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Is there any expiration on capital loss carryovers? I've been carrying some for almost 4 years now.
Nope! Capital losses can be carried forward indefinitely until they're used up. I've been carrying some losses for over 6 years now.
One thing I'd add to the great advice already shared - make sure you're applying your capital loss carryover in the correct order! The IRS requires you to use the oldest carryover losses first (FIFO - first in, first out). Since you had a $20,000 loss in 2022, that entire amount should be applied against your 2023 gains before you can use any losses from 2023 itself. This shouldn't affect your calculation (you'll still net $30,000), but it's important for record-keeping purposes. Also, double-check that you actually filed your 2022 return and properly reported that $20,000 loss. If for some reason it wasn't properly documented on your 2022 Schedule D, you might run into issues when the IRS processes your 2023 return. The carryover amount needs to have a paper trail from your previous filing.
Great point about the FIFO rule! I didn't know about that requirement. Quick question - if I had losses in both 2021 and 2022, do I need to apply the 2021 losses first even if I already used some of them in previous years? I'm trying to make sure I track everything correctly for my upcoming filing.
Whatever you do, DON'T ignore the notice! I made that mistake a couple years ago thinking it was a scam, and ended up with additional penalties and eventually had to deal with collections. The 30-day response window is really important. Also if you've moved recently, make sure to file Form 8822 to update your address with the IRS. I learned this the hard way when notices were going to my old address and I never received them.
What tax software do ppl recommend that might help avoid these issues in the first place? I've been using the free version of Credit Karma Tax but now I'm worried it might be missing things.
I've had good experiences with FreeTaxUSA. It's not as well-known as TurboTax or H&R Block, but it's much cheaper and still walks you through everything really thoroughly. The federal filing is free and state is like $15. It specifically asks about less common income sources that other software sometimes glosses over.
I went through this exact same panic when I got my first CP2000 notice! Here's what I learned: First, verify it's legitimate by checking that all your personal info is correct and comparing it against what you have on file with the IRS. Real CP2000 notices will have your correct SSN, name, and address. Next, gather all your 2023 tax documents - your filed return, all 1099s, W-2s, and any other income documents. The most common cause of CP2000 notices is that a business or bank reported income to the IRS that didn't make it onto your return, or it was reported differently than expected. Don't rush to pay! Take the full 30 days to review everything carefully. If you find you did make an error, you can often set up a payment plan. If you believe the IRS is wrong, you can dispute it with documentation. Either way, responding within 30 days is crucial to avoid additional penalties. Consider consulting a tax professional if the amount is significant or if you're unsure about how to respond. Many will do a consultation for a reasonable fee and can help you navigate the response process properly.
This is really helpful advice! I'm actually dealing with my first CP2000 notice right now and was feeling overwhelmed. The part about taking the full 30 days to review everything is reassuring - I was worried I needed to respond immediately. One question though - when you mention consulting a tax professional, do you have any recommendations for finding someone reputable? I'm worried about getting overcharged or finding someone who doesn't really know what they're doing with these specific notices.
Hey @dd94b24c0ab6! I totally understand your anxiety - I was in the exact same boat last month! š The good news is that you're not alone in this. The IRS has been rolling out online notifications before the physical letters arrive, so what you're experiencing is actually pretty normal right now. I'd recommend logging into your IRS online account and looking for the identity verification prompt. You can safely proceed with the ID.me verification process even without the letter - it's completely legitimate and will actually get your return processed faster than waiting for the mail. One tip: make sure you have your previous year's tax return info handy, along with a valid photo ID. The process is pretty straightforward once you get started. Don't let the anxiety get to you - you've got this! šŖ Keep us posted on how it goes!
@f366a76b92d6 Thanks for the encouragement! Just wanted to add my experience for @dd94b24c0ab6 - I was terrified about doing the ID.me verification without the letter too, but it turned out to be totally fine. The key thing that helped me feel more confident was double-checking that I was on the official IRS.gov website (not clicking any links from emails). One small tip that might help with the anxiety: screenshot each step as you go through the verification process. It gave me peace of mind to have a record of what I did, and if anything went wrong, I'd have proof of my attempt. Also @dd94b24c0ab6, if you're still feeling unsure, you could always try calling the IRS first thing in the morning (like 7 AM) when wait times are usually shorter, just to confirm this is legit for your specific case. But honestly, based on everyone's experiences here, you should be good to proceed online! š¤
I just went through this exact situation two weeks ago! š The anxiety is totally understandable, but I can confirm that proceeding with online verification without the letter is completely safe and normal right now. Here's what worked for me: I logged into my IRS account, saw the verification request, and went ahead with ID.me even though no letter had arrived. The whole process took about 25 minutes - uploaded my driver's license, did the video selfie (which felt awkward but was quick), and answered some basic questions about my 2023 return. My verification was approved within 6 hours, and my refund was processed 2 days later. The physical letter? It showed up in my mailbox a full 10 days AFTER my refund hit my bank account! š¬ Pro tip: Do the verification during off-peak hours if possible (early morning or late evening) - the ID.me system runs faster with less traffic. And definitely bookmark your progress as you go through each step. You've got this! The system is actually working better than ever, despite the timing confusion with the letters. Let us know how it goes! š
@1594b71af970 This is such helpful reassurance! I'm actually dealing with this right now too and was hesitating to proceed without the letter. Your timeline really puts things in perspective - 6 hours for approval and refund in 2 days is amazing! Quick question: when you did the video selfie part, did you have any issues with lighting or camera quality? I'm worried my phone camera might not be good enough and I don't want to mess up the process. Also, did you need to have any specific documents beyond your driver's license? @dd94b24c0ab6 - seeing all these success stories should definitely help ease your anxiety. Sounds like this is just the new normal and we're all figuring it out together! š
I went through this exact same situation last year when I switched from TurboTax to a professional accountant! I was so nervous about signing Form 2848 that I actually postponed my first appointment because I wasn't sure if it was legitimate. What helped me feel more confident was learning that Form 2848 is actually an official IRS form - you can even find it directly on the IRS website. It's specifically designed to create a clear legal framework between taxpayers and their representatives. The form has built-in protections and limitations that prevent accountants from overstepping their bounds. One thing that really put my mind at ease was asking my accountant to show me examples of how they'd use the authorization. They explained that it's mainly for things like requesting tax transcripts, responding to IRS notices on my behalf, or calling the IRS if there are questions about my return. Without it, I'd have to handle all of those interactions myself, which honestly sounds way more stressful! Since you mentioned this is your first year with this accountant, I'd definitely recommend limiting the scope to just 2024 and maybe one or two previous years if relevant to your current situation. You can always modify it later once you've built more trust. The banking password situation you mentioned is such a red flag - you absolutely made the right call walking away from that! The fact that your current accountant is using the proper IRS form actually shows they're following professional standards, which is exactly what you want.
