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One thing to check is if your state offers a "first time abatement" policy like the IRS does. Some states will waive penalties (but not interest) if you've had a good filing and payment history in the past and this is your first time missing a deadline. You usually have to call and specifically request it though.
I didn't know about first time abatement for state taxes! Do you know which states offer this? I've always filed and paid on time before this year.
Not all states offer it, but quite a few do. California, Illinois, Massachusetts, and New York are some of the larger states that have some version of penalty abatement for first-time issues. Some call it "reasonable cause" relief rather than first-time abatement. The key is to request it explicitly - they almost never offer it automatically. You typically need to have a clean compliance history for the past 3-4 years to qualify. The requirements vary by state, but it's definitely worth asking about when you call to set up your payment plan.
Has anyone dealt with making a partial payment by the deadline? I'm thinking about paying what I can by April 15th and then the rest when I get my next paycheck at the end of the month. Will I still get hit with penalties on the full amount?
I did this last year. The penalties and interest only apply to the unpaid portion. So if you owe $1000 and pay $700 by the deadline, you'll only be charged penalties on the remaining $300. Definitely better than paying nothing by the deadline!
One thing nobody's mentioned - you could potentially request an abatement of penalties (but not the actual tax or interest) using Form 843, especially if this is your first time making this kind of mistake. The IRS sometimes grants "first-time abatement" for penalties if you have a clean compliance history for the previous 3 years. Won't help with the full amount, but could save you some money on the penalties portion of what you owe.
Thanks for this info! Do I need to wait until I've paid everything off before requesting the penalty abatement? And is there a specific timeframe I need to submit the form within?
You don't need to wait until everything is paid off to request penalty abatement. You can submit Form 843 after the penalties have been assessed, which typically happens after you file your return. There's generally a 3-year timeframe for requesting abatement, starting from when you filed the return or paid the tax, whichever is later. So you have some time, but I wouldn't procrastinate. It's usually best to set up your payment plan first and then submit the abatement request afterward.
From one exempt-checker to another... defintely adjust your withholding AGAIN. $3,100 monthly is way too much even if you owed $14k last year. Your basically giving IRS free money all year. Use the IRS withholding calculator online, its actually pretty good for figuring out the right amount.
Going back to the original movie question - I think there's a simple explanation that's being overlooked. Money laundering through legitimate businesses. In real life, cash-heavy businesses like restaurants, laundromats, car washes, etc. are often used to "clean" illegal money by mixing it with legitimate income. The character could easily own a legitimate business (maybe a private medical practice?) where he gradually filters in unreported cash by claiming it as patient payments. As long as he pays taxes on this income, the IRS is less likely to investigate the source too deeply. The real challenge would be explaining large asset purchases without documented income history.
Wouldn't the IRS get suspicious if a medical practice suddenly started reporting way more cash payments than usual though? I thought they have some kind of industry standards they compare against?
The IRS does have industry standards and benchmarks they use for comparison, but there's significant latitude depending on the type of practice and location. A high-end cosmetic surgery practice in a wealthy area could reasonably have more cash-paying clients than a general practice in a middle-income neighborhood. The key would be consistency over time rather than sudden spikes. Gradually increasing reported income over several years looks far less suspicious than a dramatic jump. Additionally, maintaining appropriate expense ratios that match industry standards would help avoid triggering automated flags in the IRS systems.
I think everyone's overthinking this. The movie is fiction and the writers probably never even considered the tax implications lol. It's like asking how Batman files his taxes without revealing his identity. Sometimes movies just don't make sense with real-world logistics.
Has anyone here had TurboTax reject their return because of incorrect prior year AGI? I'm in a similar situation and I'm worried I'll guess wrong.
I had mine rejected once when I used the wrong AGI. If that happens, you can usually try again with a different number. Usually you get 3-5 attempts before it becomes a bigger issue. If all else fails, you can always print and mail your return as a last resort.
The people suggesting to look at 2022 W-2s are correct but dont forget about other income - interest, dividends, unemployment, rental propertes etc. All of this gets included in AGI! Important to look at all your income sources when calculating your portion.
Sofia Torres
Something else to consider - if you're worried about taxes on your savings, you might want to look into a Roth IRA! I put most of my savings there instead of a regular bank account. The growth is tax free when you withdraw it in retirement. You can still take out your contributions anytime without penalty if you need them for an emergency. Way better than a savings account for long term!
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Zoe Alexopoulos
ā¢Thanks, that's really good to know! Can I just move my existing savings directly into a Roth IRA? And do banks offer these or do I need to go somewhere special?
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Sofia Torres
ā¢You can definitely move your savings into a Roth IRA, but there are annual contribution limits ($6,000 for 2025 if you're under 50). Your regular bank might offer them, but typically people open them with investment companies like Vanguard, Fidelity, or Charles Schwab. The advantage is that in a Roth IRA, you can invest in things that potentially grow much faster than a savings account - like index funds that might return 7-10% annually compared to the 1-2% you'd get from a high-yield savings account. Just remember that while you can withdraw contributions anytime, you generally can't touch the earnings until retirement age without penalties.
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GalacticGuardian
Quick tip: look into high yield savings accounts or money market accounts! I just switched from my regular bank (was paying like 0.01%) to an online bank paying 4.5% APY. Yeah you'll pay a bit more in taxes because you're earning more interest, but you'll still come out way ahead overall.
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Mei Wong
ā¢Any specific recommendations for good high yield accounts? I hear ads for them all the time but not sure which ones are legit.
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