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Mei Chen

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New member here and dealing with this exact nightmare! Filed my NY return on February 1st and been stuck in that useless "further review" status for about 4 weeks now. Really needed that refund for some urgent home repairs but looks like I'm joining the waiting game with everyone else here. This thread has been incredibly helpful - both reassuring to know it's not just me and sobering to realize how widespread this issue is. Really appreciate @Sean Doyle for actually calling and getting that 10-16 week timeline from them. It's brutal but at least it's realistic expectations instead of that completely unhelpful "further review" message on their website. Definitely going to try calling that 518 number this week even though the hold time sounds miserable. Also considering that taxr.ai tool since everyone keeps mentioning it and honestly anything has to be better than refreshing NY's garbage website every day hoping for updates that never come. Thanks @Lily Young for creating this thread - it's been way more informative than anything NY provides officially! Here's hoping we all start seeing some movement soon šŸ¤ž

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Josef Tearle

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Hey Mei! Welcome to the NY tax refund limbo club šŸ˜ž February 1st filing puts you right in the same boat as a bunch of us newcomers here. Home repairs make this delay so much more stressful - I totally feel you on needing that money for urgent stuff! This thread has been a lifesaver for getting actual info instead of that worthless "further review" message. That 10-16 week timeline @Sean Doyle shared is absolutely brutal but honestly better than being completely in the dark. Definitely worth trying that phone number even if it means camping out on hold for hours. The taxr.ai tool keeps getting mentioned too - for $5 it might be worth it just to get some real answers! We re'all hoping things start moving soon šŸ¤ž

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Zara Malik

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Newcomer here and going through the exact same thing! Filed my NY return on January 18th and it's been stuck in that frustrating "further review" status for about 7 weeks now. Was really counting on that refund to help with student loan payments but clearly I'm in for the long haul like everyone else. This thread has been such a relief - I was starting to think I messed something up on my return but now I see it's just NY being completely dysfunctional this year. Really appreciate @Sean Doyle for actually calling and getting that brutal but honest 10-16 week timeline from them. At least now we know what we're dealing with instead of that completely useless "further review" message that tells us absolutely nothing. Definitely going to try calling that 518 number this week even though 90+ minutes on hold sounds like torture. Also thinking about trying that taxr.ai tool everyone keeps mentioning since literally anything has to be more informative than NY's garbage website. Thanks @Lily Young for starting this thread - it's been way more helpful than any official NY resource! Here's hoping we all start seeing some movement soon because this is getting ridiculous šŸ™„

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As someone who struggled with this exact same W-4 situation when I started my current job, I completely understand the confusion! The redesigned form can be intimidating, but here's what I've learned works well: For your situation (single, no dependents, wanting to break even), start simple: fill out Steps 1 and 5 only for your first W-4 submission. This gives you a baseline using standard withholding tables. Since you have the $600/month delivery gig, you'll definitely want to account for that $7,200 annual income. Here's the key insight I wish someone had told me: that side income will generate roughly $1,100-1,400 in additional taxes (income tax PLUS self-employment tax of about 15.3%). My recommendation: Submit your initial W-4 with just basic info, get your first paycheck, then use the IRS Tax Withholding Estimator with your actual pay stub data. It's free, accurate, and will tell you exactly what to put in Step 4(a) for your delivery income and Step 4(c) for any additional withholding needed. Don't aim for a perfect zero balance - owing $200-400 at tax time is actually ideal because you keep more money in your pocket throughout the year instead of giving the IRS an interest-free loan. You can always adjust your W-4 later as you learn more about your actual withholding patterns. The most important thing is to start rather than getting paralyzed by trying to make it perfect from day one!

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Natalia Stone

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This is such a helpful summary of the whole process! Your point about starting simple with just Steps 1 and 5 really takes the pressure off - I've been stressing about getting every detail perfect before submitting anything. The breakdown of roughly $1,100-1,400 in additional taxes for the $7,200 delivery income is exactly the kind of concrete number I needed to understand the real impact. I really appreciate you emphasizing that owing $200-400 is actually ideal rather than something to worry about. Coming from someone who's been through this exact situation, that reassurance means a lot. The "start rather than get paralyzed" advice is what I needed to hear - I think I've been overthinking this way too much when the smart approach is clearly to begin with basics and refine as I go. One quick question: when you used the IRS estimator with your actual pay stub data, did you find the recommendations were significantly different from what you might have guessed initially? I'm curious how much the real data changed your withholding strategy compared to estimates.

