withdrawals that align with payment dates. If possible, start paying electronically or get signed receipts going forward. The IRS is primarily concerned with verifying the expenses are legitimate, not punishing you for a caregiver who refuses to provide information.

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Olivia Evans

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Zoey Bianchi

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Zoey Bianchi

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Grace Johnson

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I've been doing taxes for family members for years and run into this issue quite often. Here's what I've learned: If you're paying someone regularly for childcare, it's worth having a simple contract from the beginning that states they'll provide their tax information. Makes things much clearer. For your current situation, using "REFUSED" is the proper approach, but there's another angle to consider. Your caregiver might be worried about reporting income. You could offer to pay a slightly higher rate to help cover their self-employment taxes if that's their concern. Sometimes it's just about having that conversation. Also, starting in 2026, the IRS is planning stricter enforcement around the Child and Dependent Care Credit documentation, so this issue will only get more important in the future.

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Jayden Reed

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Is there a dollar threshold for when Form 2441 is required? Like if I only paid my sitter $1000 for the year, do I still need to file it to get the credit? My sitter is a college student who definitely doesn't want to report the income.

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Grace Johnson

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There's no minimum threshold for Form 2441 - if you want to claim the Child and Dependent Care Credit, you need to file the form regardless of the amount paid. However, there are income limits that determine how much credit you can receive. For your college student situation, understand that you're putting them in a difficult position. By claiming the credit, you're essentially reporting their income to the IRS, which means they should be reporting it too. This is why many occasional babysitters prefer clients who don't claim the credit. You might consider whether the credit amount is worth potentially creating a tax issue for your sitter, especially for a relatively small amount like $1,000.

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Nora Brooks

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This whole thing just shows how broken our tax system is. Why should regular people have to jump through all these hoops just to claim a legitimate credit? The government wants people to work but makes childcare expenses complicated to claim. And then we have to chase down sitters and babysitters for their personal info which makes everyone uncomfortable. I had the same issue with my mom's caregiver. Ended up writing "REFUSED" and my refund was delayed by 2 months! That's ridiculous. The IRS should have a better system for this by now.

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Eli Wang

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I feel this in my soul. I had a similar issue but with multiple caregivers throughout the year (one quit, one moved, etc). Trying to track them all down for tax info was a nightmare. One of them had moved out of state and completely ghosted me when I mentioned taxes. My refund got held up for almost 3 months! I finally got a letter asking for additional documentation, sent everything in, and then waited another month. The system definitely penalizes honest people trying to do things correctly.

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Ethan Moore

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I'm dealing with this exact situation right now! My daycare provider gave me her business name but refuses to provide her EIN, saying she "handles her own taxes." I've been going back and forth with her for weeks. What's frustrating is that I'm trying to do everything by the book, but these providers make it so difficult. I understand they might be concerned about tax implications on their end, but legally they're supposed to provide this information if we're claiming the credit. Has anyone had success explaining to their caregiver that providing the SSN/EIN doesn't automatically mean the IRS will audit them or cause problems? I'm wondering if there's a way to reassure her that this is just standard tax documentation. I really don't want to lose a good daycare provider over this, but I also don't want to miss out on a significant tax credit that I'm entitled to claim.

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I totally understand your frustration! I went through something similar with my daughter's daycare provider last year. What helped me was explaining that providing the EIN is actually required by law - it's not optional. I showed her IRS Publication 503 which clearly states that care providers must furnish their taxpayer identification number to parents claiming the credit. I also reassured her that simply providing her EIN doesn't trigger an audit or create any issues for her business - it's just basic tax documentation, like how any business provides their EIN on invoices or contracts. The IRS already knows about her business through her own tax filings, so this doesn't put any additional spotlight on her. If she still refuses, definitely use the "REFUSED" option on Form 2441. Keep records of your attempts to get the information (emails, texts, etc.) in case the IRS asks. And honestly, a daycare provider who won't provide basic tax documentation might not be the most professional choice long-term anyway. There are plenty of providers who understand this is part of running a legitimate childcare business.

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I went through this exact situation two years ago with my son's after-school sitter. She was adamant about not providing her SSN, and I was really stressed about potentially losing my refund. Here's what I learned: You absolutely can write "REFUSED" in the SSN field on Form 2441, and the IRS does understand this happens frequently. However, be prepared for your refund to be delayed - mine took about 6 weeks longer than usual to process because it triggered a manual review. The key thing is documentation. Keep everything - text messages about payments, your bank records showing cash withdrawals, calendar entries showing care dates, anything that proves you actually paid for legitimate childcare services. I also wrote a brief letter explaining the situation and attached it to my return, though I'm not sure if that helped or not. One thing that might work with your babysitter: explain that you're not reporting her to anyone or getting her in trouble. The IRS just needs to match up your claimed expenses with a real person/business. Maybe offer to show her the actual form so she can see it's just basic information, not some kind of investigation. But honestly? If she's being this difficult about basic tax requirements, you might want to start looking for a new childcare arrangement for next year. Most legitimate providers understand this is part of the deal when parents claim the credit.

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Cass Green

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This is really helpful advice, thank you! The documentation part makes me feel more confident about proceeding. I've been keeping pretty good records already - bank statements, text messages confirming dates and payments, even photos of my cash withdrawals that correspond to payment dates. I think you're right about having that conversation with her again. Maybe if I approach it more as "this is just standard paperwork" rather than making it sound like a big deal, she might be more cooperative. I could even print out the relevant IRS publication that explains the requirement so she can see it's not something I'm making up. The 6-week delay is definitely not ideal, but honestly it's better than I was expecting based on some horror stories I've heard. As long as I eventually get my refund, I can deal with waiting a bit longer. And you're absolutely right about considering other arrangements for next year. This has been way more stressful than it should be for what's supposed to be basic tax documentation. Thanks for sharing your experience!

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I'm currently dealing with this same issue! My nanny has been watching my two kids for almost a year and I just realized I need her SSN for my taxes. When I brought it up, she got really defensive and said she "doesn't mix personal information with work." Reading through all these responses has been super helpful. I think I'm going to try the approach someone mentioned about showing her the IRS publication that explains it's a legal requirement. Maybe if she sees it's not just me being nosy, she'll be more understanding. The "REFUSED" option is good to know about as a backup plan. I was panicking thinking I'd lose the entire credit if I couldn't get her information. A 6-week delay isn't great but it's better than losing thousands of dollars in tax credits. Has anyone had luck offering to help their caregiver understand the tax implications on their end? Like maybe explaining that they can deduct business expenses or something? I'm wondering if her reluctance is coming from not understanding how to handle the income reporting rather than just being difficult.

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