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Is there a way to file Form 8919 and SS-8 through FreeTax USA? Need help ASAP!

I'm so behind on my taxes this year and just now realizing I might have been misclassified as an independent contractor. I worked for a small marketing company last year who paid me without any tax withholding, but I was basically treated like an employee - set hours, using their equipment, following their procedures, etc. After doing some research, I think I need to file Form 8919 (Uncollected Social Security and Medicare Tax on Wages) and Form SS-8 (Determination of Worker Status) to address this situation, but I'm not sure if FreeTax USA supports these forms. I've already started my return with them and really don't want to start over with another service since I'm already running late. Has anyone successfully filed these specific forms through FreeTax USA? Or am I going to have to switch to another tax service? If so, which ones definitely support these forms? Really appreciate any help since I'm trying to get this sorted out quickly!

Have you considered TurboTax instead? I know nobody wants to switch software mid-return, but I successfully filed Form 8919 through them last year. Their interface walks you through the misclassification situation pretty clearly. They have specific questions that help determine if you qualify. Might be worth the switch if you're hitting roadblocks with FreeTax USA.

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Thanks for the suggestion, but I'm pretty deep into my return on FreeTax USA already. Did TurboTax also explain how to handle the SS-8 form? And did you end up getting a determination from the IRS about your worker status?

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TurboTax handled the 8919 form but like others mentioned, the SS-8 is filed separately regardless of which software you use. They do provide guidance about it though. I did eventually get a determination from the IRS, but it took almost 8 months. The good news is they ruled in my favor and determined I was an employee. My former company had to pay the employer portion of the taxes. Just be prepared for a long wait - the SS-8 process isn't quick, but filing Form 8919 with reason code G protects you in the meantime.

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One thing nobody's mentioned - be prepared for potential fallout with your employer. When you file these forms, the IRS will eventually contact them as part of the determination process. Some employers don't take kindly to being reported for misclassification. Happened to me last year and it got awkward fast.

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I hadn't even thought about that aspect. Thankfully I don't work for them anymore, but I still need references from them. Do you think I should give them a heads up before filing, or would that just create problems sooner?

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I wouldn't give them a heads up - that could backfire and give them time to prepare a defense or retaliate against you in other ways. The IRS process is designed to be objective and they'll review the facts regardless of what your former employer says. Since you don't work there anymore, you're in a much better position than someone who's still employed. Just make sure you document everything you can remember about your working relationship - emails showing they controlled your schedule, any company policies you had to follow, equipment they provided, etc. The stronger your documentation, the better your case will be. Your former employer will find out eventually when the IRS contacts them, but by then you'll already have your forms filed and the process will be underway. Focus on building the strongest case possible rather than managing their feelings about it.

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Cycle Code 05 - Will Refund Process Before Transcript Shows 846?

Filed 2/10. Cycle code 05. Weekly updates. Transcripts updated Friday 3/15. WMR updated to processing message 3/16. Transcripts should update with 846 Friday 3/22 with DDD of 3/26. Need confirmation. Has anyone with cycle 05 ever received refund before transcript updated? Will I need to wait for 846 to show on transcript? Or can refunds be issued any day?

I was in exactly your situation on March 8th last year. Transcript had updated on March 1st. WMR changed to processing on March 2nd. Was told to expect 846 code on March 8th with DDD of March 12th. I was completely lost trying to interpret all the codes and dates. Used https://taxr.ai to analyze my transcript and it predicted everything perfectly. It explained that my cycle code meant weekly updates and showed me exactly what to expect next. Saved me from checking WMR 50 times a day!

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Thanks for mentioning this. Just what I needed.

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To clarify - this tool doesn't change when you get your refund, it just helps you understand what's happening with your return. The IRS processing schedule remains the same regardless.

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OMG I've been tracking this EXACT pattern for years! ๐Ÿง I'm a cycle 05 filer too and I keep spreadsheets of all my refund timelines. Last year I filed on 2/2/2023, transcript updated 2/17/2023, WMR changed 2/18/2023, 846 code appeared 2/24/2023, and refund hit my bank 2/28/2023. The year before was almost identical timing! I literally plan my bill payments around this schedule now. The only time it ever varied was 2021 when there were those massive COVID processing delays.

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Did ur WMR bar ever disappear during processing? Mine vanished last week and I'm freaking out a bit.

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@Dylan Mitchell Yes, the WMR bars disappearing is totally normal during processing! It happened to me last year around the same timeframe. The bars usually vanish when they re'updating your status from processing "to" refund "sent. Don" t'panic - it s'actually a good sign that movement is happening behind the scenes. @Yara Nassar I love that you keep spreadsheets! That s so'smart for planning. Have you noticed any pattern with which banks process the deposits faster once the 846 code appears?

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Where to report Line 3 of 1099-MISC: Schedule C or Line 21 of 1040 for direct selling income?

