Converting a C corp to an S corp using a QSub election for earnings distribution?

This is actually a great question, but unfortunately what you're considering wouldn't work the way you hope. When you make a QSub election for a C corporation, it's treated as a liquidation of the C corporation for tax purposes. All those accumulated earnings would be deemed distributed to the S corporation parent during that deemed liquidation. The problem is this triggers what's called the "built-in gains tax" on the C corporation's appreciated assets and also triggers tax on the accumulated earnings. The conversion itself is a taxable event - there's no way around it. You'd essentially be paying tax twice - once at the corporate level on the deemed liquidation and again at your personal level when you take distributions from the S corporation. The IRS specifically designed these rules to prevent exactly this kind of tax avoidance strategy.

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Have you considered a Section 1368(e)(3) election instead? If your S corporation (after election) has accumulated earnings and profits from its C corporation days, you could potentially make this election to treat distributions as coming from the accumulated adjustments account (AAA) first, then from accumulated E&P. Might be worth discussing with your tax advisor.

Just wondering - have any of you used software like TaxAct or TurboTax Business for handling the actual filing process for these complex entity changes? I tried last year and the software couldn't handle it properly. Ended up having to hire a CPA anyway.

Leslie, I went through something very similar when I inherited my father's C corp a few years ago. The QSub route you're considering is unfortunately a non-starter - as others have mentioned, it triggers immediate taxation on all the accumulated earnings through the deemed liquidation. What ended up working for my situation was a carefully timed straight C-to-S election on the original corporation, followed by strategic distributions over several years to minimize the tax hit. The key was understanding the ordering rules for S corp distributions and planning around the built-in gains tax period. One thing I learned the hard way is that you absolutely need to get professional advice on this - the tax implications are complex and the penalties for getting it wrong are severe. The accumulated earnings tax alone could be brutal if not handled properly. I'd strongly recommend getting a ruling request from the IRS for your specific situation before making any elections. Also, don't overlook simpler alternatives like taking reasonable compensation as an employee of the C corp or exploring whether any of the earnings qualify for the reduced tax rates on qualified dividends. Sometimes the straightforward approach ends up being more cost-effective than complex restructuring schemes.