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Wanted to add another perspective - I've been dealing with foreign tax credits for over a decade (income from Japan and occasionally Australia). The confusion often comes from the difference between the "regular" foreign tax credit and the "simplified" foreign tax credit. If you use the Simplified procedure (which is available if your foreign income is only from passive investments and under certain thresholds), there are different rules. But for regular foreign income like yours that requires Form 1116, the carryforward absolutely applies to all US tax liability in future years. Your preparer might be thinking of a different limitation, but they're still wrong. I'd recommend either finding a new preparer who specializes in international taxation or using good tax software that handles this correctly.
This makes sense. I'm wondering if my preparer is confusing different rules. Do you have any recommendations for tax software that handles Form 1116 and foreign tax credit carryforwards properly?
In my experience, TaxAct Premium handles Form 1116 and foreign tax credit carryforwards correctly. It walks you through the proper allocation of carryforwards and applies them appropriately to your current year US tax liability. I've also heard good things about TaxSlayer Premium for international tax situations, though I haven't personally used it. The key is to make sure you're using a premium or top-tier version of whatever software you choose, as the basic versions often don't include the proper support for Form 1116.
Just a quick word of caution - make sure you're allocating your foreign tax credit to the right category (general, passive, etc.) on Form 1116. This is another area where tax preparers often make mistakes. Based on your description, your Japan income sounds like general category income (assuming it was for work/services). If you incorrectly categorized it in 2023, that could affect how the carryforward works. Might be worth double-checking your 2023 return to make sure the income was properly categorized before applying the carryforward to 2024.
Has anyone worked with a specialized R&D tax credit firm vs doing it yourself or using software? We're debating between hiring a specialized firm (charging 25-30% of the credit) vs trying to handle it internally with some software assistance.
We used [firm name] last year and they found about $180k in credits, but charged us $54k (30%). They handled everything including amending prior year returns. The documentation they prepared was really thorough which helped when we got some questions from the IRS. Expensive but worth it for the peace of mind.
That's helpful to know. The 30% fee sounds high but having thorough documentation that stands up to IRS scrutiny seems worth it. Did they help with both the technical and financial documentation aspects? I'm also wondering about the amending prior years - did that cause any complications or did it go smoothly? We're considering going back to claim 2022 credits we missed.
Question for everyone - with the Section 174 capitalization requirements, has anyone found a good accounting software that properly handles tracking these R&D expenses separately? Our current system doesn't seem to have caught up with these tax changes.
We've been using QuickBooks with custom accounts set up specifically for R&D. Created separate accounts for domestic R&D (5-year amortization) and foreign (15-year). Then set up amortization schedules in Excel that feed back to our monthly journal entries. Not perfect but it works.
Thanks for the suggestion! That makes sense - creating custom accounts seems like a practical workaround. I'm still hoping software providers will catch up with better built-in solutions for these R&D tracking requirements. Our controller wasn't thrilled about the manual Excel approach but I guess that's what we'll need to do for now. Did you run into any challenges with mid-year R&D expenses and when to start the amortization?
Former Liberty Tax preparer here. At our office, we would definitely fix this mistake at no cost, but refunds were on a case-by-case basis. Typically, we'd offer 15-20% refund for inconvenience on something like a name error that's relatively simple to fix but still requires an amendment. $675 sounds about right for a business return depending on complexity and your location. If you had multiple schedules, rental properties, or depreciation schedules, that's actually reasonable. Make sure the amendment is filed via certified mail so you have proof of submission. Also get written confirmation that they're waiving any amendment fees. If they give you any trouble, ask to speak with the franchise owner directly - they have more authority than the preparers or managers.
Is it normal for tax preparers to charge so much? I've been filing my S-Corp taxes with TurboTax for $170. Am I missing something by not using a professional?
It depends entirely on your business complexity and comfort level with tax regulations. TurboTax works well for straightforward businesses with minimal special situations. Where professionals provide value is with tax planning, specialized deductions, complex allocations, and having someone to represent you if questions arise. If you're confident in your understanding of business tax rules and your return is relatively straightforward, software might be sufficient. But many business owners find professionals help identify deductions and planning opportunities that more than offset their fees. Also, having representation during notices or audits can be invaluable for complex business structures.
