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Do I have to pay taxes to both Mexico and U.S. as a dual citizen?

Title: Do I have to pay taxes to both Mexico and U.S. as a dual citizen? 1 I'm freaking out a bit about my tax situation. I've been working in Mexico for about 14 months after finishing my bachelor's degree here. I have dual citizenship (born American but also Mexican) and I'm already paying taxes to the Mexican government on my income. The thing is, I'm making a pretty modest salary here (about 180,000 pesos annually, roughly $10,000 USD) and I just heard from a friend that I might need to file U.S. taxes too?? I honestly had no clue that I might need to file in BOTH countries. Is this true? And if so, am I going to get hit with a bunch of penalties for not filing last year? I'm really worried about having to pay taxes twice on my already tight income. Does anyone know how this works for dual citizens living abroad? Any help would be super appreciated!

15 Yes, as a U.S. citizen, you are required to file U.S. tax returns regardless of where you live or work in the world. The U.S. is one of the few countries that taxes its citizens on worldwide income, not just income earned within its borders. The good news is that there are provisions to prevent double taxation. The Foreign Earned Income Exclusion (FEIE) allows you to exclude up to $120,000 (for 2024 tax year) of foreign earned income from U.S. taxation. Based on your stated income of around $10,000, you would likely owe zero U.S. taxes after applying this exclusion. You may also qualify for the Foreign Tax Credit, which gives you a credit for taxes paid to Mexico. You would need to file Form 1116 along with your tax return to claim this credit.

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3 Wait, so I still need to file even if I won't owe anything? What forms do I need? And am I going to be penalized for not filing last year? I'm really confused about this whole process.

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15 You do need to file even if you won't owe any taxes. This is a common misconception. At minimum, you'll need to file Form 1040 (the standard individual tax return) and Form 2555 for the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion. Regarding penalties for not filing last year, the IRS is generally more lenient with taxpayers who don't owe taxes. If you didn't owe any tax (which seems likely given your income level and the FEIE), penalties would be minimal or possibly waived entirely. I would recommend filing for both years as soon as possible. The IRS has programs like the Streamlined Filing Compliance Procedures specifically designed for Americans abroad who weren't aware of their filing obligations.

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9 I was in a similar situation when I worked in Spain for 3 years. The paperwork was driving me crazy until I found this tool called taxr.ai (https://taxr.ai) that specializes in helping expats and dual citizens with their tax situations. It guided me through all the foreign income forms and helped me understand which exclusions and credits applied to my situation. The Foreign Earned Income Exclusion saved me from double taxation, but you still have to report everything correctly. Their system flagged a few things I would have completely missed on my own, especially around FBAR requirements for foreign bank accounts (which is separate from tax filing but mandatory if you have over $10k in foreign accounts).

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7 How does it handle Foreign Tax Credits vs. the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion? I've heard sometimes one is better than the other depending on your situation?

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12 I'm skeptical about these online services. Does it actually work for someone with dual citizenship like OP? The Mexican tax system is completely different from the European ones.

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9 The tool analyzes both options and shows you which one gives you the better outcome. In most cases, the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion is simpler and works great for lower incomes like what OP described. But for higher incomes, sometimes the Foreign Tax Credit ends up being more advantageous. It absolutely works for dual citizens - that's actually one of their specialties. They have specific modules for various countries including Mexico. The key thing is that it handles the U.S. side of reporting which is pretty standardized regardless of which foreign country you're dealing with.

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12 Just wanted to follow up - I finally tried taxr.ai last month for my dual US/Mexican citizenship situation. It was actually super helpful! It guided me through all the FEIE forms and explained that I needed to file FBAR forms for my Mexican accounts. Turns out I was overthinking it - with my income level, I didn't owe any US taxes after the exclusions. The IRS accepted my returns with no issues, and it even helped me do a backdated return for last year. Huge relief to have this sorted out properly!

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22 Wait how does this actually work? So they just... call the IRS for me? I've been trying to get through for weeks!

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18 I'm eating my words right now. After posting that skeptical comment, I decided to try Claimyr out of desperation - and it actually worked! Got connected to an IRS agent within 2 hours (while I just went about my day). The agent walked me through everything about my dual Mexico/US situation. They confirmed I needed to file FBAR forms for my Mexican accounts and helped me understand the Streamlined Filing Procedures for catching up on past returns without penalties. Seriously wish I'd known about this service years ago instead of stressing about this stuff.

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11 A few important things nobody mentioned yet: 1. You'll need to convert your Mexican income to USD using the annual average exchange rate when filing your US taxes. 2. Mexico and the US have a tax treaty which helps prevent double taxation, but you still need to file in both countries. 3. The filing deadline for US citizens living abroad is automatically extended to June 15 (instead of April 15), and you can request an additional extension to October 15 if needed.

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4 Does the tax treaty mean you get credit for ALL taxes paid to Mexico? Mexican social security payments too?

