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I'm going through the exact same nightmare! Filed 1/22 and still showing absolutely nothing on transcripts, WMR, or SBTPG. After reading through all these helpful suggestions, I'm planning to try multiple approaches tomorrow morning. First, I'll call the Taxpayer Advocate Service at 877-777-4778 around 7:45 AM based on Miguel's success story - the fact that they actually assigned a case advocate who followed up is exactly what I need right now. If that doesn't work out, I'll try the 866-682-7451 ext 569 number that several people have had success with. The Spanish language line idea is also brilliant - I speak both languages so that could be another option if the English lines are jammed. At this point, after almost 7 weeks with zero updates, I think we definitely qualify for TAS assistance since we've clearly exhausted normal channels. Thanks everyone for sharing your experiences - it's reassuring to know we're not alone in this frustrating situation!
Your multi-pronged approach sounds really smart! I'm in a similar boat (filed 1/28, zero movement anywhere) and I think you're absolutely right that after 7 weeks we definitely qualify for TAS assistance. The timeline Miguel shared gives me hope too - having an actual case advocate who follows up is exactly what we need instead of just getting lost in the phone system maze. I'm definitely going to try that early morning TAS call strategy as well. It's so frustrating that we have to become experts in navigating IRS phone systems just to get basic information about our own returns, but at least we're all sharing strategies that actually work. Please update us on how your calls go tomorrow - I'll be trying the same approach and would love to know if you have success!
I'm dealing with the exact same timeline - filed 1/24 and it's been complete radio silence! Your strategy of trying multiple approaches sounds perfect, and I'm definitely going to follow the same game plan. The early morning TAS call at 7:45 AM seems like our best bet based on Miguel's success story. I'm also bilingual so the Spanish line option could be a great backup plan. After 6+ weeks with absolutely nothing showing up anywhere, we've more than earned the right to TAS assistance. This whole situation is beyond frustrating - we shouldn't have to become IRS phone system experts just to find out what's happening with our own money! I'll be trying these same numbers tomorrow morning too, so hopefully between all of us someone will get through and can share what they learn. Fingers crossed we all get some answers soon!
I'm in the exact same situation and it's incredibly frustrating! Filed 1/29 and haven't seen any movement on transcripts, WMR, or SBTPG either. After reading through everyone's experiences here, I'm convinced that calling the Taxpayer Advocate Service at 877-777-4778 early in the morning is our best shot. Miguel's success story really gives me hope - having an actual case advocate assigned who follows up sounds like exactly what we need after weeks of getting nowhere with the regular IRS lines. I'm also going to try the 866-682-7451 ext 569 number as a backup plan. It's ridiculous that we have to become phone system ninjas just to get basic information about our own returns, but I'm grateful everyone is sharing what actually works. Will definitely update if I manage to get through - we're all in this together!
Has anyone actually successfully qualified for trader tax status while doing swing trading? I'm holding positions for about 2-3 weeks on average, making maybe 6-8 trades per week. My tax guy says I'm nowhere near the volume needed, but then I read about others claiming trader status with similar patterns.
With 6-8 trades per week and 2-3 week holding periods, you're not going to qualify for trader tax status. The courts and IRS generally look for trading that is "substantial, regular, and continuous" - typically hundreds of trades yearly with very short holding periods (often intraday or just a few days).
The consensus here is spot on - swing trading with your holding periods typically won't qualify for trader tax status or provide the tax benefits you're hoping for with an LLC or S-Corp structure. However, there's one angle that hasn't been fully explored: if you're planning to scale up your trading activities significantly in 2025, it might be worth considering the entity structure now to avoid complications later. The administrative burden of transferring existing positions from individual to business accounts can be substantial. That said, at your current activity level, you're likely better off focusing on maximizing the deductions you can already take as an individual investor - things like investment advisory fees, research subscriptions, trading software, and a portion of your home office if used exclusively for trading research. The real question is whether you see your trading evolving into something more substantial where you'd eventually meet the criteria for trader tax status. If not, the entity formation is probably an unnecessary expense and complication for your current situation.
