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Matthew Sanchez

Fed up with Clients bringing Fake Financials - Any other Tax Pros dealing with this nightmare?

I swear I'm at my breaking point with business owners who waltz into my office, slide a spreadsheet across my desk, and have the nerve to call it "true and accurate financial statements." The complete lack of real accounting or proper bookkeeping drives me insane! I can see right through what they're doing. They got their 1099-Ks showing $675K in credit card collections, but magically have just enough expenses listed to show only $6,800 in taxable income. The numbers don't add up! Then when I ask about cash or check payments, they suddenly remember "oh yeah, maybe like $1,300 in cash sales" as an afterthought. Sure, buddy. Looking at their statement of expenses, it's laughable - 90% of the numbers end in zeros or fives. Like they just made them up on the spot (which they clearly did). No receipts, no documentation, just numbers pulled from thin air. Anyone else dealing with this nightmare? How do you handle clients who clearly fabricate their financials but expect you to put your license on the line for their tax return?

Ella Thompson

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I've been a tax preparer for over 15 years and this is unfortunately extremely common. The best approach I've found is setting clear expectations up front. Before any new business client signs on, I explain that I require proper documentation for all expenses over $250, bank statements that match their claimed income, and proper categorization of expenses. When clients bring in those obviously fabricated spreadsheets, I hand them a simple bookkeeping template and explain that without proper documentation, I cannot prepare their return. It's uncomfortable, but I remind them that signing off on incorrect information puts both of us at risk. Try implementing a system where you provide clients with quarterly bookkeeping check-ins. This helps them stay organized throughout the year rather than scrambling at tax time. Also, consider requiring cloud accounting software that connects directly to their bank accounts - this dramatically improves accuracy.

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JacksonHarris

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Do you ever lose clients when you push back on their fake numbers? I'm afraid of losing business if I'm too strict, but I also don't want to risk my license.

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Ella Thompson

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I definitely lost a few clients in the beginning when I implemented stricter documentation requirements. But honestly, those were the exact clients who were causing me the most stress and liability risk. The clients worth keeping will respect your professionalism and adapt to proper bookkeeping practices. Plus, once word gets around that you're thorough and professional, you'll attract better clients who value compliance and accuracy. The short-term revenue hit was worth the reduced stress and better quality client base I have now.

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Royal_GM_Mark

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Mia Alvarez

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This might be unpopular, but I've started charging extra for clients who bring in disorganized or obviously fake records. I have a tiered pricing structure - clients with proper bookkeeping pay my standard rate, while those with "creative accounting" pay 1.5-2x more to compensate for the additional work and risk. I explain this policy upfront so there are no surprises. Some clients clean up their act to avoid the higher fees, and others are willing to pay extra for me to sort through their mess. Either way, I'm compensated for the headache.

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Carter Holmes

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Do you have any suggestions for how to determine what falls into the "higher fee" category? Do you have specific criteria or is it more of a judgment call?

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Mia Alvarez

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I've developed a pretty clear checklist that I review with clients in our initial consultation. Higher fees apply if their records show: unsorted receipts/statements, missing months of data, personal expenses mixed with business, revenues that don't match 1099s or bank deposits, or rounded numbers for most expenses (like you mentioned). I also charge more if they bring everything in last minute (less than 3 weeks before deadline) or if they have no formal bookkeeping system at all. Having clear criteria makes it less personal and more about the actual work involved. I've found being transparent about this from the start weeds out problem clients and encourages others to get organized.

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Sophia Long

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Am I the only one who actually just refuses these clients? After being burned a few times early in my career, I now have a strict policy: no proper books = no service. Life's too short and my license is too valuable.

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How do you screen for this before taking them on? Do you have some kind of initial assessment process?

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