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Another thing to check - make sure you're looking at the right numbers on TurboTax. Sometimes people look at the total tax WITHHELD (what came out of your paychecks) and mistake that for their expected refund. Your refund is just the difference between what you owed and what was already withheld. Double-check your TurboTax summary to make sure you're looking at the "refund" line and not something else.

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I just double-checked my TurboTax summary and I was definitely looking at the refund amount. My federal refund was supposed to be $5,890 but I only got $3,381. Still waiting on the state portion. Guess I'll have to wait for that letter to find out what happened (if it ever gets forwarded to my new address).

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Rhett Bowman

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Don't panic - this is actually pretty common! The $2,500+ difference between what TurboTax calculated and what you received suggests the IRS made adjustments to your return. Since this is your first time filing, there are a few likely culprits: 1. **Earned Income Tax Credit (EITC)** - If TurboTax calculated this credit but you didn't actually qualify based on your specific situation, the IRS would remove it 2. **Education credits** - These have strict eligibility requirements that software sometimes misses 3. **Filing status** - If there was any confusion about whether you can file as independent vs. dependent The good news is that you should receive a detailed notice (CP2000 or similar) explaining exactly what they changed and why. Since you moved, definitely contact USPS about mail forwarding ASAP, or create an online IRS account to access your records digitally. Your state refund will come separately - that part is totally normal. Each state processes at their own pace, so don't worry if it takes several more weeks. Focus on getting that IRS explanation letter first to understand the federal adjustment!

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Amun-Ra Azra

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I've been preparing taxes for friends and family for over 10 years, and this is a very common misunderstanding. Your federal and state returns are completely separate systems. Many people don't realize that the IRS (federal) and your state's department of revenue are entirely different agencies with different rules, forms, and processing systems. They do share information eventually, but an error on one doesn't automatically affect the other. If your federal return was accepted, it's in process regardless of what happens with your state return. The only time you'd need to worry is if the information you provided on both returns contradicts each other significantly.

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Hey Muhammad! I totally get the stress - tax season as a new grad is already overwhelming enough! šŸ˜… Just wanted to echo what everyone else is saying: your federal return is completely safe! Think of it this way - the IRS and your state tax agency are like two different companies that don't share the same computer system. Your federal acceptance has nothing to do with your state error. Since you're just starting out with taxes, here's a pro tip for the future: always double-check your state info before hitting submit, especially things like state ID numbers or addresses. TurboTax is usually pretty good about catching errors, but it can't catch everything. While you're waiting for that state letter, you can track your federal refund progress using the IRS "Where's My Refund" tool. It should show up there within a few days of acceptance. Hang in there - you've got this! šŸ’Ŗ

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Malik Johnson

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anyone else notice the treasury checks coming faster this year? Got mine in 3 days flat

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facts! they must have upgraded their systems or sumthin

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Rosie Harper

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Same situation here! April 1st mail date on my transcript too. From what I've seen in this community, most people get their checks 3-5 days after the mail date. The USPS informed delivery tip from @Javier Torres is clutch - you'll literally see a photo of your check in the mail before it arrives. Takes some of the anxiety away knowing it's actually coming!

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Tony Brooks

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Thanks @Rosie Harper! That's really reassuring to hear. I just signed up for informed delivery after seeing Javier's suggestion - hopefully that'll help me track it better. The waiting is honestly the worst part of this whole process šŸ˜…

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Ella Knight

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For anyone filing internationally, ALWAYS keep copies of EVERYTHING you send to the IRS! I learned this the hard way when my return got "lost" after being delivered. When I finally got through to the IRS, they had no record of receiving it even though tracking showed delivery. I had to resend all my documents with proof of the original delivery date. The whole process took 5 months before I got my refund. Paper returns from overseas are definitely not processed with any urgency.

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This happened to me too! Did you have to pay any penalties because of their mistake? My return was delivered according to USPS tracking, but when I finally reached someone at the IRS, they said they never received it and I might face late filing penalties!

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International returns are definitely a headache! I had a similar experience filing from the UK last year. The Where's My Refund tool on IRS.gov is 100% legitimate and safe - it's the official IRS website and they absolutely need your SSN to verify your identity before showing your refund status. One thing I learned: the tracking updates for international returns are really sparse. Mine showed "Return Received" for literally 10 weeks before suddenly jumping to "Refund Approved." Don't panic if you don't see movement for months - that's unfortunately normal for paper returns from abroad. Also, make sure you're checking the tool with the exact refund amount you claimed on your return. Even being off by a dollar will prevent it from finding your information. The system is pretty picky about matching all three pieces: SSN, filing status, and exact refund amount. Hang in there - $3,800 is definitely worth the wait, even if the process is frustrating!

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Amended return shows negative account balance of $1,789 - What does code 291 ($2,592 tax reduction) mean for my refund status?