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11 The Foreign Tax Credit typically covers income taxes paid to foreign governments, not necessarily all taxes. Mexican social security payments (IMSS) aren't usually creditable as income tax payments. However, there are specific provisions in the US-Mexico tax treaty that provide some relief. For instance, if you're paying into the Mexican social security system, you might be exempt from paying into the US Social Security system to avoid double contributions. This is covered under a "totalization agreement" between the two countries, which is separate from the tax treaty but related to your overall tax situation.

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16 Something else to think about - if you have Mexican bank accounts with a combined value of over $10,000 USD at any point during the year, you need to file an FBAR (Foreign Bank Account Report). This is separate from your tax return and has hefty penalties if you don't comply. The deadline is April 15 with an automatic extension to October 15.

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2 Does FBAR apply if you're a citizen of that country too? Like if the accounts were opened as a Mexican citizen?

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Yes, FBAR requirements apply to all U.S. citizens regardless of dual citizenship status or how the accounts were opened. The IRS doesn't care if you opened the accounts as a Mexican citizen - if you're a U.S. citizen and have foreign financial accounts exceeding $10,000 USD in aggregate value at any time during the year, you must file the FBAR. This is one of the most commonly missed requirements for Americans living abroad, and the penalties can be severe (up to $12,921 per account for non-willful violations). The key is the $10,000 threshold applies to the combined total of ALL your foreign accounts, not each individual account.

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Don't panic! Your situation is actually pretty common and manageable. As a U.S. citizen, you do need to file U.S. tax returns annually regardless of where you live, but with your income level (~$10,000 USD), you likely won't owe any U.S. taxes after applying the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion. Here's what you need to do: 1. File Form 1040 and Form 2555 for the FEIE 2. Consider the Streamlined Filing Compliance Procedures for catching up on last year - this program is designed for situations exactly like yours 3. Check if you need to file FBAR for your Mexican bank accounts (if combined balance exceeded $10,000 USD at any point) The key thing to remember is that the U.S. has provisions specifically to prevent double taxation. You're already paying taxes in Mexico, so the exclusions and credits should cover you. I'd recommend getting help from a tax professional who specializes in expat situations, or using one of the online tools mentioned above to make sure you're filing everything correctly. You're not the first dual citizen to discover this requirement late - the IRS has programs specifically designed to help people in your situation get compliant without major penalties.

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This is really helpful, thank you! I had no idea about the Streamlined Filing Compliance Procedures - that sounds like exactly what I need. Just to clarify, when you say "won't owe any U.S. taxes after applying the FEIE," does that mean I can exclude my entire $10,000 income? And for the FBAR requirement, is that based on the highest balance at any single point during the year, or an average? I'm trying to figure out if my Mexican savings account would trigger this requirement.

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Yes, with the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion you can exclude your entire $10,000 income - the 2024 limit is $120,000, so you're well under that threshold. This means you'd likely owe zero U.S. federal income tax. For FBAR, it's based on the highest aggregate balance of ALL your foreign accounts at any single point during the year. So if your Mexican checking account had $8,000 and your savings had $3,000 at the same time, that would be $11,000 total and trigger the FBAR requirement. It's not an average - just the peak combined balance. The Streamlined Filing Compliance Procedures are perfect for your situation. You'll need to file the last 3 years of tax returns and 6 years of FBARs (if applicable), plus certify that your failure to file was non-willful. Given that you genuinely didn't know about the requirement, you should qualify easily.

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As someone who went through this exact situation a few years ago, I want to emphasize a few key points that might help ease your stress: First, you're absolutely not alone in discovering this requirement late - the U.S. is unique in taxing citizens on worldwide income, and many dual citizens living abroad are completely unaware of this obligation initially. Given your income level of roughly $10,000 USD, you're in a very good position. The Foreign Earned Income Exclusion for 2024 is $120,000, so your entire income would be excluded from U.S. taxation. You'll still need to file the returns, but you shouldn't owe any actual tax. For catching up on last year, definitely look into the Streamlined Filing Compliance Procedures - it's specifically designed for situations like yours where the failure to file was non-willful (meaning you genuinely didn't know about the requirement). This program allows you to get compliant without facing the usual penalties. One thing to watch out for: if you have any Mexican bank accounts, retirement accounts, or investment accounts, make sure you understand the FBAR reporting requirements. This is separate from your tax filing but equally important. The paperwork can seem overwhelming at first, but once you get through the initial catch-up filing, the annual process becomes much more routine. Don't let the stress get to you - with your income level and circumstances, this is very manageable.

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This is incredibly reassuring - thank you so much for sharing your experience! I've been losing sleep over this for weeks thinking I was going to owe thousands in penalties or double taxation. Knowing that someone else went through the exact same discovery process and came out fine really helps. I do have a couple of Mexican bank accounts (checking and a small savings account), so I'll definitely need to look into the FBAR requirements. The fact that it's separate from tax filing is good to know - I probably would have missed that completely. The Streamlined Filing Compliance Procedures sound like exactly what I need. Is there a specific form or process to start that, or do I just file the back returns and indicate it was non-willful? Also, did you end up using a professional or handle it yourself? I'm trying to decide if this is something I can tackle on my own or if I should get expert help. Really appreciate you taking the time to share this - it's making what felt like an impossible situation seem actually manageable!

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