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Do I file as a Resident Alien or Dual-Status Alien after moving from US to Canada mid-2024?

I'm filing single for 2024 and trying to figure out my alien status. I've been a resident alien since 2022 (qualified through Substantial Presence Test) but not a US citizen or green card holder. In July 2024, I relocated to Canada through my company's internal transfer program. My income for 2024 looks like: - January-July (US): W2 wages, some US bank interest, and gains from stock/crypto investments - July-December (Canada): T4 earnings from Canadian employer, Canadian bank interest, plus continuing income from US stock/crypto investments I've been reading Publication 519 (Chapter 1) about Dual-Status Aliens and these points caught my attention: - "Last Year of Residency" section: "If you were a U.S. resident in 2023 but are not a U.S. resident during any part of 2024, you cease to be a U.S. resident on your residency termination date." - "Residency during the next year" section: "If you are a U.S. resident during any part of 2024 and you are a resident during any part of 2023, you will be treated as a resident through the end of 2023." Here's what I'm confused about: 1. If I decide to move back to the US in October 2025 (won't know until May 2025), do I file as a Resident Alien for 2024? 2. If I stay in Canada all of 2025, can I choose between filing as Dual-Status Alien vs Resident Alien for 2024? And what if I visit the US for vacation in 2025 - does that count as being a "U.S. resident during any part of 2024"? Thanks for any help making sense of this!

Mia Alvarez

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Just wanted to add a practical tip based on my experience: keep detailed records of your days in the US vs Canada. The substantial presence test is based on a formula: days in current year + 1/3 of days in previous year + 1/6 of days in year before that. When I moved to Canada, I thought brief trips back wouldn't count, but they do! Every day matters. I use an app to track my border crossings now because it got confusing fast. Also, the first year after moving is usually the most complicated tax year you'll have.

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What app do you use to track your travel days? I've been using a spreadsheet but it's getting messy, especially with some quick weekend trips back to the US to visit family.

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Mia Alvarez

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I use an app called "Travel Days Tracker" - it lets you log entries/exits by country and calculates your total days for tax purposes. Some people also use the Stride Tax app which has a location tracking feature that can automatically log when you cross borders. The spreadsheet works too, but I found having the app on my phone made it easier to log immediately when crossing borders. Whatever system you use, just be consistent. The IRS can request proof of your physical presence, and border crossing records can sometimes be incomplete.

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Don't forget about state residency rules! They're totally separate from federal rules and can be even more complicated. Some states like California are super aggressive about claiming you're still a resident. When I moved to Canada, I had to file a partial year California return even though I was considered a US resident alien for the full year on my federal return. Had to provide proof I'd actually established domicile in Canada (driver's license, housing lease, utility bills).

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Sophia Long

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This is a really good point. New York is just as bad as California. I moved to Toronto but kept an apartment in NYC that I use occasionally. NY claimed I was still a full-year resident even though I was physically in NY less than 90 days that year.

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Omar Fawaz

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To answer your TaxSlayer question - yes, they do support Form 1040-ES calculations, but in my experience their free version has limitations. The paid versions definitely support it properly. I'd suggest looking at the IRS Direct Pay website too - you can make estimated tax payments directly there without having to mail in the vouchers. Just select "Estimated Tax" as the payment type and the applicable tax year and quarter.

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Thanks for the info about TaxSlayer and IRS Direct Pay! I was wondering about making the payments online instead of mailing them. Does the Direct Pay system give you a confirmation that you can save for your records?

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Omar Fawaz

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Yes, the IRS Direct Pay system provides a confirmation number immediately after your payment processes. You can print this confirmation page or save it as a PDF. I recommend doing both and keeping a folder (digital or physical) for each tax year with all your payment confirmations. They also send a confirmation email if you provide your email address during the payment process. I personally save these emails in a dedicated tax folder in my email account for easy reference later.

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One thing nobody's mentioned - don't forget about your STATE estimated taxes too! Depending on where you live, your state might have similar requirements for quarterly payments. I got hit with penalties in my state even though I was paying federal quarterly taxes.

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Diego Vargas

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This is such an important point. I had the same thing happen in New York. Paid all my federal estimated taxes but completely forgot about state requirements. Ended up with almost $200 in penalties even though my actual state tax bill wasn't that high.