This is really helpful advice about planning ahead for scaling up. I hadn't considered the complexity of transferring existing positions later. One follow-up question - if I do decide to form an entity now for future planning, would you recommend LLC or S-Corp? And is there a minimum income threshold where it starts making sense to maintain the entity even if I'm not getting immediate tax benefits?
Has anyone actually looked at the new 2023 Schedule A? I just downloaded it and Box 8a specifically says "Home mortgage interest and points reported to you on Form 1098." Wouldn't that mean you just put the full amount from your 1098 forms regardless of these limits? The forms from my lenders show about $65k in combined interest.
The Schedule A form itself doesn't have the calculation limitations built in - that's on you to know and apply. The mortgage company reports the FULL interest you paid on Form 1098, but you're only allowed to deduct the portion that falls under the acquisition debt limits. Your lenders don't track how you used the money or which debt limits apply to you - they just report what you paid in interest. It's your responsibility to know that you can only deduct interest on $750K (for post-2017 loans) or $1M (for pre-2017 loans) of acquisition debt per qualified residence. The IRS expects you to calculate and enter the correct deductible amount, even if it's less than what appears on your 1098 forms.
This is such a complex area of tax law! I've been dealing with a similar situation where I have properties purchased on different sides of the 2017 cutoff. One thing that helped me was creating a simple spreadsheet to track each property separately. For your situation, I'd recommend documenting everything clearly: - Primary residence: $700K mortgage (pre-12/15/2017) = 100% of interest deductible - Second home: $1.1M mortgage (post-12/15/2017) = interest on first $750K deductible The key insight from all these responses is that you DON'T combine the limits - each property stands alone based on its purchase date. So you're not limited to some combined $1.75M cap. Also worth noting - since you mentioned renovations on the second home, make sure any loan proceeds used for substantial improvements still count as acquisition debt. The IRS considers improvements that add value, prolong the home's life, or adapt it for new uses as qualifying for the mortgage interest deduction. Keep detailed records of how loan proceeds were used, especially if you did any cash-out refinancing. The documentation will be crucial if you ever face questions about your deductions.
This spreadsheet approach is brilliant! I'm definitely going to set something like this up for my own records. One question though - when you mention "substantial improvements" for the acquisition debt qualification, do you know if there's a specific dollar threshold or percentage of home value that defines "substantial"? I'm asking because we spent about $85K on renovations to the second home (new kitchen, bathroom remodel, flooring throughout), but I want to make sure this actually qualifies as substantial improvement rather than just maintenance/repairs. The IRS language is pretty vague on what constitutes "substantial" versus regular upkeep.
This is such a comprehensive breakdown - thank you for sharing all these specific details! I've been stuck in verification hell since April with EITC issues and seeing your actual check arrival with all the exact formatting gives me real hope for the first time in months. The envelope details are incredibly helpful - I had no idea what to look for on Informed Delivery when my refund finally comes. That Treasury seal, the Kansas City postmark, and the specific check number format (000876706167) will help me identify it immediately when it shows up. I'm seriously leaning toward filing a 1040X to remove my EITC at this point. Eight months of "still processing" messages is absolutely brutal and it sounds like the amendment route is way faster than continuing to wait in verification limbo. The mental exhaustion from constantly checking WMR and getting nowhere just isn't sustainable anymore. Did you get any kind of notification or status update when they started processing your amendment, or did the check just appear out of nowhere like you described? Also, do you feel like you made the right choice looking back, even though you had to give up credits you legitimately qualified for? Posts like this with real details are what keep those of us still waiting somewhat sane - thanks again for taking the time to share your experience! π
Hey Connor! As someone new to this community, I've been reading through all these experiences and it's both reassuring and frustrating to see how common these verification delays are. Eight months since April is absolutely insane - the IRS system is clearly broken when people are waiting that long for legitimate refunds. I'm dealing with similar issues (CTC verification since June) and this thread has been incredibly eye-opening about the 1040X option. The detailed check information from the original post is so valuable - I never would have known what to look for on Informed Delivery either. That specific Treasury envelope format and check numbering system gives us something concrete to watch for instead of just hoping. The fact that so many people in this thread found faster resolution through amendments really says something about how backed up the verification system is. Sometimes you just have to be practical and take what you can get rather than waiting indefinitely for what you're owed. Hope you find a path forward that works for you! π€
