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Just want to add a data point - I had a similar issue and it turned out I wasn't eligible for APTC for one month due to having access to employer coverage that month (even though I didn't take it). The marketplace still paid APTC to my insurer but left Column B blank. When I called, they told me to use the SLCSP calculator tool to determine the correct amount for Column B, rather than leaving it as zero. Apparently a zero really isn't valid there on the 8962 form.
Did you have to pay back all the APTC for that month since you weren't eligible?
I had this exact same issue last year! Your tax software is correct to flag the $0 in Column B - it's actually not a valid entry on Form 8962 when you've received advance premium tax credits. Here's what's likely happening: The marketplace made an error on your 1095-A. Column B (SLCSP) is essential for calculating your premium tax credit eligibility, and it should never be blank or zero when you received APTC payments (Column C has a value). My recommendation is to use the SLCSP lookup tool on Healthcare.gov to find the correct amount for your zip code, family size, and coverage period for April. You'll need this information: your county, number of people covered, and their ages during that month. The tool will give you the official SLCSP amount that should have been in Column B. Once you have the correct SLCSP amount, enter it on your Form 8962 instead of the $0.01 workaround. This will give you an accurate premium tax credit calculation. You don't necessarily need to wait for a corrected 1095-A if you can verify the correct SLCSP amount yourself using the official tool. Just make sure to keep documentation of where you got the SLCSP figure in case the IRS has questions later.
This is really helpful advice! I'm dealing with a similar situation where my 1095-A has some questionable values. Quick question though - when you say to use the SLCSP lookup tool on Healthcare.gov, do you need to create an account or can you access it without logging in? Also, if the SLCSP amount I find is significantly different from what's on my 1095-A, should I be concerned about using a different number than what the marketplace provided?
I think we're overcomplicating this. The rule is simple - if it's personal, it's not a corporate expense, period. It doesn't matter if you call it non-deductible on M-1, it's still a distribution to the shareholder. The only legitimate non-deductible expenses are things that benefit the corporation but aren't deductible under tax law (life insurance premiums, certain penalties, 50% of meals, political contributions, etc). I tell my clients there are only 3 ways to get money out of a C-corp: 1. Salary for services actually rendered 2. Loans (with proper documentation) 3. Dividends Anything else is just dividends in disguise, and the IRS isn't stupid.
Don't forget reasonable shareholder fringe benefits! Health insurance, disability insurance, retirement plans, and other qualified fringe benefits are legitimate corporate expenses that benefit the shareholder without being dividends.
This is exactly the kind of situation that drives me crazy as a tax professional. You're absolutely right to push back on the previous accountant's approach. The fundamental test isn't whether an expense is deductible - it's whether the expense has ANY legitimate business purpose. Personal expenses like family vacations and tuition have zero business purpose and should never touch the corporate books, even as M-1 adjustments. I've seen too many practitioners use the M-1 approach as a lazy way to avoid difficult conversations with clients. But you're setting up both yourself and the client for problems down the road. The IRS has gotten much more aggressive about constructive dividend audits, especially with closely-held C-corps. My advice: bite the bullet now and clean this up. Reclassify the personal expenses as dividends (or loans if there's proper documentation and repayment ability). Yes, it'll create some additional tax liability, but it's better than dealing with an IRS audit that could go back multiple years with penalties and interest. The client may not like it initially, but they'll thank you when they're not facing a massive IRS bill later.
I completely agree with this approach. I'm relatively new to handling C-corp clients, but I've been reading up on the constructive dividend rules and it seems like the IRS is really cracking down on this area. What's the best way to handle the conversation with a client when you're essentially telling them their previous accountant was wrong and they now owe additional taxes? I'm worried about losing the client, but I also don't want to perpetuate bad practices. Any specific language or approach that works well for these difficult conversations? Also, when you reclassify these as dividends, do you typically need to file amended returns for prior years, or can you just correct the treatment going forward?
This is actually a really common misunderstanding about wash sales. What matters isn't the lot numbers but the timing. Whenever you have a loss sale with a purchase of substantially identical securities within the 61-day window (30 days before/after), you have a potential wash sale. I had this exact situation last year with NVDA stock - sold some at a loss and had other shares purchased within the window. My accountant explained that the way the IRS applies the rule, you look at all purchases of the same security within the window, regardless of lot designation.
