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Quick tip for anyone filing back taxes with ITIN/SSN issues - print out copies of everything before you mail it! My returns got "lost" twice and having copies saved me from having to redo all that work. Also consider paying for tracking when you mail returns to the IRS.
I went through almost the exact same situation last year! My husband transitioned from ITIN to SSN in 2022, and we had to file back taxes for 2018-2020. Here's what I learned from working with a tax professional: 1. Use the ITIN for those tax years (2019-2020) since that's what was valid then 2. Make sure to check if the ITIN was still valid for those years - if it expired, you'll need to renew it first 3. Include a cover letter explaining the ID number change to avoid processing delays 4. You're right that you won't qualify for certain credits like EIC for those years, but that's unfortunately how the system works For the payment plan, make sure all your returns are filed and processed first. The IRS won't approve a payment plan until they have all required returns on file. Once everything is processed, you can apply online if you owe less than $50K total. One thing that helped us was getting a tax transcript for each year to confirm our returns were properly processed before applying for the payment plan. You can request these online through the IRS website. Good luck - I know how stressful this whole process is, but you'll get through it!
This is incredibly helpful, thank you! I'm dealing with a similar situation right now. Quick question - when you mention including a cover letter explaining the ID number change, did you attach this to each tax return you mailed in, or just send it once with all the returns together? Also, how long did it take for your returns to show up on the tax transcripts after you filed them? I'm trying to plan out the timeline for getting my payment plan set up.
@e7127ccef07c I included the cover letter with each return I mailed - basically a one-page explanation that my spouse's identification changed from ITIN to SSN after the tax year ended, so the return reflects the ID number valid at that time. I figured it was better to be redundant than have one return get separated from the explanation. For timing, it took about 8-10 weeks for the returns to show up on my tax transcripts after I mailed them (this was during tax season though, so processing was slower). I'd recommend checking your transcripts every few weeks once you hit the 6-week mark. One heads up - even after the returns showed on the transcripts, it took another 2-3 weeks for the online payment plan system to recognize that all my returns were filed. The IRS systems don't always sync up immediately. I ended up calling (well, using one of those callback services someone mentioned above) to confirm everything was ready before applying for the payment plan. The whole process from mailing returns to getting payment plan approval took about 4 months for me, but now I have peace of mind knowing everything is properly handled!
I'm dealing with a very similar situation right now - temporarily relocated to help care for my spouse's mother while renting out our primary home. One resource that's been incredibly helpful is the IRS Taxpayer Advocate Service, especially if you run into any issues or need clarification on complex scenarios like ours. What I've learned through this process is that the key is meticulous record-keeping from day one. Beyond what others have mentioned about rental expenses and active participation, I'd also suggest: - Keep copies of any medical documentation related to your parents' care needs - Document your voting registration, driver's license address, and any other ties to your primary residence - Save utility bills, insurance policies, and other documents that show your intent to return - Keep records of any home improvements or maintenance you do remotely One thing that surprised me was learning about the "unforeseen circumstances" provisions in tax law. If your temporary situation extends beyond what you originally planned due to your parents' changing health needs, there are sometimes additional protections for primary residence status. The emotional stress of caring for aging parents is hard enough without worrying about tax complications. Just remember that you're doing the right thing, and the tax code generally recognizes these kinds of family care situations as legitimate reasons for temporary relocation. The documentation might seem excessive now, but it provides peace of mind if any questions come up later.
Thank you for mentioning the Taxpayer Advocate Service - I hadn't heard of that resource before but it sounds like it could be really helpful if we run into any complications. Your point about the "unforeseen circumstances" provisions is particularly relevant to our situation. We initially thought this would be a 12-18 month arrangement, but my parents' health has been more unpredictable than we expected. It's reassuring to know there are protections if we end up needing to stay longer than originally planned. I really appreciate the detailed documentation checklist you provided. We've been good about keeping rental-related records, but I realize we haven't been as systematic about documenting the medical/care aspects or maintaining our ties to our primary residence. I'm going to start organizing all of that immediately. You're absolutely right about the emotional stress of this situation. Between managing the rental remotely, coordinating my parents' care, and trying to understand all the tax implications, it can feel overwhelming. It helps to hear from others who've successfully navigated similar circumstances and to be reminded that we're doing this for the right reasons. The peace of mind that comes from proper documentation will definitely be worth the extra effort.
I've been following this thread with great interest as I'm in an almost identical situation - temporarily relocated to care for my aging mother while renting out our primary home. The discussion here has been incredibly helpful, especially the points about active participation and the potential for rental losses to actually provide tax benefits. One additional consideration I'd like to add is about timing your return strategically. If you're approaching the end of a tax year and have flexibility in when you move back, it might be worth consulting with a tax professional about whether returning in December vs. January could impact your overall tax situation, especially regarding the rental loss deductions and primary residence status. Also, for anyone using property management software or apps to coordinate with tenants remotely, keep screenshots and records of your management activities. I use a simple rental management app that tracks all my communications with tenants, maintenance requests, and rent collection - this documentation has been invaluable for establishing active participation. The emotional toll of managing a rental property while caring for elderly parents is real, but this thread has shown me there are more tax advantages to our situation than I initially realized. Thanks to everyone who has shared their experiences and resources - it's made a stressful situation much more manageable.
