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Honestly, I think it depends on how much you value your time vs money. I make about the same as you ($150k) and I used to do my own taxes with crypto and rental properties. Spent probably 15-20 hours every year stressing and researching. Last year I paid a CPA $650 and it was the best money I've spent. He found some obscure deductions for my small business that I had no idea about, showed me how to better track crypto for this year, and I actually ended up with a bigger refund than when I did it myself. Plus, the peace of mind knowing someone who does this for a living has reviewed everything is worth it to me.
Did your CPA give you advice for the current tax year or just file last year's return? I'm considering one but want ongoing tax planning, not just filing help once a year.
My CPA definitely provided advice for the current year, which was one of the most valuable parts of working with him. After filing my previous year's return, we had a separate 30-minute call specifically focused on tax planning strategies for the current year. He suggested restructuring how I track business expenses, recommended setting up quarterly estimated payments to avoid penalties, and gave me a spreadsheet template for better tracking my crypto transactions throughout the year. Good CPAs view the relationship as ongoing tax optimization, not just a once-a-year filing service.
Anyone try those crypto-specific tax software options? I've been looking at Koinly and CoinTracker since they're supposed to be better than general tax software for handling crypto stuff. Wondering if those might be a middle ground between DIY and expensive CPA?
One thing to consider when looking for an online CPA is their familiarity with the tax laws in your specific state. I hired someone who was great with federal issues but missed some state-specific deductions that cost me quite a bit. Also, ask about their client portal and how secure it is. You'll be sharing a lot of sensitive financial documents, so security should be a priority. My CPA uses a really good encrypted system that makes me feel comfortable sharing documents online.
This is such a good point! I made this mistake last year with a CPA who didn't know about my state's special treatment of retirement income. Do you think it's better to find someone local who does online consultations or someone fully remote?
I've had better luck finding someone local who offers online services. They tend to know both the state and local tax situations better while still providing the convenience of remote meetings. A fully remote CPA can absolutely work too, especially if they specifically list your state as one they're familiar with. Just make sure to specifically ask about their experience with your state's tax laws during your initial consultation.
I've been using FreeTaxUSA for years and honestly don't see the point in paying for a CPA. It walks you through everything step by step and costs way less. Unless you have super complicated investments or something, it seems like overkill.
Tax software is fine for filing, but it doesn't help with actual tax planning throughout the year. A good CPA helps you make strategic decisions BEFORE tax time to minimize what you owe. Software just processes what already happened.
That's a fair point. I guess I was just thinking about the filing part and not the planning aspect. Maybe I should look into this too since I'm starting a side business this year and could probably use some guidance on how to set things up properly from the beginning.
Don't forget that if you're amending your federal return, you might need to amend your state return too! Each state has different deadlines for amendments. For example, California gives you 4 years instead of 3. I almost missed out on a state refund because I was only focused on the federal deadline.
Does anyone know if you have to wait for the IRS to process the federal amendment before filing the state amendment? Or can you do both at the same time?
You can generally file both federal and state amendments at the same time - you don't need to wait for the federal to be processed first. However, you should make sure the information matches on both amendments. Some states do want you to include a copy of your federal amendment with your state amendment, so have that ready when you prepare your state forms. And definitely check your specific state's deadline - while many follow the federal 3-year rule, quite a few have different timeframes that could work in your favor.
Has anyone actually had success getting the IRS to make an exception to the 3-year rule? I filed my 2019 return late (in 2021) because of personal issues during COVID, and I just realized I'm entitled to a refund but might be outside the window.
The only exception I know of is if you were physically or mentally unable to manage your financial affairs during that time. It's called "financial disability" and requires certification from a doctor. It's in Internal Revenue Code section 6511(h) if you want to look it up.
I've heard military members deployed in combat zones get extensions too, and there might be something for people in federally declared disaster areas. But from everything I've read, they're super strict about that 3-year limit for regular situations.
You might want to file a complaint with your state's board of accountancy. CPAs are licensed professionals and there are standards they have to meet. The fact that he admitted fault means he knows he screwed up badly. Also, check if your accountant has professional liability insurance. Most do, and this is EXACTLY what it's for. Don't let him off the hook by just paying the penalties - his insurance should cover the actual tax bill too since his error caused this problem.
Do you know if there's a time limit for filing these complaints? The taxes were from 2022 but we just found out about the error when we got the IRS notice last week. Also, how would I find out if he has liability insurance? He hasn't mentioned anything about insurance, just offered to pay the penalties.
The time limit for filing complaints with state boards of accountancy varies by state, but typically it's between 1-5 years from when the incident occurred or was discovered. Since you just found out about the error, you should still be well within the timeframe. You can directly ask the accountant if they have professional liability insurance (sometimes called errors and omissions insurance). Most legitimate accounting practices carry this coverage. If they're hesitant to answer, that's a red flag. You can also mention that you're considering filing a complaint with the state board - this often motivates professionals to reach out to their insurance carriers rather than risk disciplinary action or damage to their reputation.
Surprised nobody mentioned this, but you should file Form 843 with the IRS requesting abatement of penalties due to reasonable cause. Since you have proof the accountant had all docs and they admitted fault, you have a strong case. Include a letter from the accountant admitting the error. You still owe the taxes, but might get all penalties and interest removed. Also, file an amended return ASAP to stop additional interest from accruing.
Zoe Alexopoulos
You can also try going to your local IRS Taxpayer Assistance Center. You need to make an appointment first by calling 844-545-5640. When I had a similar issue last year, I finally just made an appointment and the person at the office helped me set up a payment plan on the spot. Took about 20 minutes once I was there. Just bring your ID and the letter showing what you owe.
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Jamal Carter
ā¢Do they accept payments right there at the office? Or do they just help you figure out how to pay? My payment is due really soon and I'm getting nervous about penalties.
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Zoe Alexopoulos
ā¢They don't actually accept payments directly at most locations, but they'll help you make the payment online while you're there. The IRS employee can bypass the normal verification requirements when you're in person with proper ID. They did this for me when I couldn't verify online. If your payment is due very soon, make sure to mention that when you call for an appointment. They sometimes have emergency slots for urgent cases. If you absolutely can't get an appointment before your due date, you might want to mail a check as a backup plan just to show you're trying to pay on time.
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Mei Liu
This may not be helpful after the fact, but for future reference if ur 18 and this is ur first time dealing with taxes, it's completely free to file ur taxes using several services if ur income is below like $73k. It's called "Free File" on the IRS website. I always use that and it saves the hassle of getting surprise letters later. The guided questions make it super easy and it keeps all ur records for next year.
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Liam O'Donnell
ā¢Not to be that person but this doesn't actually help OP with their current problem of paying taxes without previous returns. They already know how much they owe, they just need to pay it.
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