I'm seriously confused about how to help my sister with her tax situation. She got into selling for one of those kitchen product companies (Cutco) this past year and received a 1099-MISC that has amounts listed on both Line 3 (Other income) and Line 7 (Nonemployee compensation). I know the Line 7 amount goes on Schedule C and is subject to self-employment tax, but what about the Line 3 "Other income" amount? Since it's related to her business, shouldn't it also go on Schedule C somewhere? But I can't find where. Or does it go on Line 21 of Form 1040 as "Other income"? I've been searching online for hours, checked the IRS website, and even downloaded the Schedule C instructions PDF, but I'm getting conflicting information. Some places say business-related income should all go on Schedule C regardless of which line it's on in the 1099-MISC, while others say Line 3 income should be reported separately. Can anyone give me a straight answer before I mess up her taxes? Thanks for any help you can provide!

Has anyone used TurboTax to report this kind of situation? I have a similar 1099-MISC with both Line 3 and Line 7 amounts from my Etsy business, and I'm not sure if the software handles this correctly. When I entered the full 1099-MISC info, it seemed to put everything on Schedule C.

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I used TurboTax this year for my side gig and it actually handles this pretty well. When you enter the 1099-MISC, it asks you to break down the amounts by box number and then asks follow-up questions about the nature of any "Other income" on Line 3. Based on your answers, it will either put it on Schedule C or on Schedule 1 of your 1040. Just make sure you choose "Business" as the category when it asks what the Line 3 income relates to, assuming it's connected to your Etsy activities. TurboTax will then guide you to the right place on Schedule C.

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Thanks for this info! I'll go back and double-check my entries. I think I might have rushed through those follow-up questions and that's why everything got lumped together. It's reassuring to know the software can handle this situation correctly if I input everything properly.

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I've been dealing with a similar situation with my Pampered Chef business, and after going through all this confusion myself, I can confirm what others have said here. The key is understanding that the IRS cares more about the nature of the income than which box it appears in on the 1099-MISC. For your sister's Cutco situation, if that Line 3 "Other income" is from business-related activities like recruitment bonuses, sales incentives, or achievement awards, it should definitely go on Schedule C, Line 6 as "Other income." This keeps it as part of her business income but separates it from the nonemployee compensation on Line 7. One thing I learned the hard way is to always ask the company what specifically the Line 3 income represents before filing. Sometimes they put things like training reimbursements or kit refunds there, which might be treated differently. But based on your description, it sounds like typical MLM bonus income that belongs on Schedule C. The good news is that Line 3 income isn't subject to self-employment tax, so she won't owe the additional 15.3% on that amount - only regular income tax. Make sure she keeps good records explaining what each payment was for, just in case!

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Can I claim home office deduction for kitchen remodel expenses as self-employed?

I'm self-employed and have a dedicated home office that makes up about 10% of my home's total square footage. This year I spent around $65K on a complete kitchen renovation, but the kitchen isn't related to my business operations at all. I'm wondering if I should include these kitchen renovation costs in my home office deduction? (If I did, it would be calculated at 10% = $6.5K) Also, since I'm using the actual expense method instead of the simplified option for my home office deduction, does this kitchen remodel increase my home's cost basis from last year when calculating depreciation for my business use? (It seems like in TurboTax I'd need to manually adjust Form 8829 to increase the cost basis by $65K.) I'm definitely not looking to take any inappropriate deductions - I just want to make sure I handle the depreciation correctly to avoid complications when I eventually sell the house. (Looking back, the simplified method probably would've been easier, but I've been using the actual expense method in previous years.

Has anybody used the safe harbor method for home office? It's way simpler - just $5 per square foot up to 300 sq ft. I switched to this method and while I might get a slightly smaller deduction, the paperwork is SO much easier and I don't have to track all these complicated depreciation schedules or worry about recapture later.

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I tried that but realized I was leaving too much money on the table. If you have a larger home office or live in an expensive area with high utility costs, the actual expenses method usually comes out ahead. It's definitely more paperwork though.

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Just wanted to add another perspective here - I went through this exact situation two years ago with a $45K kitchen renovation and 12% home office usage. After consulting with my CPA, we decided to track the improvement and take the depreciation deductions even though they're small ($138/year in my case). The key thing my CPA emphasized was documentation. Make sure you keep all receipts, before/after photos, and detailed records of what was done. When I eventually sell my house, having proper documentation of the cost basis increases will be crucial for calculating capital gains correctly. Also, one thing to consider - if your business grows and you end up using more of your home for business purposes in future years, that kitchen improvement could become more valuable tax-wise. I actually expanded my home office last year to 18% of my house, so now I'm depreciating 18% of that kitchen cost instead of 12%.

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PATH Act Question: Can I get Code 846 DD date before PATH lifts?

Filed early with EIC and CTC. My transcript updated and shows code 846 with direct deposit date after PATH lifts. Is this normal? Never seen this before and wondering if anyone else has experience with getting dates before PATH actually lifts.

Anybody else's WMR still say delayed but transcript showing 846? getting mixed signals here lol

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WMR is always behind dont even bother checking it tbh

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Yeah this is totally normal! I've seen this happen before where the IRS processes everything and assigns your 846 code with the deposit date, but the actual funds won't move until PATH officially lifts on Feb 15th. Your transcript is basically showing you that your return has been approved and they've scheduled when the money will be released. Don't worry about the date showing before PATH ends - that's just how their system works. The important thing is you got your 846 which means you're all set! ๐ŸŽ‰

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