I had almost the exact same issue with HR Block last year. They transposed digits in my EIN and it was a nightmare to fix. Here's what worked for me: 1) Document EVERYTHING including all communications 2) Be polite but FIRM - ask to speak with the office manager immediately 3) Request they cover all costs for the amendment AND provide a 50% refund for the inconvenience 4) If they refuse, mention that you'll be filing complaints with: - Better Business Bureau - Your state's accountancy board - Corporate headquarters customer service - Social media reviews They initially offered just a free amendment but bumped it to a 30% refund when I mentioned these steps. The key is staying calm but being absolutely clear that their error is costing you time and potential penalties.
Do you think its worth getting a lawyer involved? My cousin is an attorney and said I could have him send a letter for free.
In my experience, involving a lawyer should be your absolute last resort, not your first step. A strongly worded attorney letter might get immediate attention, but it also immediately creates an adversarial relationship that can make an amicable resolution harder. I'd recommend following the escalation chain first - preparer ā office manager ā corporate customer service. Most tax preparation chains have established protocols for handling errors and want to preserve their reputation. Save the legal approach for if they flatly refuse to address the issue after you've exhausted normal channels. Even a free lawyer letter from your cousin changes the dynamic significantly.
Just to add another perspective - I'm also a tutor and went through this exact situation last year. I decided to use regular depreciation (MACRS) instead of Section 179 because my income is growing each year, and I wanted to spread the deductions out over years when I'd be in a higher tax bracket. If you're expecting your tutoring income to increase significantly in the coming years, it might be worth considering the long-term strategy rather than getting the full deduction now. Just something to think about!
That's a really smart point about considering future income growth! Do you know off-hand what the depreciation percentages would be for each year if I went the MACRS route? And did you have to file any special forms when you did this?
For 5-year property under MACRS with the half-year convention, the percentages are roughly: 20% in year 1, 32% in year 2, 19.2% in year 3, 11.52% in year 4, 11.52% in year 5, and 5.76% in year 6. But since you're starting in the year after purchase, you'd use 32% for this year. Yes, you'll need to file Form 4562 (Depreciation and Amortization) with your Schedule C regardless of which method you choose. It's not particularly complicated, but tax software makes it much easier. The form has specific lines for listing your depreciable business assets and the method you're using.
Has anyone used TurboTax Self-Employed for handling this kind of depreciation situation? I'm in a similar boat and wondering if it walks you through all these options or if I need something more specialized.
I used TurboTax Self-Employed last year for my freelance business, and it does handle depreciation including Section 179 and MACRS. It asks a series of questions about when you purchased the equipment, what it's used for, and then gives you the options. It filled out Form 4562 automatically based on my answers. The interview process was pretty straightforward for basic equipment like computers. If you have more complex assets it might be worth getting additional help, but for a laptop used for tutoring, TurboTax should be fine.
Daniel Price
I'm an accountant who works with several family farms, and I'd recommend looking into Section 1361(c)(2)(A)(ii) Qualified Subchapter S Trust (QSST) if the farm is an S Corporation. It might allow you to shift some income without disrupting the family operations. Also, check if the farm is taking all agricultural deductions like Section 179 for equipment. Sometimes family farms miss these opportunities because they've "always done it this way" for generations.
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Noah Irving
ā¢Thanks so much for this info! The farm is indeed an S Corp. Would setting up a QSST require getting everyone in the family on board? And how exactly would it help with our tax situation? Sorry if these are basic questions, this farm tax situation is completely outside my experience.
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Daniel Price
ā¢Setting up a QSST would only involve your wife's shares, not the entire family structure. It creates a trust that holds her shares, which can sometimes provide more flexibility in how and when income is recognized. The main benefit would be potential income timing advantages and possibly some estate planning benefits as well. However, it does require proper setup by someone familiar with both trust law and agricultural tax issues. It's not a DIY solution, but depending on the value of the shares and ongoing income, it might be worth the setup costs.
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Olivia Evans
Have you guys checked if the farm is taking advantage of income averaging? IRS Schedule J lets farmers average their income over 3 years which can really help with tax situations, especially in good years. It's a huge benefit that a lot of family farms don't even know about.
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Sophia Bennett
ā¢My family uses income averaging and it's saved us thousands. But remember it only helps the active farmers (her brothers who run it), not passive shareholders. The original poster and his wife would still get the K-1 with the same amount of pass-through income regardless.
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