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Omar Zaki

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22 Have you considered electing S-Corp status for your LLC? That's what I did for my consulting business, and it can provide better tax treatment especially as your income grows. With an S-Corp election, you pay yourself a reasonable salary (W-2) and can take additional distributions that aren't subject to self-employment tax. Just make sure your salary is reasonable for your industry and work performed, or the IRS might question it.

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Omar Zaki

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1 I've heard about the S-Corp option but wasn't sure if it was worth the extra paperwork and compliance requirements. What income level do you think makes the S-Corp election worthwhile? And did you need to hire a specialized accountant to handle it?

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Omar Zaki

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22 Most tax professionals suggest considering S-Corp election when your business profit exceeds about $40,000-$50,000 annually. That's typically where the self-employment tax savings outweigh the additional costs of compliance. I did hire a specialized accountant because the S-Corp has more filing requirements including an annual 1120S corporate return. The costs run me about $1,200 annually for tax preparation, but I save around $4,000 in self-employment taxes, so it's definitely worth it. You'll also need to run regular payroll and maintain more formal business documentation, but the tax savings can be significant once your business is consistently profitable.

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Omar Zaki

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9 Has anyone here used TurboTax Self-Employed for this situation? I'm in the exact same boat with my consulting LLC, and wondering if the software handles this properly or if I need a CPA.

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Omar Zaki

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11 I used TurboTax Self-Employed last year for my single-member LLC with both 1099s and W-2 (I pay myself). It worked well and walked me through reporting the 1099 income on Schedule C, entering business expenses (including my salary to myself), and then separately entering my W-2. Just make sure you enter your salary as a wage expense on Schedule C - this is critical to avoid double taxation.

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Juan Moreno

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5 Not sure if this is relevant to your specific situation, but when I had school taxes sent to collections a few years back, I found out that my employer had misclassified my tax district. They had me assigned to the wrong school zone in their payroll system. Might be worth checking if something similar happened to you, especially if you've changed addresses recently or live near a school district boundary.

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Juan Moreno

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7 That's a really good point. I did move about 8 months ago but stayed with the same employer. How would I go about checking if they have me in the right district?

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Juan Moreno

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5 You should be able to check your pay stub to see which school district they have you listed under. Look for an abbreviation or code that indicates your tax district. Then compare that with the school district that's trying to collect from you. If they don't match, that's your problem right there. You can also ask your HR or payroll department directly what school district they have on file for you. If there's a mismatch, you might have grounds to dispute the collection fees since the error wasn't your fault.

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Juan Moreno

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23 Former payroll specialist here. Just wanted to add that in many states, school taxes are handled differently than regular income taxes. Depending on where you live, your employer might not actually be required to withhold school taxes at all. It varies widely by location. Some areas require quarterly estimated payments directly from residents, others have employers withhold it, and some include it as part of property tax rather than income tax. The system is frustratingly inconsistent, and many people don't realize they need to make these payments themselves until they get hit with a bill.

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Juan Moreno

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7 Well that explains why nobody told me about this when I started my job! So for future reference, how do I figure out what my school tax obligations are so this doesn't happen again? I definitely don't want another surprise bill.

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StarSailor

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Just an FYI - always double check that you're using the most current address. The IRS and state tax agencies occasionally change their mailing addresses or have different addresses for different types of payments. When in doubt, go directly to your state's department of revenue website (not third-party sites) for the most up-to-date information. For federal taxes, always use irs.gov.

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Is there a way to confirm that the IRS actually received your payment if you mail it? I'm always worried it will get lost in the mail and then I'll get hit with penalties even though I sent it on time.

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StarSailor

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Yes, there are a few ways to confirm the IRS received your payment. The most reliable is to send it via USPS Certified Mail with Return Receipt requested. This gives you proof of mailing and delivery. You can also check your tax account information online through the IRS website after a few weeks to see if the payment has been applied. If you included your phone number on your check, sometimes the IRS can locate your payment status if you call and ask about it, though that can take some time on the phone.

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Ava Garcia

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Has anyone else noticed that the IRS website info sometimes contradicts what their own agents tell you? Last year I got 3 different addresses from 3 different sources - the website, an agent on the phone, and the printed instructions. Ended up sending duplicate payments just to be safe lol

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Miguel Silva

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Yes!!! This happens to me every year and it's maddening. I've started taking screenshots of everything on the IRS website just so I can prove what they told me if there's ever an issue. The worst is when they update info mid tax season without any clear notification.

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