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Has anyone tried just using the free fillable forms on the IRS website for back taxes? I'm in a similar situation but don't want to pay for tax software for multiple years.
I tried using the free fillable forms for my back taxes from 2020 and it was a nightmare. They don't provide any guidance, and I kept getting errors when I tried to submit because I missed some obscure form. Ended up paying for basic TurboTax anyway because I got so frustrated. If you only have W-2 income it might be doable, but with any complexity, I wouldn't recommend it.
Thanks for sharing your experience. That's exactly what I was worried about. I do have some investment income and a small side business, so it sounds like the free forms would be more trouble than they're worth. I'll probably just bite the bullet and pay for some basic tax software to make sure everything gets filed correctly.
I just want to add that you should figure out how much you might owe before filing everything. That way you can set aside enough money for a payment or be prepared to set up a payment plan. The IRS Fresh Start program might help if you owe a lot. Good luck!
One thing nobody mentioned yet about the FEIE - if your tax home is in a foreign country, you might also qualify under the Bona Fide Residence Test instead of just Physical Presence. It's less about counting days and more about proving you're truly residing in Singapore. Things like having a permanent residence there, involvement in the local community, intentions to stay long-term, etc. The benefit is that short trips back to the US (like your Christmas visit) don't affect your qualification as much. The downside is it's more subjective and documentation-heavy. But something to consider if you're planning to stay in Singapore long-term!
That's interesting! I do have a 2-year lease here and a Singapore employment pass. Would that help establish bona fide residence? The physical presence test seems more straightforward but I'm wondering if bona fide residence might be better long-term since I do plan to visit home occasionally.
Yes, your 2-year lease and Singapore employment pass are excellent proof for the Bona Fide Residence test! Other helpful documentation would include local bank accounts, driver's license (if you have one), utility bills in your name, and evidence of community involvement. You're right that physical presence is more straightforward for your first year, but bona fide residence gives you more flexibility for visits home in future years. The key is demonstrating that Singapore is truly your tax home and center of life. Once established, you can generally maintain bona fide residence status even with more substantial visits to the US, as long as your trips are temporary and you clearly intend to return to Singapore.
Don't forget about state taxes! The FEIE only applies to federal taxes. Depending on which state you lived in before moving abroad, you might still owe state income tax even while living in Singapore. Some states like California and Virginia are notorious for trying to claim you as a resident unless you've completely severed all ties.
This is so true. I'm from California and even after moving to Germany for work, they kept considering me a CA resident because I kept my driver's license and had some investment property there. Had to pay state taxes on top of everything else until I officially "moved" to Florida first (on paper) before heading overseas again.
Has anyone else found that TurboTax automatically directs you to Form 1116 once your foreign taxes exceed the $600 threshold (for MFJ)? I'm trying to decide whether it's worth filling out that form or just taking the deduction to avoid the headache. I've got about $750 in foreign taxes this year.
Yes, TurboTax does push you to Form 1116 once you exceed the threshold, but DON'T take the deduction just to avoid the form! I made that mistake last year with $820 in foreign taxes. Taking the deduction instead of the credit cost me around $600 in missed tax savings (I'm in the 32% bracket, so the deduction was way less valuable than the credit). Form 1116 seems intimidating but isn't that bad once you get into it. Most of your dividend-related foreign taxes just go into the "passive income" category, and TurboTax will guide you through it step by step.
Thanks for the advice! I was leaning toward just taking the deduction to avoid dealing with another form, but $600 in missed savings is definitely worth spending an extra 30 minutes on Form 1116. I'm in a similar tax bracket, so I'd probably be leaving similar money on the table. Is it true that I need to categorize dividends from different countries separately, or can I just lump all my foreign dividend taxes into one entry on Form 1116?
One thing nobody's mentioned yet is that if you decide to take the foreign tax credit with Form 1116, you'll need to track any excess credits that can carry forward if you can't use them all this year. This happens if your foreign tax credit is limited because your foreign-source income is taxed at a higher rate abroad than it would be in the US. I learned this the hard way when I missed out on carrying forward about $430 in excess credits from 2023 because I didn't track it properly. Those carryforward credits are valid for 10 years!
Is there a specific form or worksheet for tracking the carryforward amounts? I'm worried I might have some excess credits from previous years that I didn't claim. Does TurboTax automatically carry these forward if you used it in previous years?
Something nobody's mentioned yet - gas stations are regulated differently than most businesses. In many states, there are specific laws about how gas prices are displayed and advertised. Some states actually require gas stations to show the lowest price (cash price) on their big signs. Also, gas stations often pay higher processing fees than other retailers because of the high dollar amounts and fraud potential. The card networks classify them as "high-risk merchants" which means higher rates.
Do you know if there's any regulation about how much extra they can charge for credit? My local station is charging almost a dollar more per gallon for credit vs cash which seems WAY more than the actual processing fee would be.
The regulations vary by state, but generally there's no strict limit on the price difference. However, in most states, they do need to clearly post both prices. Some states like California have regulations requiring that credit card surcharges can't exceed the actual cost to the merchant, but enforcement is spotty. The large difference you're seeing (nearly a dollar) is definitely more than just covering the processing fee. It's likely they're using the cash discount to encourage a payment method that has other benefits for them - faster settlement, no chargebacks, and possibly some unreported cash transactions. It's a way to improve their overall margins in a business with typically very thin profit margins.
Former gas station manager here. The credit/cash price difference isn't just about processing fees and tax deductions. There's more to it. 1) Cash payments are immediate. Credit card payments can take 2-3 days to process, which affects cash flow. 2) Cash transactions have no risk of chargebacks, which are a huge headache. 3) Cash transactions are faster at the pump, meaning more customers served. 4) Credit card companies charge higher rates for premium cards (those 2% cashback cards cost merchants more). Yes, the processing fees are tax deductible, but like someone else said, that only saves us about 21% of the actual fee. We're still paying the other 79%.
Is it true that gas stations make almost no money on the actual gas and make all their profit on the convenience store stuff? I've heard that's why they try so hard to get people inside the store.
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9 I'm still waiting on my refund too, filed 2/1/25. What's frustrating is the "Where's My Refund" tool still says "Processing" with no other details. Has anyone found a better way to get actual status updates? Is calling the IRS even worth it this early in the wait?
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ā¢5 In my experience, calling before the 21-day mark is pretty useless. They'll just tell you it's still within the normal processing time. I'd wait until at least 21 days have passed before trying to contact them - then at least they might give you more specific info about any delays.
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ā¢9 Thanks for the advice. You're right - I should probably wait until the 21-day mark passes. My return is pretty straightforward so hopefully it won't take much longer than that. Just the waiting and uncertainty that drives me crazy!
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16 Anyone wondering about verification letters - I worked seasonal customer service for the IRS last year, and we were insanely backed up with generating these notifications. Your refund processing isn't linked to whether you have the verification letter or not. The letter is just confirmation your return was accepted into the system.
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ā¢1 That's good to know! So even though I'm still waiting for that verification letter, my refund is still being processed behind the scenes? I was worried the whole process was on hold until I got that official verification.
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