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One thing to consider is taking out a loan to pay the taxes if the interest rate would be lower than IRS penalties. I had a similar issue (owed about $18k) and took out a personal loan at 8.9% to pay it off, which was better than the combined IRS penalties and interest. Credit unions sometimes offer decent rates for this kind of thing, or you might qualify for a 0% intro APR credit card that could buy you 12-15 months to sort things out.
Wouldn't a HELOC be even better if they own a home? The rates are usually much lower than personal loans.
Yes, a HELOC would definitely be better if you own a home with sufficient equity. The rates are typically much lower than personal loans, often in the 4-6% range currently. Plus the interest might be tax-deductible if you use it for home improvements (though not for paying taxes). I suggested a personal loan because many traders who get caught in this situation are younger and might not own property yet. But you're absolutely right that a HELOC is a better option if available.
Has anyone mentioned Form 9465? That's the Installment Agreement Request. You can setup a plan for up to 72 months.
Quick tip from someone who does this regularly - if your income is genuinely below all thresholds, you might not even need to file a self assessment next year. You can call HMRC and ask to be taken out of self assessment if you no longer meet the criteria. Common reasons people stay in self assessment unnecessarily: - They had a one-off income spike - They started self-employment but then stopped - They previously had multiple income sources but now just have PAYE Just something to consider if your situation has changed permanently.
That's really helpful, thank you! My situation was exactly that - I had a side business that generated decent income in 2020-2021, but I closed it down last year. Would I just call HMRC after filing my 2021-2022 return to ask to be removed from self assessment?
Yes, that's right! Complete your 2021-2022 return first (which will show your income is below thresholds), then call HMRC and explain that you've closed your business and no longer need to be in the self assessment system. They'll ask a few questions to confirm you don't meet any of the criteria, and if they agree, they'll remove you from the system. Make sure you keep the confirmation they send you about this. Most people find it's a huge relief not having to worry about the annual self assessment deadline anymore!
Just to add to what others have said - be careful with the timing. If you reduce your payment on account and later your actual income turns out to be higher than you estimated, HMRC will charge interest on the underpayment. Not trying to scare you - if your income is genuinely below thresholds then you're fine! But I made a mistake once where I forgot about some dividend income that pushed me over the threshold, and ended up paying interest.
Honestly, most people are wasting money at places like H&R Block. I've used TaxSlayer for the last 3 years and it's been way cheaper (around $60 total for federal and state) and super easy to use. Has all the same features as TurboTax but without the higher price tag. Unless you have a really complicated situation (like owning a business, multiple rental properties, or complicated investments), the tax software options are more than enough. The people at those tax prep places are usually just entering your info into similar software anyway, but charging you $200+ for the privilege!
Do you know if TaxSlayer handles crypto transactions well? I did some trading last year and heard that can be a nightmare to report correctly.
TaxSlayer does handle crypto transactions, but I found it to be somewhat limited for more complex crypto situations. It works well if you have straightforward trades from major exchanges that provide good documentation. If you have extensive crypto activity across multiple platforms or DeFi transactions, you might want to use specialized crypto tax software first (like CoinTracker or Koinly) to generate the necessary forms, then import those into TaxSlayer. That's what I did this year after struggling with manual entry last year, and it was much easier.
Spent 15 years as a tax preparer and here's my honest take: the best tax accountants are local CPAs or EAs (Enrolled Agents) who specialize in your specific situation. BUT they're expensive ($350-600 typically). For most people with W-2s and simple investments, TurboTax, TaxAct, or FreeTaxUSA are perfectly fine and will save you hundreds. The big chains like H&R Block often employ seasonal workers with just basic trainingβyou're paying premium prices for entry-level knowledge. One trick: if your adjusted gross income is under $73,000, you can use the IRS Free File program partners to file federal taxes completely free. Many states have similar programs.
This is super helpful! Is there any way to know if I qualify for free file without going through the whole process first? I'm right on the edge income-wise.
I'm a bookkeeper for several small businesses, and I see this 1099-NEC issue from the other side all the time. Sometimes the error happens because the accounting software counts all invoices created during the year, not just the ones that were paid. Another possibility: did you have any expenses that the client reimbursed you for? Some clients incorrectly include expense reimbursements in 1099 totals, which they shouldn't if those were legitimate business expense reimbursements. I'd suggest checking your invoices against the client's records. It might be that they're counting an invoice you sent in December that didn't actually get paid until January 2025, which would belong on next year's 1099.