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Yes, the real data made a significant difference! When I initially estimated my withholding, I was way off on both my effective tax rate and how much my employer was actually withholding per paycheck. My initial guess had me thinking I'd need about $50 extra per month in Step 4(c), but the actual pay stub data showed I needed closer to $120 monthly to properly cover the delivery income taxes. The estimator also revealed that my base job withholding was already slightly higher than needed, so I could reduce that while increasing the additional withholding for the side gig. The biggest eye-opener was seeing the actual federal withholding amount on my pay stub versus what I calculated it should be based on tax tables. Employers use different payroll systems and some withhold more conservatively than others. Having that real number made the estimator incredibly accurate - I ended up owing just $240 at tax time, which was perfect! Bottom line: your estimates will get you started, but the real pay stub data is when the magic happens and you can dial in your withholding precisely.

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As someone who recently navigated this same W-4 confusion, I'd suggest starting with the basics and not overthinking it initially. For a single person with no dependents wanting to break even, you can often just complete Steps 1 and 5 (personal info and signature) for your first submission. Since you mentioned the $600/month delivery gig, that's definitely something to account for - that $7,200 annual side income will likely generate around $1,100-1,300 in total taxes (both income tax and the 15.3% self-employment tax). My recommendation: submit a basic W-4 first, then after you get your first paycheck, use the free IRS Tax Withholding Estimator with your actual pay stub data. This will give you precise numbers for Step 4(a) (additional income) and Step 4(c) (extra withholding) if needed. Don't aim for perfect zero - owing $200-300 at tax time is actually ideal since you keep more money throughout the year instead of giving the government an interest-free loan. Remember, you can always submit an updated W-4 to HR if adjustments are needed after seeing how your actual withholding works out. The key is to start rather than getting paralyzed trying to calculate everything perfectly upfront!

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I've been dealing with bond accrued interest issues for years, and the key thing to remember is that this is essentially a timing difference that corrects itself. When you bought the bond in November 2024 and paid $125 in accrued interest, you were compensating the seller for interest that had built up during their ownership period. Think of it this way: that $750 payment you'll receive in March 2025 includes interest for the entire quarter, including the period before you owned the bond. By subtracting the $125 on your 2025 Schedule B, you're only claiming the interest income for the period you actually owned the bond. The IRS wants to see this matching occur in the same tax year because it provides a clearer picture of your actual economic income from the investment. If you deducted the $125 in 2024 but didn't report any offsetting interest income until 2025, it would distort your income across both years. Make sure to keep your purchase confirmation showing the accrued interest breakdown - you'll need this documentation when preparing your 2025 return.

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CyberSamurai

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This is exactly the kind of clear explanation I needed! The way you broke down the economic reality behind the accounting treatment really helps me understand why the timing works this way. I was getting confused thinking about it as just a mechanical rule, but when you explain it as only claiming income for the period I actually owned the bond, it makes perfect sense. Thanks for emphasizing the documentation aspect too - I'll definitely keep that purchase confirmation handy for next year's filing.

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Nia Harris

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This thread has been incredibly helpful! I had a similar situation with municipal bonds last year and made the mistake of deducting the accrued interest in the wrong tax year. The IRS sent me a notice asking for clarification, which led to months of correspondence. What I learned from that experience is that keeping detailed records is absolutely crucial. Beyond just the purchase confirmation, I now also keep a spreadsheet tracking each bond's purchase date, accrued interest paid, and expected interest payment dates. This helps me remember which adjustments to make when preparing returns the following year. For anyone dealing with multiple bond purchases throughout the year, consider setting up a simple tracking system. It's much easier to organize this information as you go rather than trying to reconstruct everything at tax time. The matching principle makes perfect sense once you understand it, but it's easy to forget the details when you're preparing returns months later.

