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Something else to consider - if you discover an excess contribution, you can actually remove it (plus any earnings on that excess amount) before your tax filing deadline to avoid the 6% penalty entirely. If you've already filed your 2020 return, you might still be able to fix this by filing an amended return. I made an excess contribution to my Roth last year and was able to call my brokerage and specifically request a "return of excess contribution" for the specific tax year. They calculated the earnings on that amount and distributed both back to me. Had to report the earnings as income for the year I received the distribution, but avoided the 6% penalty.

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Thanks for this tip! So if I understand correctly, I could still potentially avoid the penalty even now? My broker is Vanguard - would I just call them and ask for a "return of excess contribution" specifically for my 2020 contribution? Do you know if there's a time limit for doing this correction?

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Yes, you would call Vanguard and specifically request a "return of excess contribution" for tax year 2020. Be very clear about which tax year you're correcting. There is a time limit - ideally you want to do this before the tax filing deadline for that year (including extensions). Since we're well past the 2020 deadline, you'll still owe the 6% penalty for 2020, but removing the excess now stops you from owing the penalty for subsequent years too. The excess contribution continues to be penalized 6% every year until you either remove it or "absorb" it by using up part of a future year's contribution limit.

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Omar Fawaz

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Just to clarify what everyone is saying - yes, you will owe the 6% penalty. The "including 2020 contributions made in 2021" language specifically means the IRS wants you to pretend the money was there on Dec 31, 2020, even though it physically wasn't. I had the exact same situation last year and I used FreeTaxUSA to file. Their software actually has a pretty good walkthrough for Form 5329. Much better than TurboTax which kept giving me errors.

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I second FreeTaxUSA! TurboTax really struggles with Form 5329 and excess contributions. My tax preparer actually recommended I switch to FreeTaxUSA specifically for handling my IRA issues.

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7 Don't forget you can also file an extension! Form 4868 gives you until October 15 to file, though you still need to PAY what you estimate you owe by April 18. I'm a freelancer too and I often file extensions because I'm waiting on K-1 forms from investments. It gives me time to find the right tax pro rather than rushing with whoever has availability.

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22 How do you estimate what you owe if you don't have time to do the calculations? That's the part that confuses me about extensions.

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7 You make an educated guess based on last year's return and your current situation. The simplest method is to look at what you paid last year, then adjust up or down based on whether you earned more or less this year. You want to pay enough to avoid underpayment penalties. Another approach is to do a rough calculation using your 1099s and W-2s, estimating major deductions but not worrying about getting everything perfect. It's better to slightly overpay and get a refund later than underpay and face penalties. Just make sure to submit the payment with your extension form by April 18th.

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11 I was in your EXACT situation 2 years ago and I just walked into H&R Block with no appointment. They assigned me someone on the spot and I filed that day. It was more expensive than I wanted ($380) but the peace of mind was worth it. Just bring ALL your docs and they'll handle it.

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19 Did they actually save you money compared to TurboTax though? I've heard mixed things about H&R Block for anything complicated.

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Harmony Love

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This happened to me last year. The workaround I found was to transfer half of my AKREX holdings to my spouse's separate account. Since it was a different taxpayer ID, we were able to use specific identification method on those transferred shares. The IRS considers it a completely different tax situation. Keep in mind this only works if you're married and your spouse has a separate brokerage account (not a joint account). Also, the transfer isn't considered a taxable event since it's between spouses. Might be worth looking into if that applies to your situation.

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Rudy Cenizo

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Couldn't this be considered some kind of tax avoidance scheme? I thought the IRS had rules against transferring assets just to create tax advantages?

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Harmony Love

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Transfers between spouses are explicitly allowed under IRC Section 1041, which states that "no gain or loss shall be recognized on a transfer of property from an individual to a spouse." This isn't considered tax avoidance but a legitimate planning strategy. The key distinction is that my spouse is genuinely a different taxpayer with a separate SSN. Once the assets are transferred, they legitimately belong to my spouse, who then has the right to select their preferred cost basis method for those newly acquired shares. This differs from trying to change the method on your own shares after you've already made an election.