This is such a valuable point about timing the return strategically! I hadn't considered how the timing of when we move back could affect our overall tax situation. Given that we're already in November and still not sure exactly when my parents will be stable enough for us to return home, this could be really relevant for our planning. The property management app idea is brilliant too. We've been handling everything through text messages and emails, but having everything consolidated in one app with automatic documentation would make the active participation records much cleaner. Do you have a specific app recommendation that's worked well for you? It's been so reassuring to connect with others going through similar situations. When we first made the decision to temporarily relocate for family care, I was focused entirely on the emotional and logistical challenges. The tax implications felt like just another burden on top of everything else. But this discussion has helped me see that with proper planning and documentation, we might actually be in a better position than I thought. Thank you for sharing your experience and for the practical tips about timing and documentation. It's exactly the kind of real-world advice that you can't find in tax guides but makes all the difference when you're actually living through these situations.
One additional consideration that hasn't been fully addressed - if you're dealing with significant investment gains, you might want to explore charitable remainder trusts (CRTs) or donor-advised funds as alternatives to direct donations. With a CRT, you could transfer some of your appreciated stock directly to the trust, get an immediate charitable deduction, avoid capital gains tax on the transfer, and still receive income payments back over time. This could be especially beneficial given your unexpected investment returns. Donor-advised funds are simpler and let you make a large contribution in a high-income year (like this one with your investment gains), get the immediate tax deduction if you itemize, and then distribute the funds to charities over multiple years. You'd still need to itemize to benefit, but it gives you more flexibility in timing your charitable giving. Since you're in a partnership, these strategies would typically be done personally rather than through the LLC, but they might be more tax-efficient ways to achieve your charitable and tax planning goals given your current situation with the investment gains.
These are excellent strategies to consider, especially the donor-advised fund approach! Since you mentioned this is your first year dealing with substantial investment returns, a donor-advised fund could be perfect for your situation. You could contribute enough this year to push your itemized deductions above the standard deduction threshold, get the immediate tax benefit, and then have years to decide which charities to support. One thing to keep in mind with CRTs though - they typically require a minimum contribution (often $100K+) and have ongoing administrative costs, so they might be overkill for your current situation. But definitely worth exploring as your investment portfolio grows. Given that you're dealing with appreciated stock specifically, you might also want to look into donating the actual stock shares rather than cash. This way you avoid paying capital gains tax on the appreciation while still getting the full fair market value deduction. Most established charities can accept stock donations directly, and it's often more tax-efficient than selling the stock and donating the proceeds.
This has been such a helpful thread! As someone also dealing with unexpected investment gains in my LLC partnership, I wanted to share what I learned after consulting with a tax specialist following this discussion. The key insight was that LLC charitable donations are really more about the individual partners' tax situations than the business itself. Since the deduction passes through, it only helps if you itemize - and with the current high standard deduction amounts, many people don't. What worked better for my situation was a hybrid approach: 1) Used legitimate business expenses (equipment purchases, professional development) to reduce the partnership income directly 2) Made personal charitable donations using the stock donation strategy mentioned by Nia - donated appreciated shares directly to avoid capital gains while getting the full FMV deduction 3) Bunched two years of planned donations into this high-income year to push itemized deductions above the standard deduction threshold This combination gave us both business-level tax reduction AND personal charitable deductions that actually provided tax benefit. The stock donation piece was especially powerful since we avoided paying capital gains on the appreciation. For anyone in a similar situation, I'd definitely recommend mapping out both business expense strategies AND personal charitable giving strategies rather than assuming business donations are automatically better. The pass-through nature of partnerships makes the tax planning more nuanced than it first appears.
This is exactly the kind of comprehensive approach I was looking for! Your hybrid strategy makes so much sense - addressing both the business and personal sides of the tax equation rather than trying to force everything through one channel. The stock donation piece is particularly interesting. I hadn't considered that we could donate our appreciated shares directly instead of selling them first. Given that our gains came from stock investments that really took off, this could help us avoid a significant capital gains hit while still supporting causes we care about. Quick question on the bunching strategy - did you find it challenging to identify enough charitable causes to make a meaningful donation in a single year? I'm wondering if there are any downsides to concentrating all your giving into one tax year versus spreading it out more naturally. Also, for the business expense side, what types of equipment or professional development did you find most beneficial? We're always looking for legitimate ways to invest back into the business while optimizing our tax situation.
write down everything they tell you! I always forget important details after the call smh
Leslie Parker
Don't forget you can also deduct state and local taxes (SALT) up to $10,000 when itemizing! This includes state income tax or sales tax (you choose which one), plus property taxes. If you paid state income tax through withholding from your paycheck, that counts toward this potential deduction. Even if your medical expenses aren't enough by themselves to exceed the standard deduction, combining them with SALT deductions might push you over the edge. Check your W-2 box 17 to see how much state tax was withheld, and add any property taxes if you paid them.
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Sergio Neal
โขBut OP said they're living with parents so probably don't have property taxes, right? Would state income tax alone be enough to make a difference?
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Leslie Parker
โขYou're right that property taxes probably don't apply in OP's situation. State income tax alone could still help, but it would depend on how much they earn and their state's tax rate. For someone with modest income in a low-tax state, state income tax might only be $1,000-2,000, which combined with the medical expenses that exceed the 7.5% threshold might still not reach the standard deduction amount. However, in higher-tax states or with higher income, the state tax could be more significant and might help push the total itemized deductions over the standard deduction threshold.
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Savanna Franklin
One thing to consider - if youre close to making itemizing worth it, donating some stuff to charity before the end of the year could push u over the edge! I was in a similar spot last year and cleaned out my closet, got a receipt from Goodwill for like $350 in donated clothes and that was enough to make itemizing better than standard deduction for me.
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Juan Moreno
โขThat's actually smart! Do you need any special documentation for those donations or just the receipt they give you?
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