Are you sure about this? I thought the wash sale rule only applied up to the number of shares you repurchased. So if you sell 100 shares at a loss and buy back only 50, only half of your loss would be disallowed.
@Alexander Evans You re'absolutely correct! The wash sale rule only applies to the extent of the repurchase. In OP s'case, they sold 140 shares at a loss but only held 60 remaining shares from the same-day purchase. So the wash sale would only apply to 60 shares worth of losses, not the full 140 shares. The loss on 60 shares would be disallowed and added to the basis of the remaining 60 shares, but the loss on the other 80 shares sold should be allowable since there aren t'enough replacement shares to trigger a full wash sale on the entire position. @Ruby Garcia This is an important distinction - the wash sale doesn t apply'to the entire loss amount, just the portion that corresponds to shares you still hold or repurchased within the window.
This is exactly the kind of complex wash sale scenario that trips up so many taxpayers! Based on your description, you're dealing with a partial wash sale situation. Here's what's happening: You sold 140 shares at a loss, but you only have 60 remaining shares from Lot 2 that were purchased within the wash sale window. The wash sale rule will apply, but only to the extent of the shares you still hold - so 60 shares worth of your loss will be disallowed and added to the cost basis of those remaining 60 shares. The math works out like this: - Loss on 60 shares: $1,800 (60 Ć $30) - this gets disallowed and added to basis - Loss on remaining 80 shares: $2,400 (80 Ć $30) - this should be deductible Your remaining 60 shares would have an adjusted basis of $125/share ($75 original + $30 disallowed loss per share). Make sure to double-check your 1099-B when it arrives - brokers sometimes miss these nuanced partial wash sale calculations, especially with same-day transactions. You may need to make adjustments on Form 8949 if your broker doesn't report it correctly. Keep detailed records of your calculation method in case the IRS has questions later!
This breakdown is really helpful! I'm new to trading and had no idea about the partial wash sale concept. So just to clarify - if I understand correctly, the key is matching the number of replacement shares you still hold to determine how much of your loss gets disallowed? Also, when you mention keeping detailed records for the IRS, what specific documentation should we be maintaining? Just the trade confirmations, or is there something else we should be tracking?
I went through this exact situation when my grandmother passed and left behind her specialized medical equipment. Here's what worked for me: The IRS wants to see that you made a reasonable, good-faith effort to determine fair market value. For your $5,300 wheelchair that's 3 years old, I'd suggest this approach: 1. Research completed sales (not just listings) on eBay, Facebook Marketplace, and medical equipment sites. Focus specifically on tilt wheelchairs, not just any wheelchair. 2. Contact 2-3 local medical supply companies and ask what they typically sell used tilt wheelchairs for. Many will give you ballpark figures over the phone. 3. Document everything with screenshots, dates, and notes from your calls. 4. Calculate a reasonable range based on your research. For specialized medical equipment in good condition, 45-55% of original value after 3 years is often reasonable, putting you around $2,385-$2,915. 5. Take detailed photos of the wheelchair before donation, including model numbers and serial numbers. 6. Keep all documentation in a file - you won't submit it with your return, but you'll need it if questioned. Make sure your charity receipt specifically describes it as a "specialized tilt wheelchair" with their tax ID, and don't forget Form 8283 since it's over $500. The key is showing you did your homework to arrive at a defensible value.
This is such a thorough and practical approach! I really appreciate you breaking it down into clear steps. Your suggested value range of $2,385-$2,915 based on 45-55% of original value seems very reasonable and aligns well with what others have mentioned. I hadn't thought about specifically looking for "completed sales" rather than just current listings - that's going to give me much more accurate market data. And the idea of contacting multiple medical supply companies for their perspective is brilliant. Having professional opinions from people who actually deal with these items regularly will definitely strengthen my case. Your point about taking photos of model and serial numbers is especially important - I almost forgot about documenting those specific details. The emphasis on keeping everything organized in a file for potential future questions is also smart preparation. Thanks for the reminder about making sure the charity receipt is specific about it being a "specialized tilt wheelchair" rather than generic wording. All of these details seem small but clearly add up to create a solid, defensible valuation package.