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Natalie Khan

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Has anyone tried using tax loss harvesting software like Betterment or Wealthfront for this kind of situation? I'm wondering if their automatic tax loss harvesting would handle the average cost basis problem better than trying to do it manually.

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Daryl Bright

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Those robo-advisors typically use specific identification method from the start, so they avoid the average cost basis problem entirely. But they won't help with existing mutual fund positions that are already using average cost basis. You'd have to sell everything (potentially creating a taxable event) and then move to their platform.

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Natalie Khan

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Thanks, that makes sense. I guess there's no easy solution once you're stuck with average cost basis. I'll make sure to use specific identification for any new investments going forward.

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Amara Okafor

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Have you considered just partnering with an existing community foundation? They already have the 501c3 structure in place and many offer "giving circles" as a service. That way you avoid all the administrative/legal complexity and can focus on building your community. The Columbus Foundation in my area hosts several giving circles and handles all the tax documentation.

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Ethan Moore

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That's a really interesting approach I hadn't thought of. Do you know if they take a percentage for administration, or how the fee structure typically works with community foundations?

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Amara Okafor

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Most community foundations charge an administrative fee between 1-3% of the assets they manage for giving circles. This typically covers tax reporting, donation processing, and basic administrative support. Some may have a minimum annual fee regardless of your circle's size, often around $500-1000. The advantage is they handle all the tax receipting, ensure donations go only to qualified organizations, and provide the legal structure that makes contributions tax-deductible for your members. Many will also provide a online platform for your giving circle to use. One thing to consider is that you'd need to operate within their policies, which might limit flexibility somewhat compared to running it yourself.

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Not a tax pro, but I ran something similar through my local Rotary club. Instead of creating a new structure, we just formed a committee within the existing nonprofit. Members pay their regular Rotary dues plus an optional giving circle contribution. The club already has the 501c3 and handles all the financial/legal stuff. We just focus on picking the charities.

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That's really smart! Did you have to get board approval or anything? Also do regular Rotary members get tax deductions for their contributions?

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Yara Assad

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The W4 form is terribly designed - they should rename Step 3 to "Credits" instead of making it seem like it's only for dependents. I've been doing taxes for 10+ years and even I get confused by the new W4 layout sometimes. Another note: if your income changes significantly during the year, you'll want to redo this calculation. The $701 is based on your current income and projected earnings for the rest of the year. Also check if your second job withholds at the correct rate - multiple jobs often leads to underwithholding if not set up properly.

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Thanks for mentioning this! My second job actually just increased my hours, so I'll probably be making about 25% more there than when I first did the W4 calculation. Should I just redo the entire IRS calculator or is there a simple adjustment I can make?

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Yara Assad

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Definitely redo the entire calculator with your updated income projections. There's no simple adjustment because the calculator is considering tax brackets, your whole annual income, and how much has already been withheld year-to-date. With a 25% increase at your second job, that could potentially push some of your income into a higher tax bracket, so you want the calculator to recompute everything. While you're at it, make sure both jobs have the correct W4 settings. For the highest-paying job, use the results from the calculator. For the second job, you might want to check the box in Step 2(c) or use the multiple jobs worksheet to ensure enough is being withheld there too.

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Olivia Clark

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When I got married I screwed this up and ended up owing $4,300 at tax time. The W4 calculator seems helpful but it assumes uniform income throughout the year. If you just got married and the calculator is telling you to put $701 in Step 3, that number is probably prorated for the remainder of the year. Next January, you should fill out a new W4 for the full year effect. Also, consider if you'll itemize deductions or take the standard deduction - this affects your withholding calculation too.

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This happened to me too! That $701 sounds about right for adjusting withholding after marriage mid-year. Just don't forget to submit a new W4 in January like others said.

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