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How to file income tax in US and Mexico as US citizen with permanent Mexican residency?

I'm trying to help my mom figure out her tax situation since she's a US citizen but also has permanent residency in Mexico. She splits her time between both countries (roughly 65% US, 35% Mexico) and just purchased a vacation rental property in Mexico that she'll start earning income from next year. We already found a local accountant in Mexico who will help with filing Mexican taxes for the rental income. She's been filing US taxes for years since she has several rental properties in California and Arizona, plus her retirement accounts. I understand there's a tax treaty between US and Mexico to prevent double taxation, and I know she'll need to report the Mexican rental income on her US tax return. But I'm confused about Mexico's requirements - does Mexico require reporting of worldwide income? Will she need to disclose ALL her US-based income (rental properties, 401k distributions, social security, etc.) on her Mexican tax return? I originally thought she'd only need to pay Mexican taxes on the Mexican vacation rental income, but now I'm worried she needs to report everything to both countries. Any guidance would be appreciated!

You're right to be concerned about this - it's a common issue for people with ties to both countries. The short answer is yes, as a Mexican permanent resident, your mom is generally required to report her worldwide income to Mexican tax authorities, not just income sourced from Mexico. Mexico, like the US, taxes residents on their worldwide income. The good news is that the US-Mexico tax treaty helps prevent double taxation. Usually, your mom would report all income to both countries, but then use foreign tax credits to offset taxes already paid to the other country. For example, she'll report her Mexican rental income on her US return, but can claim a foreign tax credit for taxes paid to Mexico on that income. Similarly, she can often get credits on her Mexican return for US taxes paid on US-sourced income. The 401k distributions might have special treatment under the treaty. Some retirement income is only taxable in the country of residence of the person receiving it, but the specifics depend on the type of retirement plan.

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Thanks for this. So are you saying that even though she'll pay taxes to Mexico for her rental property there, she still has to ALSO pay taxes to the US on that same rental income? That seems like getting taxed twice...or am I misunderstanding how the tax credit works?

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You'll report the Mexican rental income on both returns, but you won't be double-taxed. On her US return, she can claim the Foreign Tax Credit (Form 1116) for taxes paid to Mexico on that rental income. This credit directly reduces her US tax liability. Similarly, on her Mexican return, she can generally claim credits for taxes paid to the US on US-sourced income. The tax treaty ensures you're not paying full taxes twice on the same income - you essentially pay the higher of the two countries' tax rates on each type of income.

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Does it handle the foreign housing exclusion too? I'm considering becoming a permanent resident in Mexico but worried about how that affects my US foreign earned income exclusion since I'd technically have homes in both countries.

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - your mom should look into whether she qualifies as a "non-domiciled resident" in Mexico. There's a special status for foreigners with permanent residency who maintain stronger connections to their home country. If she spends more time in the US (you said 65%), keeps her main bank accounts there, and has stronger economic ties to the US, she might qualify for this status which can limit Mexican taxation to only Mexican-source income. Would save her from having to report her worldwide income to Mexico. Worth asking her Mexican accountant about this specifically - many don't bring it up unless you ask directly.

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That's really interesting and could be a game-changer for my mom's situation. Do you know what the Spanish term is for this status? I want to make sure her Mexican accountant understands exactly what I'm asking about. Is there a specific form or process to apply for this non-domiciled status?

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The Spanish term is "residente permanente no domiciliado" or sometimes just "no domiciliado." There's no specific form to apply for the status - it's more about how you report on your Mexican tax return. Your mom would need to demonstrate that her "centro de intereses vitales" (center of vital interests) remains in the US. This means showing that her most significant personal and economic ties are still to the US rather than Mexico, despite having permanent residency status in Mexico.

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Careful with Mexican tax authorities! They've gotten much more strict in recent years. My friend is a permanent resident there and thought he only needed to report Mexican income, but got hit with a huge penalty for not declaring his US pension and rental properties. If your mom decides to use the "non-domiciled" approach mentioned above, make sure she has VERY clear documentation proving her stronger ties to the US. They look at factors like where family lives, where most valuable property is, main source of income, etc.

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This is scary. Did your friend eventually get it resolved? I'm in a similar situation and worried now. I have permanent residency in Mexico but all my retirement income comes from the States.

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This is such a complex situation that affects so many Americans with ties to Mexico! I've been dealing with similar issues as a US citizen who recently got permanent residency in Mexico. One thing I learned the hard way is that timing matters a lot for when you become a Mexican tax resident. The rules changed in recent years - now if you have permanent residency status, you're generally considered a Mexican tax resident regardless of how many days you spend there, unlike the old 183-day rule. For your mom's situation, I'd strongly recommend getting clarity on her exact tax residency status in Mexico BEFORE she starts earning rental income there. It's much easier to plan the structure correctly from the beginning than to fix it later. Also, don't forget about FBAR reporting requirements in the US if she opens Mexican bank accounts for the rental property. Any foreign financial accounts over $10,000 need to be reported to FinCEN, and the penalties for missing this are severe. The Mexican tax system can be quite different from what we're used to in the US - things like how depreciation works, what expenses are deductible, and timing of when income is recognized. Having both a good Mexican accountant AND a US accountant who understands international issues is really worth the investment.

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This is really helpful, especially the point about timing and planning ahead. I had no idea about the FBAR requirements - that's definitely something we need to look into since she'll likely need Mexican bank accounts for the rental property. You mentioned that having permanent residency automatically makes you a Mexican tax resident now regardless of days spent there. Does this mean the old strategy of spending less than 183 days in Mexico to avoid tax residency no longer works for permanent residents? That could completely change how we approach this situation. Also, do you know if there are any specific rules about how rental income depreciation is handled differently between the two countries? I'm worried about situations where Mexico might not allow the same depreciation schedule as the US, creating timing differences in when income is recognized.

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