I'm sorry for your loss, Mohamed. Dealing with tax implications while grieving can be especially challenging. Based on your situation, I'd recommend a multi-step approach to establish a defensible fair market value: First, research comparable sales specifically for tilt wheelchairs (not just standard wheelchairs) on eBay's "sold" listings, Facebook Marketplace, and medical equipment resale sites. Document everything with screenshots and dates. Second, contact 2-3 local medical equipment dealers or rental companies and ask about typical resale values for 3-year-old specialized tilt wheelchairs. Many will provide rough estimates over the phone, and this gives you professional industry perspective. For a $5,300 specialized tilt wheelchair in good condition after 3 years, a fair market value between $2,400-$2,900 would likely be reasonable. Specialized medical equipment typically holds value better than standard equipment due to limited supply and ongoing demand. Make sure to: - Take detailed photos before donation (including model/serial numbers) - Get a specific receipt describing it as "specialized tilt wheelchair" with the charity's tax ID - Complete Form 8283 since it's over $500 - Keep all your research documentation (you don't submit it, but need it if questioned) The key is demonstrating you made a good-faith effort to determine accurate fair market value through thorough research and documentation.
Sofia Ramirez
I'm dealing with the exact same frustration! Just tried to log in to check my payment history and got hit with that unhelpful "services unavailable" message. What makes it worse is that I'm trying to gather documentation for a loan application and the bank specifically needs my IRS account transcript. The timing is always terrible with these outages. I've noticed they seem to happen right when you need something urgently. I'm going to try those automated phone numbers that @Logan Stewart shared - hopefully the transcript request line is still operational even if the website is down. For anyone else in a similar bind, I also discovered that some local VITA (Volunteer Income Tax Assistance) sites can sometimes help access basic tax information or at least point you toward alternative resources when the IRS website is acting up. Might be worth calling around if you're really stuck and need something time-sensitive. Thanks everyone for sharing your workarounds and experiences - it's reassuring to know this is a widespread issue and not just me having bad luck with technology!
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StarSailor
ā¢@Sofia Ramirez I m'in almost the exact same situation! Trying to get documentation for a mortgage application and the lender specifically requested my tax transcripts directly from the IRS. It s'so frustrating when these outages happen right when you re'on a tight deadline. I didn t'know about the VITA sites being able to help with this - that s'a great tip! I m'going to look up locations near me just in case the automated phone lines don t'work out. It s'crazy that we have to have all these backup plans just to access our own tax information. Has anyone had luck getting transcripts through the mail during these website outages? I know it takes longer but I m'wondering if that s'still an option when their online systems are down.
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Diego Ramirez
I'm having the exact same problem right now! Been trying to access the IRS website for the past two hours to download some tax forms and keep getting that frustrating "services unavailable" message. The timing is really stressful since I have some amended returns I need to file soon. What's particularly annoying is how vague their error message is - it doesn't tell you if it's planned maintenance, a system crash, or if certain parts of the site might still be working. I tried accessing different sections like the payment portal and forms downloads, but everything seems to be down. I really appreciate everyone sharing the phone numbers and alternative resources. I had no idea about the automated transcript request line or that libraries might have tax resources available. It's good to know there are backup options when their website fails us during such a critical time of year. Has anyone tried accessing the site from different browsers or devices to see if it makes a difference? Sometimes these issues can be browser-specific, though it sounds like this is a widespread outage affecting everyone.
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Zoe Papadopoulos
ā¢I've been dealing with this same issue all morning! Just wanted to chime in as someone relatively new to dealing with IRS website problems. I tried accessing from different browsers (Chrome, Firefox, Safari) and even my phone - same error message everywhere, so it's definitely not browser-specific. What really helped me was reading through all these comments and realizing this is apparently pretty normal during tax season. As a first-time filer dealing with some complicated forms, I was starting to panic that I'd somehow done something wrong with my account. It's frustrating but reassuring to know it's a widespread system issue and not just me. I'm definitely going to try those automated phone numbers everyone mentioned. @Logan Stewart thanks for sharing those specific numbers - having actual alternatives makes this so much less stressful! Also going to look into the local VITA sites that @Sofia Ramirez mentioned since I could probably use some general tax help anyway. Hope everyone gets their issues resolved soon! This community has been really helpful for a newcomer trying to navigate all this.
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