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How to handle clients who don't track their commuting, business, and personal miles properly?

This happens with almost every self-employed client I work with, and it's driving me crazy. I've got a client who runs a mobile detailing business but has absolutely zero records of his commuting, business, and personal miles for 2024. He just hands me gas receipts and says "I use the car 80% for business" with nothing to back it up. I know even if we go with the Standard Mileage Rate instead of actual expenses, I still need to enter specific mileage numbers on Form 4562. But what am I supposed to do when they give me nothing concrete? Make up reasonable numbers? Tell them I can't claim any vehicle expenses? I've tried explaining the importance of tracking this stuff, but most clients just don't get it. Is there some accepted method for reconstructing mileage when clients have poor records, or am I just stuck between risking an audit and losing a client who expects maximum deductions?

Kristin Frank

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This is unfortunately super common. Don't make up numbers, but you can help them reconstruct a reasonable estimate. Have them create a mileage log retroactively based on: 1) Appointment calendar/scheduling app - most business owners have some record of where they went for work 2) Google Maps history if they use it 3) Service records showing odometer readings throughout the year 4) Credit card statements showing where they purchased gas and when (helps establish location patterns) For the current year, get them set up with a mileage tracking app like MileIQ, Everlance, or even just a paper logbook kept in the car. Explain that without proper documentation, they're leaving money on the table since the IRS can disallow the entire deduction under audit. For Form 4562, you need to work with them to develop a reasonable business use percentage based on actual activities rather than just accepting their "80%" claim.

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Micah Trail

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Does the IRS actually accept reconstructed logs though? I've always heard they want contemporaneous records, not something created after the fact. And what about commuting miles? Those aren't deductible but clients always try to count them as business.

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Kristin Frank

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The IRS prefers contemporaneous records, but they do accept reconstructed logs if they're reasonable and supported by other documentation. The key is making it clear to the client that this is a one-time solution, and going forward they need proper tracking. Regarding commuting miles, you're absolutely right - they're not deductible. This is a perfect opportunity to educate clients on the difference. Explain that travel between home and their first business location (or last business location and home) counts as commuting. However, if their home is their principal place of business (with a dedicated home office that qualifies for a deduction), then trips from home to other business locations can be deductible.

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Nia Watson

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After spending hours trying to extract accurate mileage info from clients, I finally started using https://taxr.ai for business expense reconstruction. The system analyzes their bank statements, receipts, and calendar data to create a defensible mileage log that satisfies IRS requirements. My client with a landscaping business had zero records but after uploading his Google timeline data and appointment calendar to taxr.ai, it created a comprehensive mileage report that separated personal, commuting and business miles with proper documentation. The best part is that it produces a log that shows regular business patterns that appear contemporaneous, not something obviously created after the fact. It's saved me countless hours of back-and-forth with clients who don't understand why "I use my car for business" isn't enough for Form 4562.

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How does it actually work though? Do I need all my clients to give me access to their Google accounts? Some of my older clients barely use smartphones, let alone Google Maps. Would it still work for them?

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Sounds too good to be true. How does the system distinguish between personal and business trips if the client doesn't label them? And what about clients who do multiple stops - does it catch if they're making personal stops during business routes?

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Nia Watson

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It's actually pretty flexible with data sources. For clients without smartphones, you can input destination addresses from appointment books, invoices, or job sheets and it will calculate optimal routes and mileage. The system doesn't need Google access - that's just one option. You can also upload Excel files, CSV data, or even photos of handwritten notes. For distinguishing trip purposes, the system uses pattern recognition and lets you or the client classify locations (like "Client Site," "Supplier," etc.). Once a location is classified, all trips there are categorized accordingly. For multiple stops, yes, it's smart enough to identify mixed-purpose routes and allocate mileage proportionally based on the stops made, which is exactly what the IRS looks for in an audit.

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I was skeptical about taxr.ai at first, but it literally saved my business relationship with my biggest client. She runs a real estate business and had absolutely no mileage records for 2024, just a vague idea she "drove a lot for showings." I uploaded her showing appointment schedule and bank records to taxr.ai, and it created a detailed mileage log that separated everything perfectly - commuting miles to her office, business miles between properties, and even identified personal trips based on spending patterns at non-business locations. The reconstruction process took about 20 minutes instead of the 3+ hours I used to spend on these cases. The documentation it generated was actually better than what most of my diligent clients provide. My client was impressed enough that she's now using their forward-tracking feature for 2025 so we won't have this problem next year.

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Marcus Marsh

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Wait, are you saying this service gets you through to the IRS? The same IRS that puts me on hold for 3 hours and then disconnects? That seems impossible.