Thank you for sharing your experience! I really appreciate you mentioning that Form 2848 is available directly on the IRS website - I'm definitely going to look it up there to familiarize myself with it before my next meeting with my accountant. Your idea to ask for examples of how they'd actually use the authorization is brilliant! I think that would really help me understand the practical implications rather than just the legal language. Hearing you describe it in terms of handling IRS notices and phone calls on my behalf makes it sound much less scary and much more helpful. I'm definitely leaning toward limiting it to just 2024 for now, exactly like you suggested. It sounds like that's a common approach for people in my situation, and knowing I can expand it later takes the pressure off making a "perfect" decision right now. It's so validating to hear again that the banking password request was definitely sketchy - that whole experience really made me second-guess my instincts about what's normal in this industry. But hearing from so many people that using the official IRS form is actually a sign of professionalism has completely flipped my perspective. I'm feeling much more confident about moving forward now. Thanks for taking the time to share your story!
I'm really glad you posted this question because I had the exact same concerns when I started working with my first professional accountant! The Form 2848 Power of Attorney is absolutely standard practice - I was initially freaked out by the "power of attorney" terminology too, but it's really just a way for your accountant to communicate with the IRS on your behalf. What made me feel better was understanding that this form is very limited in scope. It only covers tax matters, not your general finances or banking. And you have complete control over what years and forms it covers - you don't have to authorize everything if you're not comfortable with that. Since this is your first year working together, I'd suggest limiting the authorization to just 2024 and the specific forms related to your current tax situation (like your 1040). You can always expand it later if you're happy with their service. The form also clearly states that you can revoke the authorization at any time by filing Form 2848-R with the IRS. Your instincts about that previous accountant wanting banking passwords were spot-on - that's definitely not normal practice and you were smart to walk away. The fact that your current accountant is using the official IRS form actually shows they're following proper professional procedures. Don't hesitate to ask your accountant to walk through the form with you section by section before you sign it. Any reputable professional will be happy to explain exactly what they can and cannot do with this authorization. Being cautious about legal documents is always smart!
This is such a helpful thread! I'm actually going through something similar right now - just hired my first professional tax preparer after years of doing everything myself through TurboTax. When they mentioned the Form 2848, I had the same initial panic moment of "wait, am I giving someone too much power over my finances?" But reading through everyone's experiences here has been incredibly reassuring. I love the suggestion to limit it to just 2024 for the first year - that feels like a perfect way to test the waters while still giving them what they need to help me effectively. I'm also planning to ask them to walk through each section with me before signing. It sounds like that's not only normal but actually expected from responsible clients. Thanks to everyone who shared their experiences - this community is so helpful for navigating these kinds of situations!
MidnightRider
Has anyone else noticed that these tax relief commercials are ALWAYS on during daytime TV? They specifically target people who are home during work hours (often because of unemployment or disability) and who might be financially vulnerable. It's predatory marketing at its finest.
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Andre Laurent
ā¢YES! And they always have some "former IRS agent" talking about how they know "secret programs" that can eliminate tax debt. There are no secret programs! All IRS resolution options are publicly available on irs.gov. It's just marketing to make you think they have special access.
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Bethany Groves
I'm sorry you're going through this with Optima Tax Relief. What you're describing sounds exactly like what happened to my neighbor last year. She paid them over $4,000 and after 8 months of runaround, she ended up resolving her tax issues herself in about 3 weeks by calling the IRS directly. For getting your refund, document everything - save all emails, call logs, and your original contract. Send them a certified letter demanding a refund based on failure to provide services. If they ignore it, file complaints with your state attorney general, BBB, and FTC. Also check if you can do a chargeback with your bank or credit card company. The harsh truth is that most of what these companies promise to do, you can do yourself for free. The IRS actually has taxpayer advocates who will help you navigate their system at no cost. Don't let them take advantage of you any longer - you have options and you're not powerless in this situation.
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Alberto Souchard
ā¢This is really helpful advice, thank you. I'm new to dealing with tax issues and didn't realize the IRS has taxpayer advocates. Where do I find them? Is this something I can access online or do I need to call? I'm worried about getting overwhelmed by the IRS system but it sounds like it might be better than dealing with these companies that just take your money.
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