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Oliver Zimmermann

I'm a US citizen living and working abroad. What should I do about US taxes while working in South Korea?

Hey everyone, I'm in a bit of a confusing situation with taxes and hoping for some clarity. I have dual citizenship with the US and South Korea. I've been living and working in Seoul for the past 4 years as a Korean citizen, and I've been paying all my taxes to the South Korean government as required. The thing is, I haven't been filing or paying any taxes to the US during this time. I honestly didn't think I needed to since I'm not living or earning there. I'm planning to visit my family in California next month using my US passport, and now I'm worried... Will I get in trouble at the border for not filing US taxes all these years? I've tried researching online about tax obligations for Americans abroad, but everything I read just makes me more confused about what I should be doing. Do I need to backfile? Pay penalties? Am I even required to file if I don't live in the US? Any insights from people who've dealt with this would be super helpful. Thanks!

As someone who's worked with expats on tax issues for years, I can tell you that yes, US citizens are required to file US tax returns regardless of where they live or work in the world. The US is one of the few countries that taxes based on citizenship rather than residency. The good news is that you probably won't be detained at the border just for not filing taxes. Immigration and tax enforcement are separate systems that don't typically cross-check during entry. However, you should start getting compliant as soon as possible. Look into the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion (FEIE), which allows you to exclude up to about $120,000 of foreign earnings from US taxation for 2024. There's also the Foreign Tax Credit, which gives you credit for taxes paid to South Korea. Between these two options, many expats end up owing little to no US tax, but you still need to file.

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Javier Torres

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Thanks for the info! I'm in a similar situation but in Germany. For the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion, do you need to have been outside the US for the entire tax year? And what forms do you need to file for this?

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You have two ways to qualify for the FEIE: the Physical Presence Test requires you to be physically present in a foreign country for at least 330 full days during a 12-month period, or the Bona Fide Residence Test which applies if you've established a true residence in a foreign country for an entire tax year. To claim the FEIE, you'll need to file Form 1040 (the standard US tax return) along with Form 2555 for the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion. If you're claiming Foreign Tax Credits instead of or in addition to the FEIE, you'd also need Form 1116.

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Emma Davis

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CosmicCaptain

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Did you have to file returns for all the previous years you missed? I've been in Australia for 6 years and never filed... getting worried now.

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Malik Johnson

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How did it determine which forms you needed? I've got income from both US investments and my job in Singapore, and I'm completely lost about what I need to submit.

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Emma Davis

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The Streamlined Procedures usually require filing 3 years of back tax returns and 6 years of FBAR reports (if you have foreign bank accounts over $10,000). I was in a similar situation with about 4 missed years, and that's all I needed to file to become compliant. The system asks detailed questions about your income sources, residence history, bank accounts, etc. In my case, I had some US dividend income along with my Japanese salary, and it correctly identified that I needed Schedule B for the dividends, Form 2555 for the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion, and Form 8938 for my Japanese accounts. It even explained when the Foreign Tax Credit (Form 1116) would be better than the FEIE based on my situation.

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Omar Zaki

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One important thing nobody's mentioned yet - if your South Korean bank accounts total over $10,000 at any point during the year, you need to file an FBAR (FinCEN Form 114). The penalties for not filing this can be MUCH worse than not filing your actual tax returns! Also, look into whether you need to file Form 8938 (Statement of Foreign Financial Assets) depending on how much you have in foreign accounts. The thresholds are different depending on whether you're filing single or married, and whether you're living abroad.

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Thanks for bringing this up! I do have accounts in Korea that exceed $10,000. How far back would I need to file these FBAR forms? And is this something I can do myself, or should I get professional help?

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Omar Zaki

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Under the Streamlined Procedures, you would need to file FBARs for the last 6 years. The form itself isn't too complicated - it's filed electronically through the FinCEN BSA e-filing system, not with your tax return. You can definitely do it yourself if you're comfortable with it. You'll need your account numbers, the name and address of the financial institution, the maximum value during the year for each account, and the type of account. Many expats handle this themselves, but if you have a complex financial situation or lots of accounts, professional help might make sense just for peace of mind.

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AstroAce

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Could you guys clarify something about the tax treaty between US and South Korea? I heard there's a "saving clause" that basically negates a lot of the benefits for US citizens. Is that true?

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Yes, that's correct. Most US tax treaties contain a "saving clause" that allows the US to tax its citizens as if parts of the treaty don't exist. This means that as a US citizen, you can't use most treaty provisions to reduce your US tax liability. However, there are usually exceptions to the saving clause. For example, the treaty might still protect you from double taxation on Social Security benefits or certain pension income. But for regular employment income, you'll generally need to rely on the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion or Foreign Tax Credit rather than treaty provisions.

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I went through almost the exact same situation when I was working in Seoul! The stress about potential border issues is real, but I can confirm you won't have problems entering the US. CBP doesn't check tax compliance during entry. That said, you definitely need to get compliant ASAP. I was about 5 years behind on filing when I finally dealt with it. The key things that helped me: 1. Used the Streamlined Filing Compliance Procedures - no penalties if your non-filing wasn't willful (sounds like your case) 2. Filed 3 years of back tax returns using Form 2555 for the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion 3. Filed 6 years of FBARs for my Korean bank accounts Since you've been paying Korean taxes, you'll likely owe little to nothing to the US thanks to the FEIE. The exclusion amount for 2024 is around $120,000, so unless you're earning significantly more than that, you should be covered. Don't put this off though - the longer you wait, the more complicated it gets. Start gathering your Korean tax documents and employment records now. You'll need them to prove your foreign residence and income for the exclusion.

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Caden Turner

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This is incredibly helpful! I'm actually in a very similar situation - been in Tokyo for 3 years and just realized I should have been filing US taxes this whole time. Quick question about the Streamlined procedures: do you remember roughly how long the whole process took from start to finish? And did you need to get certified translations of your Korean tax documents, or were the originals sufficient for the IRS?

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