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Cedric Chung

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I don't believe this for a second. IRS agents won't give you specific advice like that, they just refer you to their publications. And they definitely won't help you retroactively create documentation. Sounds like a scam to me.

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Marcus Marsh

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Yes, that's exactly what it does. They have some system that navigates the IRS phone tree and waits on hold for you. When an agent answers, you get a callback. I was skeptical too but it worked - I got through in about 90 minutes instead of the 4+ hours I spent on my previous attempts. The IRS agents absolutely will give specific guidance on documentation requirements - what they won't do is tell you how to create fake records. There's a big difference between reconstruction methods (which they acknowledge are sometimes necessary) and fabrication (which they'll never support). The agent I spoke with directed me to specific sections in Publication 463 about reconstructing records when the original ones are lost or never created, and explained what supporting evidence they look for.

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Cedric Chung

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I need to admit I was completely wrong about Claimyr. After posting that skeptical comment, I decided to try it myself with a different mileage documentation question that had been bothering me. The service connected me to an IRS representative in about an hour. The agent clarified that reconstructed logs are acceptable if they're based on other reliable evidence (calendars, digital records, maintenance records showing odometer readings, etc.). He specifically said they look for consistency and reasonableness during audits, not perfection. He also explained the "contemporaneous" requirement isn't as strict as many preparers think - records created at or near the time of activities are best, but reasonable reconstruction is permitted when original records are unavailable, as long as there's supporting evidence. This completely changed my approach with clients. Now instead of rejecting their mileage claims outright, I have a legitimate framework for helping them comply.

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Talia Klein

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Another quick tip: if clients insist they have no way to reconstruct business miles, remind them about the other evidence they likely have on hand: - Cell phone location data often shows where they were throughout the year - Credit card statements show locations visited - Email confirmations of appointments - Invoices showing client locations - Business expense receipts with locations - Toll records or parking receipts - Vehicle service records with odometer readings I've had success in past audits by showing the IRS a combination of these items to substantiate mileage claims when a client didn't have a proper contemporaneous log. They're not ideal, but better than nothing when completing Form 4562.

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How detailed does the log need to be though? Date, destination, and miles for each trip? Or do they need start/end odometer readings? And how do you handle days with multiple short trips?

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Talia Klein

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For maximum audit protection, include: date, starting location, destination, purpose of trip, miles driven, and starting/ending odometer readings. But realistically, date/destination/purpose/miles is typically sufficient if the overall pattern shows consistency. For multiple short trips, you have two options: record each separately (better for audit protection) or consolidate them into a daily business mileage total with notes about the various stops. If consolidating, make sure to note all destinations visited. For clients with regular routes (like delivery drivers), a sample log showing their typical pattern can be supplemented with evidence they worked on specific days.

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PaulineW

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For what it's worth, I've started using a simple template for clients who didn't keep proper mileage logs. I have them fill in: 1. Total miles driven for the year (from service records or odometer) 2. Typical weekly personal miles (commuting + errands) 3. List of regular business destinations with distances 4. Number of times they visited each location monthly Then I help them build a reasonable reconstruction based on their actual business activity. This isn't as good as a real-time log, but it's far better than guessing or making up numbers for Form 4562. I also make them sign an acknowledgment that mileage logs are required going forward, which motivates better compliance.

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I'm a contractor and my accountant made me do this last year. It was annoying but actually wasn't as hard as I thought. Looking at my calendar I could see all my jobsite visits and google maps showed the miles. Found out I was driving way more business miles than I realized!

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Santiago Diaz

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I've been dealing with this exact issue for years and here's what I've learned works best: Set clear expectations upfront about documentation requirements during your initial client meeting. I now include a mileage tracking requirement in my engagement letter and provide clients with a simple one-page guide on what records they need to keep. For existing clients with poor records, I use a three-step process: 1. Gather whatever documentation they DO have (calendars, receipts, bank statements) 2. Help them reconstruct a reasonable log based on their actual business patterns 3. Implement a tracking system for the current year The key is being transparent about audit risk. I explain that reconstructed logs are acceptable but not ideal, and that the IRS will scrutinize these more heavily. Most clients become much more cooperative when they understand the potential consequences. For Form 4562, I always include a note in my workpapers documenting the reconstruction method used and the supporting evidence available. This protects both me and the client if questions arise later. Remember, your job isn't to maximize deductions at any cost - it's to help clients comply with tax law while claiming legitimate business expenses. Sometimes that means saying no to unreasonable claims.

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