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One thing nobody's mentioned - be sure to make your first payment on time even if you don't have official confirmation yet! If you set up a payment plan through TurboTax, they should have given you payment information including the amount and due date for your first payment. Stick to that schedule. Missing your first payment could void your entire payment plan, even if the plan itself hasn't been officially confirmed by the IRS yet. This happened to my brother last year and it was a nightmare to fix.

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Amy Fleming

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That's a really good point I hadn't considered. My first payment is supposed to be due on May 15th according to what I set up in TurboTax. Should I just go ahead and make that payment to the IRS directly if I still don't have confirmation by then?

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Yes, absolutely make that May 15th payment even without official confirmation. You can pay directly through the IRS Direct Pay system on their website - just make sure to select the correct tax year and payment type (installment agreement). This way you're covered no matter what. If your payment plan is already in their system, the payment will be correctly applied to it. If there was some glitch and the plan wasn't properly set up, you've still made a payment toward your tax debt before any serious penalties kick in.

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Joy Olmedo

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Has anyone ever had a payment plan completely disappear? Like, you set it up through TurboTax but the IRS has no record of it? I'm worried this might happen to me too.

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Isaiah Cross

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It happened to me once! Turned out TurboTax had a transmission error with that part of my return. I had to call the IRS and set up the payment plan directly with them. They were actually pretty understanding about it and didn't charge me any late fees since I could prove I tried to set it up on time.

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Canadian green card holder filing dual status tax return in US - need advice on my transition plan

I'm facing a somewhat complicated situation and would love some input on my plan for filing US taxes this year: I'm Canadian and relocated to the US in May 2022 on a TN visa. Even though I met the substantial presence test in 2022, I filed 1040NR and 540NR in the US/California using form 8833 (Canada/Tax treaty) and filed my Canadian resident tax return reporting my worldwide income to Canada. My reasoning was that I wasn't certain about staying in the US long-term and didn't want to cut ties with Canada after just working in the States for a short period. Jump to August 2023, my wife (also Canadian) and I received our green cards (finally!) - we initiated the application in March 2023 through her employer's sponsorship. We're considering declaring non-resident status in Canada later this year since my understanding is that green card holders should file 1040 or risk jeopardizing their green card status. We'd also benefit from some tax savings due to lower US tax rates. Here's my tentative plan (I've consulted with 2 US/Canada cross-border tax specialists - one thought this approach should work while the other wasn't completely confident): * Travel back to Canada in mid/late September and return to the US on October 1 (using October 1 as our departure date and first day as non-residents of Canada - thus filing Canadian tax resident return with worldwide income for January 1-September 30) * For US taxes, file a dual status tax return (filing 1040NR/540NR for January 1-September 30 with form 8833 reporting US-sourced income; then filing 1040/540 reporting worldwide income for October 1-December 31) * Sell my rented condo and aim to close by September 30 (there's approximately $270K capital gain that should be tax-free since it's been my principal residence from the beginning) * Close my TFSA and most Canadian bank accounts (keeping only accounts that serve non-residents in Canada); cancel OHIP (Ontario Health Insurance Plan) * From January 1, 2024 onward, we'll be US residents and Canadian non-residents Does this approach seem reasonable? I'd greatly appreciate any feedback or suggestions!

Freya Thomsen

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Another thing to consider with your plan: FBAR requirements for your Canadian accounts. As a green card holder, you'll need to file FinCEN Form 114 annually to report your foreign financial accounts if their aggregate value exceeds $10,000 at any point during the year. Also, be cautious with your TFSA. While it's tax-sheltered in Canada, the US doesn't recognize its tax-free status. Any income earned in your TFSA will be taxable on your US return, which is why closing it before becoming a US resident is a good move. Have you considered the implications for any Canadian retirement accounts like RRSPs? Under the treaty, you can defer US taxation on RRSPs, but you need to file Form 8891 to make this election.

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CosmicCommander

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Thank you for bringing up these important points! I have about $35K combined in my Canadian accounts, so I'll definitely need to file the FBAR. You're right about the TFSA - that's exactly why I'm planning to close it before October. Regarding RRSPs, I do have about $80K in an RRSP. I wasn't aware of Form 8891 - does that need to be filed annually or just once?

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Freya Thomsen

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The good news is that Form 8891 was actually eliminated in 2014! The IRS now automatically recognizes the tax deferral for RRSPs under the US-Canada tax treaty without requiring a specific form. You'll still need to report the existence of the RRSP on your FBAR and potentially on Form 8938 (Statement of Foreign Financial Assets) if you meet the filing threshold, but the income can continue to grow tax-deferred. One other consideration for your plan: make sure you've researched any state-specific requirements. California, for example, doesn't always follow federal treatment of foreign income and may have different rules regarding your Canadian accounts and investments compared to federal regulations.