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Zane Gray

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Great advice about the spreadsheet tracking system! I'm just starting to build a bond portfolio and this thread has been a real eye-opener about the complexity of tax reporting. Your point about organizing information as you go is spot on - I can already see how easy it would be to lose track of these details by tax season. One question: when you track the "expected interest payment dates" in your spreadsheet, do you also note which tax year each payment will fall into? I'm thinking this could help flag situations where purchases near year-end might create these cross-year reporting scenarios like the original poster described.

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Ryan Vasquez

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This is exactly the kind of S-corp confusion I had when I first started! The key insight that helped me was realizing that your K-1 is essentially telling two different stories: (1) how much profit the business made that you need to pay tax on, and (2) how much cash you actually took out. The $39,000 on Line 1 (ordinary business income) flows to Schedule E and becomes taxable income on your 1040 - this is unavoidable. The $39,000 on Line 16c (distributions) is just informational tracking and doesn't create additional tax liability since you're already being taxed on the business profit. Think of it this way: your S-corp earned $39k in profit, which increases your "stake" in the company by $39k. Then you took out $39k in cash, which decreases your stake by $39k. Net effect on your ownership basis: zero. Net effect on your taxes: you pay income tax on the $39k profit regardless of whether you left it in the business or took it out. The beauty of S-corps is avoiding double taxation - you're only taxed once on the business income, not again when you distribute those same earnings to yourself!

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StarSailor

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This is such a helpful way to think about it! The "two stories" concept really makes it click. I've been stressing about whether I'm getting double-taxed, but your explanation about the S-corp profit increasing my stake and then the distribution decreasing it by the same amount makes perfect sense. So basically, as long as I'm distributing roughly what the business earns each year, I shouldn't have any surprises come tax time. Thanks for breaking it down so clearly!

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Chloe Taylor

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One thing to watch out for that hasn't been mentioned yet is making sure your $38,000 salary is considered "reasonable compensation" by the IRS. They scrutinize S-corp owner salaries closely because there's an incentive to minimize salary (which is subject to payroll taxes) in favor of distributions (which aren't). With $77,000 in sales and $39,000 in profit after your salary, your 50/50 split between salary and distributions seems reasonable, but it's worth documenting why that salary amount is appropriate for your role and industry. The IRS has been increasing audits on S-corps where owner salaries seem too low relative to the business income. Also, don't forget that your $38,000 salary gets reported on your W-2 and goes on your 1040 as wages (subject to payroll taxes), while the $39,000 business income from the K-1 goes on Schedule E and flows to your 1040 as business income (not subject to self-employment tax). So you'll actually have income from two different sources on your return!

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Mei Wong

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This is a great point about reasonable compensation! I'm just starting my S-corp and wasn't sure how to determine what's "reasonable." Is there a rule of thumb for what percentage should be salary versus distributions, or does it really depend on industry standards? Also, when you mention documenting why the salary is appropriate - what kind of documentation should I be keeping? Job descriptions, industry salary surveys, that sort of thing?

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Chloe Davis

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Super important piece of advice: make sure you submit your 1040-X ASAP. The longer you wait, the more interest will accrue on any additional tax you owe from using the wrong W-2.

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AstroAlpha

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Absolutely right. And don't forget you can e-file a 1040-X now! The IRS started accepting electronic amended returns a few years ago. Way faster than paper filing.

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Leo Simmons

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I went through almost the exact same situation last year! My accountant used an old 1099 by mistake and then basically ghosted me when I tried to get it fixed. Super frustrating when you're paying someone to handle this stuff properly. Here's what I learned: definitely file the 1040-X yourself if your accountant won't help. It's really not as scary as it seems, especially if you have tax software to guide you through it. The key things to remember are to clearly label which W-2 was incorrect, include both versions with your amendment, and write a brief explanation of what happened. Also, since you caught this relatively quickly, you're in a much better position than if the IRS had discovered it first. They tend to be more understanding when you're proactively fixing mistakes. Good luck getting this sorted out!

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QuantumQuest

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This is really reassuring to hear from someone who went through the same thing! I'm definitely leaning toward doing the 1040-X myself at this point. Can I ask - did you end up owing additional taxes when you corrected it, or did it work out in your favor? I'm trying to get a sense of what I might be looking at financially. Also, did you use any specific tax software for the amendment or just fill out the form manually?

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