Finally seeing some movement on my amended return that I submitted in September 2024. Been checking my transcript religiously for months with no updates until now. The original amendment was forwarded for processing in September, then there was some internal amendment in November 2024 that I had nothing to do with. Now my transcript shows a new entry from Feb 17, 2025 with code 291 "Reduced or removed prior tax assessed" for $2,592.00. My account transcript shows: ACCOUNT BALANCE: -1,789.00 ACCRUED INTEREST: 0.00 AS OF: Mar. 17, 2025 ACCRUED PENALTY: 0.00 AS OF: Mar. 17, 2025 ACCOUNT BALANCE PLUS ACCRUALS (this is not a payoff amount): -1,789.00 My filing information shows: EXEMPTIONS: 03 FILING STATUS: Head of Household ADJUSTED GROSS INCOME: 55,804.00 TAXABLE INCOME: 35,004.00 TAX PER RETURN: 3,300.00 SE TAXABLE INCOME TAXPAYER: 0.00 SE TAXABLE INCOME SPOUSE: 0.00 TOTAL SELF EMPLOYMENT TAX: 0.00 RETURN DUE DATE OR RETURN RECEIVED DATE (WHICHEVER IS LATER): Apr. 15, 2024 PROCESSING DATE: May 13, 2024 The transaction history is quite long: TRANSACTIONS CODE EXPLANATION OF TRANSACTION CYCLE DATE AMOUNT 150 Tax return filed 20241705 05-13-2024 $3,300.00 32221-450-16071-4 806 W-2 or 1099 withholding 04-15-2024 -$1,786.00 766 Credit to your account 04-15-2024 -$4,751.00 766 Credit to your account 04-15-2024 -$5,297.00 810 Refund freeze 04-25-2024 $0.00 971 Amended tax return or claim 10-14-2024 $0.00 forwarded for processing 977 Amended return filed 10-14-2024 $0.00 43277-690-02699-4 971 Amended tax return or claim 12-31-2024 $0.00 forwarded for processing 977 Amended return filed 12-31-2024 $0.00 83277-422-55125-5 767 Reduced or removed credit to your 04-15-2024 $5,297.00 account 767 Reduced or removed credit to your 04-15-2024 $4,751.00 account 766 Credit to your account 04-15-2024 -$711.00 291 Reduced or removed prior tax 03-17-2025 -$2,592.00 assessed 19254-452-05775-5 I can see there was originally a refund freeze (code 810) placed on 04-25-2024. Then I submitted my amended return which was forwarded for processing on 10-14-2024. Then somehow there was another amended return filed on 12-31-2024 that I didn't initiate. It looks like they reduced some credits earlier (the two code 767 entries for $5,297.00 and $4,751.00), but now they've reduced my tax assessed by $2,592.00 (code 291). My account balance shows -$1,789.00 but still no refund date. Can anyone tell me what this negative balance means and when I might see my refund? Does the -$1,789.00 mean I'm getting that amount back? Will they issue this automatically or do I need to call the IRS about it?

You're absolutely on the right track! The negative account balance of -$1,789 is exactly what you'll be getting back as a refund. That code 291 reducing your tax by $2,592 means the IRS has accepted your amended return and adjusted your tax liability downward - which is great news! The internal amendment from November that you didn't file is completely normal. The IRS often processes complex amendments in multiple stages, so they'll create internal adjustments as they work through your changes. Nothing to worry about there. Now you're just waiting for the final step - code 846 "Refund Issued" to appear on your transcript with a specific date. Once that shows up, your money will be direct deposited on that exact date. Based on similar cases I've seen, this usually happens within 1-3 weeks after the 291 code appears. Keep checking your transcript weekly (daily checking will just drive you crazy!). After 5 months of waiting, you're finally in the home stretch. The hardest part is over - the IRS has processed your amendment and approved your refund. Now it's just a matter of the system generating that final 846 code.

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This is super helpful! I'm new to dealing with amended returns and all these codes have been so confusing. It's really reassuring to know that the -$1,789 balance is actually what I'm getting back. I was worried it meant something was wrong with my return! I'll definitely stick to checking weekly instead of daily - you're right that checking constantly just makes the waiting worse. Thank you for explaining about the 846 code too. I'll be watching for that next. After 5 months of stress and confusion, it feels amazing to finally understand what's happening and know I'm almost done with this process! šŸ™

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Jamal Wilson

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That negative account balance is exactly what you want to see! The -$1,789 means the IRS owes you that amount. I went through something very similar last year with my amended return - saw the 291 code appear and then waited about 2.5 weeks before the 846 refund issued code showed up. The internal amendment from November is totally normal - the IRS often processes amendments in stages internally. Nothing you need to worry about there. One thing to keep in mind: even though your account shows the credit balance, there could still be systemic holds or reviews happening in the background. The 810 refund freeze from April might still need to be fully cleared, but often the amendment processing takes care of those automatically. Your next step is watching for code 846 with a specific date. Once that appears, you can count on getting your money on that exact date if you have direct deposit set up. The waiting is brutal but you're definitely in the final phase now!

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Jibriel Kohn

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This is so helpful to hear from someone who's been through the same process! The 2.5 week timeline after the 291 code gives me hope that I won't be waiting much longer. I had no idea that the internal amendment processing could automatically clear other holds like that 810 freeze - that makes me feel a lot better about not getting any letters about it. I'm definitely going to focus on watching for that 846 code now. Thank you for the reassurance that I'm finally in the final phase after all these months of uncertainty! šŸ¤ž

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