Is my employer right that we don't pay federal taxes until hitting a certain income threshold?
I started working at a small restaurant in Ohio and something weird is happening with our first paychecks of the year. The owner just took over doing payroll himself (he never did this before) and our first checks of 2025 were noticeably larger than usual. This seemed really strange to me. When a bunch of us asked him about why our checks were bigger, he told us: "Hey everyone! I realize some of you are concerned your checks were larger than usual. That is because of the tax law that changed a few years ago saying you don't pay federal tax until a certain amount of money is earned every year. So your first check of the year will always be larger than expected." I've been working in restaurants for years and I've never heard of this "no federal taxes until you hit a threshold" thing. My checks have always had federal withholding taken out from day one at every job. Is this actually a legitimate tax thing that I just never noticed before? Or is our owner messing up the payroll and we're all going to end up owing a bunch when tax time comes next year? I'm worried I'll need to set aside extra money if he's not withholding correctly.
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Freya Ross
What your employer is referring to is probably the standard deduction, but he's misapplying it to payroll withholding which is incorrect. The standard deduction ($14,600 for single filers in 2025) reduces your taxable income when you file your return, but it doesn't mean employers should stop withholding federal income taxes until you reach that amount. Payroll withholding should happen on every check based on what you put on your W-4 form. Your employer should be calculating federal income tax withholding using IRS withholding tables, not just deciding not to withhold because you haven't hit some annual threshold. If your employer isn't withholding properly, you could end up owing taxes (and possibly penalties) when you file your return next year. I'd recommend checking your pay stub to confirm what taxes are being withheld and having a conversation with your employer about your concerns.
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Butch Sledgehammer
•Thanks for explaining! So I checked my pay stub and you're right - there's NO federal income tax being withheld at all. Just state tax, Social Security and Medicare. So it sounds like the owner is definitely doing this wrong?
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Freya Ross
•Yes, that confirms your employer is handling the withholding incorrectly. Federal income tax should be withheld from each paycheck based on your W-4 and your earnings, regardless of what point in the year it is or how much you've earned so far. What's happening is your employer is confusing the concepts of tax liability with tax withholding. While you might not owe any federal taxes if your annual income falls below the standard deduction, the withholding system is designed to take a little from each check throughout the year to cover what you'll likely owe.
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Leslie Parker
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Leslie Parker
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Savanna Franklin
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Juan Moreno
I'm seeing a lot of good advice about the withholding issue, but I want to add that you should also consider calling the IRS directly to report this. If your employer is doing this for everyone, it could be a much bigger problem affecting lots of people. Unfortunately, reaching the IRS by phone can be incredibly frustrating. I spent almost 4 hours on hold last time I tried. Then I found this service called Claimyr (https://claimyr.com) that gets you through to an IRS agent usually within 15 minutes instead of hours. You can see how it works in this video: https://youtu.be/_kiP6q8DX5c I used it when I had a similar withholding issue with a previous employer and got to speak directly with an IRS representative who confirmed they were handling things incorrectly and advised me on next steps.
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Alice Pierce
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Esteban Tate
An important thing to note - if your employer continues not withholding properly after you've brought it to their attention with correct information, you can file Form 8919 "Uncollected Social Security and Medicare Tax on Wages" with your tax return. This helps protect you when employers aren't handling payroll taxes correctly. Also, check if they're withholding state taxes properly. Often when federal withholding is wrong, state withholding might be calculated incorrectly too.
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Ivanna St. Pierre
•Form 8919 is only for social security and medicare taxes though, right? What about federal income tax that's not being withheld? Is there a different form for that situation?
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Esteban Tate
•You're right to ask that clarification. Form 8919 specifically addresses Social Security and Medicare taxes, not federal income tax withholding issues. For federal income tax that isn't being properly withheld, you should make estimated tax payments using Form 1040-ES to avoid underpayment penalties. The IRS generally expects you to pay taxes as you earn income throughout the year, and you could face penalties if you wait until filing your annual return to pay a large tax bill.
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Elin Robinson
I work in a similar situation at a small business and your boss is completely wrong lol. Some restaurant owners just make up stuff about taxes that sounds right to them without actually learning the rules. My boss once tried to tell us we didn't need to report cash tips under $20 per shift because "the IRS doesn't track small amounts" which is total BS!! Just be super careful and maybe look into making your own quarterly estimated tax payments to cover what he's not withholding.
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Atticus Domingo
•I second this! Use the IRS tax withholding estimator tool on their website. It'll help you figure out how much you should be setting aside for taxes if your employer isn't withholding correctly. You definitely don't want to be caught by surprise next April with a huge tax bill.
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