This is incredibly helpful - thank you for sharing such detailed information about your refund check! I've been waiting since May with AOTC verification issues and posts like this give me hope that there actually is light at the end of the tunnel. The specific check details are amazing - the envelope formatting with "U.S. DEPARTMENT OF THE TREASURY" and "BUREAU OF THE FISCAL SERVICE," the check number format (000876706167), and even the processing codes. I had no idea what to look for on Informed Delivery when my refund finally arrives, so knowing about that Treasury seal and Kansas City postmark will help me identify it immediately. I'm really considering the 1040X route after reading your experience and all these responses. Six months of "still processing" messages with no end in sight is exhausting, and it sounds like amending to remove unverified credits might be way faster than staying in verification limbo indefinitely. Sometimes getting something is better than potentially waiting another year for maybe getting everything. Quick question - roughly how long was it from when you filed the 1040X to receiving this check? And did you use tax software for the amendment or file it manually? Thanks again for taking the time to share all these specifics - seeing that actual check number and envelope details makes this whole process feel real again after months of wondering if refunds even exist anymore! π
Andre Rousseau
Something no one mentioned yet - make sure you and your spouse don't accidentally exceed the family limit COMBINED during the transition months. When my husband and I went through this, our benefits department counted wrong and we over-contributed by accident. Had to withdraw the excess contribution before filing taxes which was a hassle because we'd already spent some of the HSA funds on medical expenses. Just double check all your calculations!
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Zoe Papadakis
β’This isn't accurate. Once you have separate individual coverage, you can EACH contribute up to the individual limit for those months. You're not restricted by the family limit anymore after the coverage changes.
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Andre Rousseau
β’You're right, and I should have been clearer. What I meant was during the months when one spouse is still covered under the other's family plan, but also has their own individual plan. That's when confusion can happen. In our case, I still had my husband on my family plan during a 60-day waiting period before his new job's insurance kicked in, but his HR department told him he could contribute the full individual amount immediately. That wasn't correct since he was still also covered under my family plan, and it caused us to go over the limit temporarily.
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Muhammad Hobbs
This is such a timely question! I just went through something similar when my partner switched jobs mid-year. One thing that really helped me was keeping detailed records of exactly when each coverage period started and ended - down to the specific dates, not just months. The IRS can be pretty strict about the timing, especially if there are any gaps in coverage or overlapping periods. I'd recommend documenting everything: when your wife's current coverage under your plan ends, when her new employer's coverage begins, and whether there's any continuation coverage (like COBRA) in between. Also, don't forget about the catch-up contributions if either of you is 55 or older! Those rules can get even more complex with mid-year changes. The additional $1,000 catch-up contribution follows the same monthly calculation rules, so you'd need to factor that in too. One last tip - consider setting up automatic contributions to match your calculated monthly limits rather than trying to make one large contribution at year-end. It helps avoid accidentally over-contributing and makes the whole process much more manageable.
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Ethan Campbell
β’Great point about documenting the exact dates! I'm dealing with a similar transition and hadn't thought about potential gaps or overlaps in coverage. My wife's new job has a 30-day waiting period before benefits kick in, so I'm wondering if we should look into COBRA for that gap month to avoid any complications with the HSA eligibility rules. Also, thanks for mentioning the catch-up contributions - neither of us is 55 yet, but it's good to know that gets even more complex. The automatic contribution idea is brilliant too. I was planning to just calculate everything at the end of the year, but spreading it out monthly would definitely be safer and help avoid any over-contribution mistakes. Did you run into any issues with your HSA administrator when explaining the mid-year change? I'm worried they might not understand the calculation method and could flag contributions as excessive.
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