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Omar Fawaz

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Have you factored in potential "exit tax" implications when leaving Canada? If the fair market value of your worldwide assets exceeds CAD $1.6 million at the time you become a non-resident, you might be subject to a deemed disposition of your property, potentially creating additional tax liability.

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Chloe Martin

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This is incorrect information. Canada doesn't have an "exit tax" in the same way as the US. What Canada has is a deemed disposition rule where certain properties are treated as if they were sold at fair market value when you cease Canadian residency. However, this typically doesn't apply to cash, personal-use property, most registered plans like RRSPs, and certain real property located in Canada.

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CosmicCommander

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Thanks for bringing this up. I've been concerned about this potential issue. My total assets are around CAD $1.3 million, so I should be under that threshold. Most of my assets are either in my RRSP, cash, or the condo which I'm planning to sell before becoming a non-resident. Would there be any other assets I should be concerned about for the deemed disposition rules?

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Fatima Al-Sayed

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15 Since you're getting married in October, remember that your marital status on December 31st determines your filing status for the ENTIRE year. So you'll be considered married for the whole 2024 tax year, even though you're only married for a couple months. Also, with your income levels, watch out for the 0.9% Additional Medicare Tax that kicks in for high-income earners. Filing jointly might affect when this tax applies to your income.

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Fatima Al-Sayed

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8 Wait really? So even if they get married on December 31, they're considered married for the WHOLE tax year? That seems weird... does that mean you could strategic time your wedding for tax purposes?

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Fatima Al-Sayed

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15 Yes, that's exactly right. The IRS only cares about your marital status on the last day of the year. If you're married on December 31st, you're considered married for the entire tax year. And yes, some people do strategically time their weddings for tax purposes, though I wouldn't recommend making such an important life decision solely based on taxes! But it's something to be aware of as you plan. In some cases, delaying a December wedding to January could be beneficial, while in other situations (like the original poster's with disparate incomes), getting married before year-end might save money.

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Fatima Al-Sayed

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24 Looking at the numbers you provided - you've paid $105k federal on $567k income, which is about 18.5%. That's actually slightly LOW for your income bracket, especially considering your bonus which was probably withheld at a lower rate than it should have been. You might want to make an estimated tax payment before year-end to avoid underpayment penalties.

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Fatima Al-Sayed

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2 I disagree - their withholding seems reasonable. The effective tax rate for someone earning around $570k would be close to 20% after deductions, and they're at 18.5% with a quarter of the year left. They're probably on track.

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Demi Hall

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Quick question - did you have any ongoing service contracts or warranties with the vending machine that you also sold? That might need to be handled separately.

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Not OP but I had a similar situation with equipment I sold. The service contract portion gets allocated separately as ordinary income, not as part of the capital transaction. At least that's how my accountant handled it.

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Liam Duke

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Yeah actually I did have a service contract that transferred to the new owner with about 8 months left on it. I hadn't even thought about that part. I paid $3200 for a 3-year service plan originally.

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Kara Yoshida

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Side note but I'm curious why ice vending machines aren't profitable? I always thought those things were cash cows with minimal maintenance. What went wrong if you don't mind sharing?

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Liam Duke

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Location, location, location. I put it in what I thought was a great spot near a lake where people go fishing and boating, but it turns out most people just bring their own ice in coolers. The property lease was expensive, electricity costs were higher than projected, and I had several expensive repairs in the first year. Competition from nearby gas stations with cheaper ice didn't help either. The ROI calculations from the manufacturer were... let's just say optimistic.

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Mason Lopez

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Another option - check if your state's Secretary of State website has a business entity search. You can usually look up the company and find their EIN or at least their full legal name and address for your records. I had to do this when a client disappeared on me. The information is public record for registered businesses.

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Pedro Sawyer

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That's a fantastic idea! I hadn't thought about checking public records. Would the Secretary of State site definitely have the EIN though? I was under the impression that EINs aren't always public information.

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Mason Lopez

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The Secretary of State site won't always have the EIN directly listed, you're right about that. But it will have the company's official registered name, address, and usually the name of the registered agent or owner. Having the full legal entity name is often helpful when reporting on your taxes. With that information, you can also try searching the EDGAR database on the SEC website if it's a larger company, or sometimes even a Google search for "[Company Name] EIN" works because companies often put their EIN on various public documents. Local business licenses sometimes include this info too.

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Vera Visnjic

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Why not just report what you think you earned on Schedule C? The IRS probably won't even notice if your estimate is reasonably close to what the company reports. I've had missing 1099s before and just guessed the amount based on what I remembered making. Never had an issue.

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Jake Sinclair

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This is terrible advice. If your estimate is significantly lower than what the company reports, you'll get a CP2000 notice and potentially owe penalties and interest. Better to overestimate slightly than underreport.

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