How do US taxes work if I leave the country for several years? Tax obligations explained
I'm planning to leave the US next year for work and potentially stay abroad for several years. I'm really confused about how my tax obligations would work. If I move to another country and eventually try to get citizenship there, would I still have to pay taxes to the US while also paying taxes in my new country of residence? I'm worried about the legal implications too. Could I get in trouble with authorities in my new country if I continue paying US taxes but not their local taxes? Or would I get deported for not filing US returns? And what happens tax-wise if I decide to move back to the US after a few years abroad? I've heard the US tax system follows Americans everywhere, but I don't understand how it actually works in practice.
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Jungleboo Soletrain
The US tax system is unique because it's based on citizenship, not just residency. As a US citizen, you're required to file US tax returns no matter where in the world you live. Here's what you need to know: You'll likely need to file tax returns in both countries - your new country of residence (based on their local rules) and the US. However, there are measures to prevent double taxation. The Foreign Earned Income Exclusion (FEIE) allows you to exclude up to $126,500 (2025 amount) of foreign earnings from US taxation if you meet either the bona fide residence test or the physical presence test. Additionally, the Foreign Tax Credit lets you offset US taxes with taxes paid to foreign governments. There's also the Foreign Housing Exclusion for certain housing expenses abroad. Not filing US taxes won't get you deported from your new country - that's not how jurisdiction works. However, the US can impose penalties, interest, and potentially more serious consequences for non-compliance with US tax law. If you return to the US, you'll simply resume filing as a US resident. Any foreign accounts or investments will need continued reporting on forms like FBAR and FATCA.
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Rajan Walker
•Thank you for the detailed explanation! I'm in a similar situation but confused about those tests you mentioned. How exactly do the "bona fide residence test" and "physical presence test" work? And do I need to file even if I know I won't owe anything because my income will be lower than that exclusion amount?
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Jungleboo Soletrain
•The bona fide residence test requires you to establish that you've been a genuine resident of a foreign country for an uninterrupted period that includes an entire tax year. This is determined by examining factors like your intentions, housing arrangements, family location, and involvement in the community. The physical presence test is more straightforward - you must be physically present in a foreign country for at least 330 full days during a period of 12 consecutive months. And yes, you still need to file a US tax return even if you won't owe taxes due to the exclusions or credits. Filing is required to claim these benefits, and not filing can result in penalties regardless of whether you actually owe any tax.
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Nadia Zaldivar
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Lukas Fitzgerald
•That sounds helpful, but I'm curious - does it handle foreign retirement accounts? I'm planning to move to Germany and I've heard their pension system creates complications with US tax reporting.
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Ev Luca
•I'm skeptical about tax AI tools. How accurate was it compared to actual tax professionals? Did you double-check with a human accountant who specializes in expat taxes? Those specialized accountants charge a fortune but they know all the loopholes.
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Nadia Zaldivar
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Ev Luca
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Avery Davis
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Collins Angel
•Wait, how does this actually work? Do they somehow have a special line to the IRS? That doesn't seem possible since the IRS phone system is notoriously bad for everyone.
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Marcelle Drum
•This sounds like a complete scam. Nobody can "skip the line" with the IRS. The IRS is a government agency with standard phone systems. I've worked in tax preparation for years and there's absolutely no way to get priority access unless you're a tax professional with a dedicated practitioner line.
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Avery Davis
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Marcelle Drum
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Tate Jensen
Something important that hasn't been mentioned yet - even if you give up your US citizenship to avoid tax obligations, there's an "exit tax" if you meet certain criteria. If your net worth exceeds $2 million OR your average annual net income tax for the 5 years before expatriation exceeds a certain threshold (around $190,000 for 2025), you'll be considered a "covered expatriate" and potentially face significant exit taxes. The IRS essentially treats covered expatriates as if they sold all their worldwide assets the day before expatriation. Additionally, gifts or bequests from covered expatriates to US citizens/residents may be subject to special taxes. It's incredibly complex and requires careful planning.
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Adaline Wong
•Thanks for bringing this up! Do you know if there are any exceptions to these exit tax rules? For example, if someone was born with dual citizenship and hasn't lived much in the US as an adult?
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Tate Jensen
•Yes, there are exceptions to the exit tax for certain dual citizens. If you were born with dual citizenship in the US and another country, and you continue to be a citizen of that other country and are taxed as a resident there, you might qualify for an exception if you haven't been a US resident for more than 10 of the past 15 years. There's also an exception for people who became US citizens at birth but renounce before age 18½, provided they haven't been US residents for more than 10 years before the renunciation. These exceptions are specifically designed for people with limited connections to the US despite having citizenship through birth circumstances.
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Gabriel Ruiz
One thing nobody has mentioned is banking difficulties as an American abroad. Because of FATCA (Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act), many foreign banks refuse to take American customers or severely restrict their account options because of the reporting requirements imposed on them by the US government. I moved to France in 2022 and was rejected by three banks before finding one that would accept me as an American. Even then, I couldn't access certain investment products because they weren't compatible with US tax reporting requirements. It's frustrating because these restrictions don't apply to citizens of any other country except Eritrea (the only other country that taxes based on citizenship).
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Misterclamation Skyblue
•I experienced the exact same thing in Germany! So many investment opportunities I couldn't participate in because I'm American. Did you find any solutions? I've heard some people recommend setting up a local company structure but that seems complicated.
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Zoe Dimitriou
•@Misterclamation Skyblue I haven t'found great solutions honestly. The company structure route is expensive and adds complexity for tax reporting - you d'still need to report the company on various US forms. Some Americans I know have had better luck with private banks that cater to expats, but they usually require higher minimum balances. One workaround I discovered is focusing on US-domiciled ETFs through international brokers that accept Americans, rather than trying to access local investment products. The tax reporting is much simpler since they re'already US-compliant. It s'not ideal but at least it s'something. The banking discrimination is real and it s'one of those hidden costs of being an American abroad that nobody warns you about.
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PaulineW
As someone who's been living abroad for over 5 years, I want to emphasize how important it is to start planning your tax situation BEFORE you move. The complexity increases significantly once you're already established overseas. A few additional points that might help: 1. **State tax obligations** - Don't forget about your home state! Some states like California are notoriously aggressive about claiming you're still a resident for tax purposes even after you move abroad. Make sure you properly establish non-residency before leaving. 2. **Social Security and Medicare** - If you're paying into foreign social systems, understand how this affects your US Social Security benefits. Some countries have totalization agreements that can help, but others don't. 3. **Keep meticulous records** - Save everything! Foreign tax documents, proof of residence, bank statements, employment contracts. The IRS can ask for documentation going back several years, and getting copies of foreign documents later can be expensive and time-consuming. 4. **Consider professional help for your first year** - Even if you use AI tools or try to DIY later, having a qualified international tax professional handle your first year abroad can help you establish the right foundation and avoid costly mistakes early on. The good news is that once you understand the system and establish your filing routine, it becomes much more manageable. But those first couple of years can be overwhelming if you're not prepared.
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Christopher Morgan
•This is incredibly helpful advice, especially the point about state tax obligations! I'm planning my move to the UK next year and hadn't even considered that my home state might still try to claim me as a resident. What specific steps did you take to establish non-residency? Did you have to physically change your driver's license and voter registration before leaving, or can you handle that remotely? Also, when you mention totalization agreements for Social Security - does this mean I could potentially get credit toward UK pension benefits for my US work history, or is it the other way around?
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