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Andre Lefebvre

Didn't file taxes for 3 years (2021-2023), need advice on handling back taxes and payment plans

So I'm in a bit of a mess with my taxes. About 3 years ago, I filed my return and ended up owing around $8,000 to the IRS. Life got really complicated after that, and I completely missed filing my taxes for 2022 and 2023. I know I messed up, but I want to fix this situation now. I need to file those back taxes and pay whatever I owe. I'm sure there are penalties and interest piling up, but I'm wondering if there's any way to get some of those reduced? Also, I definitely can't pay everything at once - are payment plans an option? I'm just a regular employee on salary (not self-employed or business owner) living in Texas. Not sure if that matters for my options. Any advice on how to approach this and get back into good standing with the IRS would be really appreciated. I'm stressed about this but ready to make it right.

Zoe Dimitriou

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You're doing the right thing by addressing this now rather than letting it continue. The IRS generally has more options for people who voluntarily come forward than those who wait until they're caught. First, you'll need to file all your missing returns ASAP. The IRS has a statute of limitations of 10 years for collecting tax debt, but that clock doesn't start until you file. For unfiled returns, there's no time limit. For penalty relief, the IRS offers a First-Time Penalty Abatement if you haven't had any significant penalties in the past three years and have filed all required returns (or filed extensions). This won't apply until you've filed the missing returns, but keep it in mind. Yes, installment plans are definitely available! For debts under $50,000, you can usually set up a payment plan online. The standard term is 72 months. Interest will continue to accrue, but it stops most penalties from continuing. Being a W-2 employee in Texas (no state income tax) makes your situation somewhat simpler than if you had business income or lived in a state with income tax.

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QuantumQuest

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If they set up a payment plan, will the IRS still send threatening letters? And can they still put a lien on property while on a payment plan? I'm dealing with something similar but worried about the consequences even if I start making payments.

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Zoe Dimitriou

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Once you have an approved installment agreement and are making your payments on time, the IRS will generally stop sending collection notices. You'll receive an annual statement instead showing your remaining balance. The IRS can still file a tax lien even with a payment plan, especially for larger tax debts. However, for smaller amounts (typically under $25,000) and if you agree to direct debit payments, they often won't file a lien. If you're concerned about this, you can specifically request a lien avoidance as part of your installment agreement negotiation.

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Mei Zhang

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Did you have to provide them with your social security number? I'm always worried about identity theft with online tax services.

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Liam McGuire

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How accurate were their penalty estimates compared to what the IRS actually hit you with? I'm in a similar boat and trying to budget for the damage.

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You don't need to provide your SSN just to use their document analyzer and get penalty estimates. They only need basic income information to calculate potential penalties, not your personal identifying details. Their penalty estimates were surprisingly accurate. They estimated I'd owe about $3,200 in penalties and interest on top of my unpaid taxes, and the IRS statement ended up being $3,450. The tool accounts for failure-to-file and failure-to-pay penalties plus interest rates for different periods, which is why it was so close.

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Liam McGuire

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Amara Eze

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How exactly does this work? Do they just call the IRS for you? Seems like there must be a catch.

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NeonNomad

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Sounds like BS to me. Nobody can magically get through the IRS phone system. They probably just keep autodialing until they get through, which you could do yourself.

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Amara Eze

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NeonNomad

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One thing nobody's mentioned yet - get those returns filed ASAP because if the IRS files a Substitute for Return (SFR) for you, they'll only use standard deductions and won't include any credits you might be eligible for. They basically give you the worst possible tax situation. I learned this the hard way when they did an SFR for my 2019 taxes. They said I owed $11,400 when I actually only owed about $4,200 when I finally filed properly with all my legitimate deductions and credits.

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Thanks for bringing this up - I had no idea they could just file a return for me! Do you know how long it typically takes before they do that? I'm trying to get all my paperwork together and I'm hoping I haven't hit that point yet.

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It varies, but they typically start the SFR process 1-3 years after the return was due. Since your 2021 return would have been due in April 2022, they might be preparing an SFR soon if they haven't already. You can find out by requesting an account transcript from the IRS website. If you see a code 150 with "Substitute for Return" next to it, that means they've already filed one for you. But even if they have, you can still file your own return which will replace their SFR and potentially reduce what you owe significantly.

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Has anyone used one of those tax relief companies that advertise on the radio? They claim they can settle with the IRS for "pennies on the dollar"... wondering if that's legitimate for situations like this.

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Zoe Dimitriou

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Be very careful with those tax relief companies. What they're referring to is an Offer in Compromise (OIC), which is legitimate but rarely approved. In 2020, only about 30% of OICs were accepted. These companies often charge thousands of dollars upfront with no guarantee of results. They're essentially offering what you can do yourself by filling out Form 656. To qualify for an OIC, you generally need to prove you can't pay through an installment agreement AND the full amount would cause financial hardship. For someone with steady salary income like the original poster, an OIC is unlikely to be approved unless there are significant other financial hardships.

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