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Dylan Mitchell

Is my employer committing tax fraud with weird paycheck withholding?

So I started this new job about 2 months ago where I'm supposed to be paid biweekly as a W-2 employee. But something really weird is happening with my paychecks. For my first check of each month, I don't get any paystub and there's literally NO tax withheld. Then my second check of the month comes and it's basically empty because they take out ALL the taxes for the whole month at once! For example, my gross pay is supposed to be about $3800 per pay period. But my first check will be the full amount with no taxes, and then my second check might only be like $950 after they take out all the taxes for both pay periods combined. The paystub for the second check shows I'm being paid monthly (not biweekly), claiming a monthly income of around $7600. Also, I've worked overtime several times but never saw a penny of overtime pay on either check. I'm pretty sure that's illegal. Is this monthly tax withholding when I'm actually paid biweekly some kind of tax violation? It's really screwing with my finances since I need that money spread out evenly to pay my bills. Is my boss committing tax fraud or is this just a weird but legal payroll setup?

This definitely sounds problematic on multiple fronts. Let me address each issue: First, regarding the tax withholding pattern - while employers have some flexibility in how they handle payroll, withholding all taxes on the second check while giving you the first check tax-free is highly unusual and potentially improper. The IRS generally expects withholding to occur when wages are paid, not delayed to a later paycheck. The paystub situation is concerning too. By law, employees must receive detailed paystubs showing earnings and deductions. Not providing a paystub for your first monthly check likely violates labor laws in most states. As for the overtime issue, that's a clear violation of the Fair Labor Standards Act if you're a non-exempt employee. Overtime must be paid at 1.5 times your regular rate for hours worked beyond 40 in a workweek. I'd recommend documenting everything carefully - save all paystubs, record your actual hours worked, and note any conversations about these issues. You might want to file a complaint with your state's Department of Labor and possibly contact the IRS about the irregular withholding pattern.

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Dmitry Petrov

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Would it make sense to talk to the employer first before going to the Department of Labor? I've seen some small businesses do weird stuff with payroll not because they're trying to commit fraud but because they don't know any better. Also, how would someone even report this to the IRS?

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Yes, having a conversation with your employer could be a good first step. Approach it from an information-seeking perspective rather than an accusatory one. Something like "I noticed my tax withholding seems unusual and I'm concerned about how it might affect my tax situation." Sometimes these issues are due to misunderstanding or poor payroll management rather than intentional fraud. For reporting to the IRS if needed, you can use Form 3949-A (Information Referral) to report suspected tax law violations. You can also call the IRS directly about improper withholding practices, especially if the employer doesn't correct the issue after you've discussed it with them.

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Ava Martinez

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How does that work? Do I just upload pictures of my paystubs? I've only got the ones from the second checks since I don't get stubs for the first check of the month.

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Miguel Castro

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I dunno, sounds like just another paid service that'll tell you what you already know. Can't you just google the relevant laws yourself? Does it actually help you fix the problem or just confirm that there is one?

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StarSurfer

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Ava Martinez

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QuantumQuasar

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I used to work in payroll and this sounds like your employer is having cash flow problems. They're essentially using your first check of the month as an interest-free loan. They don't withhold taxes so they can pay you the full amount, then they catch up on the withholding with the second check when (presumably) they have more cash on hand to cover payroll AND tax remittance. Super sketchy and definitely not proper payroll practice. The overtime issue is a separate and clear violation. Document everything! If they're cutting corners on payroll, they might not be remitting those withheld taxes to the government either, which can cause YOU problems down the road.

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Wait, how could this cause ME problems if they don't remit the taxes they're withholding? I thought once it's withheld from my check, it's their responsibility to send it to the IRS? Could I end up owing those taxes again?

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QuantumQuasar

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If your W-2 at the end of the year shows that taxes were withheld but the company never actually sent those funds to the IRS, you could potentially face issues. The IRS will expect those tax payments based on what's reported on your W-2. While you can prove the withholding through your paystubs, it creates a complicated situation where you might initially appear delinquent on tax payments. It's one of those situations where you'd eventually get it sorted out, but it can cause significant headaches, potential notices from the IRS, and time spent proving that the withholding occurred. In extreme cases of employer fraud, employees sometimes have to file Form 8919 (Uncollected Social Security and Medicare Tax on Wages) to properly report and pay these taxes that should have been handled by the employer.

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Has anyone considered that this might be a "semi-monthly" pay schedule rather than biweekly? With semi-monthly, you get paid twice a month (like on the 15th and last day of month) regardless of weekdays, while biweekly is every two weeks (26 paychecks per year). The amount per check would be more consistent with semi-monthly, and some payroll systems handle withholding differently for the two checks in a semi-monthly system. Still doesn't excuse the lack of proper paystubs or overtime pay though.

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Paolo Moretti

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That's actually a good point. My company does semi-monthly (5th and 20th) and the first check of the month has different withholding than the second. But we definitely get paystubs for both! And they certainly pay overtime when applicable. The real red flag to me is the missing paystub - that's not legal anywhere I know of.

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