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Dylan Wright

Do I have to file US taxes while living in Canada with no income?

So I've been living in Canada for the past few years and I'm confused about my US tax obligations. Before moving, I rarely made enough money to file taxes in the US, and when I was unemployed I didn't file at all. I moved to Canada about 3 years ago with my husband and kids. When we immigrated, our lawyer never mentioned anything about US tax requirements, and honestly, it never crossed my mind. I have some health issues that prevent me from working, so I've been a stay-at-home mom since we moved here. I recently saw something online about US citizens needing to file taxes regardless of where they live. This has me really worried! I've never had a job in Canada and have zero income personally. I do file Canadian taxes with my husband to receive child benefits and family tax credits, but that's all. So my question is: Even though I live in Canada now, have no income whatsoever, and haven't filed US taxes since moving here, am I still required to submit paperwork to the IRS showing I have no income? Do I need to worry about being in trouble with the US government? Should I hire someone to help sort this out?

NebulaKnight

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Yes, US citizens and permanent residents are required to file US tax returns regardless of where they live in the world. This is because the US has a citizenship-based taxation system rather than a residence-based system like most countries. However, there are some income thresholds that determine whether you actually need to file. For 2024 (filing in 2025), if you're married filing separately (which most US expats in Canada do), you need to file if your income is at least $5 (yes, five dollars). If you truly have zero income, technically you should still file, though many people in your situation don't. There are also FBAR requirements if you have foreign bank accounts that exceed $10,000 total across all accounts at any point during the year. This is separate from tax filing.

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Dylan Wright

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Thank you for your response! This is really concerning to hear. So even though I've had zero income for the past 3 years, I technically should have been filing? Does this mean I'm in trouble with the IRS now? Also, what's an FBAR exactly?

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NebulaKnight

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You might need to file for previous years, but don't panic! The IRS has procedures for people who didn't know they needed to file. Since you have zero income, you likely won't owe any taxes, which makes your situation much simpler. The FBAR (Foreign Bank Account Report) is a form you file with FinCEN if you have foreign accounts totaling over $10,000 at any point during the year. It's just an informational form - no taxes are calculated on it. But penalties for not filing can be steep, so it's important to get caught up if needed.

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Dmitry Popov

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Does this service actually help with past unfiled years? I'm in a similar situation but I'm 6 years behind on US filings while living in Australia. I'm worried about penalties.

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Ava Rodriguez

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I'm skeptical about these tax AI services. How did it handle your bank accounts? Did it help with FBAR filings too? That's the part that worries me most about being an expat.

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Sofia Ramirez

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QuantumQuest

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Connor Murphy

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Something important that hasn't been mentioned yet - look into the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion (Form 2555) and Foreign Tax Credit (Form 1116). Even if you don't have income now, if you ever do start working in Canada, these forms can help prevent double taxation. The FEIE lets you exclude up to about $120,000 of foreign earned income from US taxes, while the Foreign Tax Credit gives you US tax credit for taxes paid to Canada. Most US expats in Canada end up not owing any US tax because Canadian tax rates are generally higher, but you still have to file the paperwork.

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Yara Haddad

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Do these exclusions and credits apply to investment income too? I have some stocks and retirement accounts in both US and Canada.

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Connor Murphy

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No, the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion only applies to income you earn from working (like a salary or self-employment). Investment income like dividends, interest, or capital gains isn't covered. For investment income, you would use the Foreign Tax Credit instead. This gives you credit on your US taxes for any tax you paid to Canada on that investment income. The tax treaty between the US and Canada also determines which country has primary taxing rights for different types of income, which can get complicated with retirement accounts.

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Has anyone used TurboTax or H&R Block for filing US taxes from Canada? I'm wondering if the regular versions work or if I need something special for expat taxes.

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Paolo Conti

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I've used TurboTax but you need the premium version to file foreign income and exclusions. It's a bit pricey and doesn't handle some of the more complex expat situations well. I switched to using a specialized expat tax service last year.

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I was in a very similar situation a few years ago - US citizen living in the UK with no income for several years due to health issues. The anxiety about being "in trouble" with the IRS was really overwhelming! Here's what I learned: Yes, technically you should file even with zero income, but the IRS is generally understanding about people who genuinely didn't know about the requirement, especially when no taxes are owed. The key is getting compliant going forward. Since you have no income, you likely qualify for the Streamlined Filing Compliance Procedures, which is designed for people in exactly your situation. You'll need to file the last 3 years of tax returns (even if showing zero income) and 6 years of FBARs if you have Canadian bank accounts over $10k. The good news is that with zero income, you won't owe any taxes or penalties. I'd recommend getting professional help just to make sure everything is filed correctly and to give you peace of mind. Don't let the anxiety eat at you - this is much more common than you think and very fixable!

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Thank you so much for sharing your experience! It's really reassuring to hear from someone who went through the exact same situation. The anxiety has been keeping me up at night ever since I found out about this requirement. Can I ask - when you filed under the Streamlined Filing Compliance Procedures, did you need to provide any documentation about why you didn't know about the filing requirement? I'm worried about having to prove that our immigration lawyer never mentioned it or that I genuinely had no idea. Also, you mentioned getting professional help - did you use a regular tax preparer or someone who specializes in expat taxes? I'm in a small Canadian town and I doubt the local H&R Block would know much about US expat requirements.

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