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Do you have to file taxes to carry over capital losses for future years?

I'm in kind of a tricky situation with my taxes and capital losses. Last year I had some investments that didn't work out, and I ended up with a pretty significant net capital loss when I filed. Now this year, I'm not going to have any income at all (long story - taking a year off to handle some family stuff). What I'm worried about is whether I need to file taxes again this year even with zero income just to maintain that capital loss carryover. If I don't file anything this year, will I completely lose the ability to use those losses in future years when I'm working again? Or does the IRS automatically keep track of that stuff? Really don't want to forfeit those losses since they could save me a good chunk on taxes once I'm earning again.

This is a good question many people overlook! You should absolutely file a tax return even with zero income to preserve your capital loss carryover. The IRS doesn't automatically track and carry forward your losses - you need to document them each year on your tax return. If you don't file, technically those losses don't disappear forever, but you create a big documentation gap that could cause problems if you're ever audited. File Form 1040 and include Schedule D to show the capital loss carryover from last year. There's a specific line for carrying over your previous year's losses. Think of it like keeping a receipt for a future refund - if you don't maintain the paperwork trail, it becomes much harder to claim later.

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Wait, so even if I have literally $0 income I still need to file? I thought there was some minimum threshold before you have to submit anything? I'm in a similar situation but with about $8k in capital losses from 2023.

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There is a minimum income threshold before you're required to file, but in this case, you would be filing voluntarily to maintain your documentation of the capital loss carryover. It's not that you're legally obligated to file with zero income, but rather that filing is the proper way to document and preserve those losses for future use. The capital loss gets reported on Schedule D and Form 8949, and the unused portion carries forward. Without filing, you risk complications when trying to apply those losses in future years, as there would be no official record of the carryover.

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How does this work exactly? Can it handle complex situations like partially used losses from previous years? I've got about $12k in losses from both stocks and crypto that I'm carrying over.

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Sounds a bit sketchy tbh. Wouldn't TurboTax or something handle this just as easily? Not sure why I'd need a special service just for capital loss carryovers.

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It handles complex situations really well. You upload your previous tax documents and it specifically identifies carryover amounts and tracks them across multiple years. It's especially helpful with crypto losses where the documentation can get messy. As for why not just use TurboTax, sure you could, but this tool is more specialized for document analysis. I found it actually explained the why behind the recommendations rather than just filling in forms. It showed me exactly how my losses would offset future gains and ordinary income which made the whole process much clearer.

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Just to add one more thing that nobody mentioned - if you're going to file a tax return with zero income just to maintain your capital loss carryover, you can e-file for free through the IRS Free File program regardless of your income level in previous years. No need to pay for tax software just to document your carryover.

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That's really helpful, thanks! Do you know if I need to include any special forms besides Schedule D for the capital loss carryover? And will Free File guide me through that process?

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You'll need Form 1040 (the main tax return), Schedule D (Capital Gains and Losses), and possibly Form 8949 (Sales and Other Dispositions of Capital Assets) depending on your specific situation. These forms work together to document your capital loss carryover. Yes, the IRS Free File program will guide you through completing these forms. Most Free File software will ask about capital losses from previous years and help you properly document the carryover. Just make sure you have your previous year's tax return handy so you can accurately enter the carryover amount.

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I actually went through this exact scenario with capital losses a few years back. Make ABSOLUTELY SURE you file - I skipped one year thinking it didn't matter with no income and it caused a huge headache. The IRS flagged my return when I tried to use those losses two years later.

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Did you end up losing the deduction completely or were you able to fix it somehow?

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