OMG you might be onto something with the reimbursements! I did have about $1,500 in travel expenses that they reimbursed me for when I had to fly to their headquarters for a big project. I didn't count those as income in my records because they were just covering my costs. Is that what's causing the discrepancy?
That's almost certainly the issue then! The $1,500 in reimbursed expenses plus your $7,830 in actual income equals $9,330, which is very close to the $9,450 they reported (the remaining $120 difference could be a calculation error or another small reimbursement you're forgetting). Reimbursed expenses should NOT be included on your 1099-NEC if they were legitimate business expenses. The client should issue a corrected 1099-NEC showing only the $7,830 in actual service income. If they included the reimbursements, they're reporting it incorrectly. Take this explanation to your client and specifically point out that expense reimbursements shouldn't be on the 1099-NEC. Many small businesses don't realize this and their accountants might not catch it if they're just given total payment figures.
Question about this situation - I have the opposite problem. My client UNDER-reported on my 1099-NEC by about $2,000. Should I just report my actual higher income on my Schedule C and not worry about getting a corrected 1099? Seems like paying more tax than the 1099 shows wouldn't trigger any IRS concerns?
You're right that reporting MORE income than what's on your 1099-NEC won't trigger IRS concerns - they're generally more worried about underreporting. However, for your own protection and record-keeping, it's still best to request a corrected 1099-NEC that accurately reflects what you were paid. The reason is that your client is likely taking a tax deduction for what they paid you. If their records show they paid you $2,000 more than what they reported on your 1099-NEC, that discrepancy could potentially cause problems for them in an audit, which could circle back to questions about your income.
Camila Jordan
Don't forget the HOLDING PERIOD issue!! Everyone's talking about the exercise tax hit, but there's also huge tax implications for how long you hold the shares AFTER exercising. If you exercise now and hold for >1 year after IPO before selling, any gains ABOVE the FMV at exercise would be long-term capital gains (15-20% tax). If you exercise at IPO and immediately sell, it's ALL ordinary income (up to 37% federal + state + FICA). This was a game-changer for me - exercised my NSOs 14 months before our IPO, paid taxes on a smaller spread, then got LTCG treatment on the massive post-IPO appreciation.
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Tyler Lefleur
β’This is absolutely correct. I made the mistake of exercising right at our IPO and selling within the year. Ended up paying nearly 45% (combined federal, state, local) in taxes on the full value. A colleague who exercised a year earlier paid ordinary income on the smaller pre-IPO spread, then only 15% on the huge jump from exercise to IPO price. Difference was over $100k in taxes on roughly similar option grants.
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Madeline Blaze
Something I learned the hard way: that 409(a) valuation of $10.50 isn't guaranteed to stay static until IPO! Our company had THREE valuation increases in the 9 months before IPO, with the final one being almost 70% of the eventual IPO price. If your company is gaining momentum toward IPO, the 409(a) valuation will likely increase in the coming months, potentially eliminating some of the tax advantage of exercising early. Maybe consider a partial exercise now to lock in the current valuation for some of your shares? Also, do you know if your company will offer a cashless exercise option at IPO? That's important for your cash flow planning.
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Lucas Bey
β’That's a really important point about the 409(a) potentially increasing! I hadn't considered that but it makes total sense as we get closer to IPO. I like the idea of a partial exercise strategy. Regarding cashless exercise - I've heard rumors that we'll have that option at IPO, but nothing confirmed in writing. I should probably ask our finance team about this. Would that essentially mean I could exercise and immediately sell enough shares to cover the exercise cost and taxes?
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Madeline Blaze
β’Exactly - a cashless exercise at IPO would let you exercise options and immediately sell enough shares to cover both the exercise cost and the resulting tax bill, without needing to come up with cash out of pocket. Very common for IPOs. If that's an option, you might want to hold some options for that route, especially if you're cash-constrained. The tax hit will be higher, but you won't need liquidity. Many people do a mixed approach - exercise some now for tax advantages (if you have the cash), and save some for cashless exercise at IPO to diversify risk. Definitely get confirmation from your finance team though - some companies require you to exercise before IPO to participate in the offering!
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