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This might sound obvious, but have you tried using the "Where's My Refund" tool on the IRS website specifically for your 2022 return? My sister had a similar issue and it turned out her 2022 return needed additional verification, but she never received the letter they supposedly sent. Also check if your address changed between 2022 and 2023 - sometimes correspondence gets lost if you moved and the IRS is still using your old address.
Yes, I've been checking "Where's My Refund" for months for my 2022 return. It just says "Your tax return is still being processed" with no other information. I did move in late 2022, but I updated my address with USPS. Do I need to update my address directly with the IRS too?
Yes, you absolutely need to update your address directly with the IRS. The USPS mail forwarding doesn't automatically notify the IRS of your new address. This could definitely explain why you might have missed important letters about your 2022 return! You can update your address with the IRS by submitting Form 8822 (Change of Address). In the meantime, I'd recommend using one of the methods others suggested to contact the IRS directly about your 2022 return - especially now that we know you moved, there's a good chance they've been sending verification requests or other important notices to your old address.
Has anyone actually received a 2022 refund after filing their 2023 taxes? I'm in the exact same boat - still waiting on 2022 money while my 2023 return is already accepted. Getting really worried the IRS will just "forget" about the older refund.
Yes! I received my very delayed 2022 refund about 3 weeks after filing my 2023 taxes. The two systems operate independently so one doesn't affect the other. My 2022 return had some issues with education credits that needed manual review, but they eventually sorted it out without me having to call.
Definitely pay what YOU think you owe now! I went through something similar and waited to pay anything until the whole thing was resolved. BIG mistake. The interest kept building even on the part I knew I legitimately owed. Also, make sure you're sending everything via certified mail with return receipt so you have proof of when they received your response. The IRS has been known to claim they never received documents. One more tip: call the audit contact number on your letter and ask if you can email documentation rather than mail it. Sometimes they'll give you a secure email option which speeds things up dramatically. Worth asking!
Thanks for the advice! I'll definitely pay what I calculated I owe now. How long did your audit process take from start to finish? I'm worried this is going to drag on for months.
My audit took about 4 months total from first notice to final resolution. However, I made the mistake of sending my initial response by regular mail, and they claimed they never received it, which added about 6 weeks to the process. Once they actually reviewed my documentation, things moved relatively quickly - about 3 weeks for them to send a response accepting most of my explanation. There was one additional clarification they needed, which took another 3-4 weeks to resolve. The whole thing would have been much faster if I'd used certified mail from the beginning and if I'd paid the undisputed amount immediately.
Be really careful about agreeing to pay anything until you're 100% certain of the correct amount! My sister paid what she thought she owed during an audit, but it turned out the IRS calculation was correct (she missed a 1099-K from PayPal). Because she had already paid a partial amount, they interpreted that as her agreeing to their assessment and it made fighting the rest harder. If you're absolutely positive about your numbers, then yes, pay what you calculated. But if there's any doubt, maybe wait until you speak with a tax pro first. The interest isn't that much for a few weeks while you confirm your calculations.
That's bad advice. IRS charges both penalties AND interest, which can add up quickly. The failure-to-pay penalty is 0.5% of the unpaid taxes for each month, plus interest at the federal short-term rate plus 3%. You can always get a refund if you overpay, but you can't get penalties back as easily.
Have you considered just keeping it until the loan is paid off? If you sell now for $29K with $31K left on the loan, you'll have to come out of pocket for the $2K difference PLUS pay taxes on the depreciation recapture. That's a double financial hit. If the car is still functional and you're using it for business, it might make more financial sense to just keep it until you're at least above water on the loan before selling.
This is actually really good advice. I was in a similar position with a business vehicle and decided to keep it for an extra year. By that time, I had paid down the loan enough that the sale covered the remaining balance. Plus I was in a lower tax bracket that year, so the depreciation recapture hit me less hard.
Something nobody's mentioned - you might look into trading it in for another qualifying heavy vehicle rather than selling it outright. If you do a like-kind exchange for another business vehicle, you might be able to defer the depreciation recapture. The rules got tighter with the 2017 tax law changes, but there are still some options for vehicular business assets. Talk to a tax pro about Section 1031 exchanges and if any provisions might help in your specific situation.
A quick note on Form 8606 that I don't think was mentioned yet - make sure you're keeping copies of ALL your 8606 forms indefinitely. The IRS doesn't track your nondeductible basis for you, so these forms are your only proof that you've already paid tax on those contributions if you get audited years later. I learned this the hard way!
How far back should we keep them? I've been doing backdoor Roth conversions for about 8 years now but honestly not sure if I still have all the forms.
You should keep them forever, honestly. The IRS doesn't have a central system tracking your nondeductible basis, so those forms are your only proof that you already paid tax on those contributions. If you're missing some forms from previous years, you might want to request transcripts from the IRS for those tax years to see if you can reconstruct your basis history. The problem is that if you can't prove your basis and you take distributions later, the IRS might treat the entire distribution as taxable, even though you already paid tax on those contributions.
Something that tripped me up when filling out form 8606 was that tax software can mess this up! TurboTax kept putting my nondeductible IRA contribution on the wrong line and I had to manually override it. Double check the final form before filing!
Mei Lin
Just a heads up from someone who's been filing as a digital nomad for years - you probably want to look into whether you qualify for the Foreign Earned Income Exclusion (Form 2555). If you spent enough time outside the US (330+ days in a 12-month period), you can exclude a significant chunk of your income from US taxation. Also look into state taxes - some states consider you a resident if you maintain a permanent address there, even if you're physically abroad most of the year. Others will let you file as a non-resident if you can prove you lived elsewhere.
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Liam Fitzgerald
ā¢Regarding state taxes - is there any documentation I should keep to prove I was living abroad if my permanent address is still in the US? I'm worried my home state (California) will try to tax me even though I've been in Europe for most of the year.
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Mei Lin
ā¢For state tax residence documentation, keep copies of rental agreements, utility bills in your name from your foreign residence, entry/exit stamps in your passport, and airline tickets. California is particularly aggressive about claiming residents, so you'll want solid proof you've established a temporary residence elsewhere. If you're maintaining any California ties (driver's license, voter registration, bank accounts, etc.), document when those will be changed to your new location. Some digital nomads even take the step of establishing residency in a no-income-tax state before leaving the US, though that requires more planning and legitimate ties to that state.
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GalacticGuru
Has anyone used FreeTaxUSA for filing as a self-employed expat? TurboTax is crazy expensive for their "self-employed" version but I'm not sure which software actually handles all the expat forms correctly?
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Amara Nnamani
ā¢I've used FreeTaxUSA for the past 2 years as a self-employed person living in Germany. They support all the forms you'd need including Schedule C, Form 2555 for Foreign Earned Income Exclusion, Form 1116 for Foreign Tax Credit, etc. Much cheaper than TurboTax and has worked great for my situation.
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