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I went through bankruptcy with about $500k in IRS debt last year. Few things to keep in mind: 1) Make sure you file all required returns before bankruptcy. Any unfiled returns will definitely not be dischargeable. 2) Be careful about any transfers of assets in the years leading up to bankruptcy - the court looks back several years and can claw back anything they consider inappropriate. 3) Document EVERYTHING about your current financial situation very thoroughly. The courts are more skeptical when large tax debts are involved. 4) The IRS will scrutinize your case much more closely than a typical bankruptcy. They may send their own attorneys to challenge the discharge of tax debt. 5) Your trading accounts and history will be examined closely. Be prepared to explain any large withdrawals. Good luck! It's a stressful process but there is light at the end of the tunnel.
Thanks for sharing your experience! How long did the whole process take from filing to discharge? And if you don't mind sharing, were you able to get all of your tax debt discharged or just a portion?
The entire process took about 9 months from filing to discharge, which is longer than typical bankruptcies. The tax components definitely slow things down because the IRS reviews everything carefully. I was able to get about 80% of my tax debt discharged. The remaining 20% wasn't dischargeable because those taxes were from a year where I filed late and hadn't yet hit the 2-year mark from filing date. I ended up on a payment plan for that portion, but having 80% wiped out made that manageable.
Don't overlook the emotional toll this will take. Bankruptcy with the IRS involved is WAY more stressful than regular bankruptcy. I went thru this in 2022 and spent almost every night unable to sleep. Get some support - therapist, support group, whatever. The stress can be unbearable especially when ur young and feel like ur life is ruined. Also prepare for after bankruptcy. Trading might be harder without capital. Have a backup plan for income. The discharge feels amazing but then reality hits that you need to rebuild completely.
This is so true. I went through tax bankruptcy last year and the emotional side was the hardest part. Did you find that lenders were especially harsh because it was tax debt rather than credit cards or medical bills? I've been struggling to rebuild my credit because it seems like lenders see tax bankruptcy as a bigger red flag.
Something nobody's mentioned yet - make sure your mom doesn't claim herself as independent on her own tax return if she files one for her part-time job. You'll both get flagged if she claims herself and you also claim her as a dependent.
This! My brother and I got audited because my mom filed her own taxes claiming herself while my brother also claimed her. What a nightmare that was to sort out.
Have you tried looking into tax attorneys who offer consultation services? I had a similar situation last year when I was starting a small business but wanted to handle the ongoing tax work myself. I found a tax attorney who charged me for a 2-hour consultation where I brought all my questions. She answered everything, gave me some resources to reference, and didn't try to sell me on recurring services. It wasn't cheap (about $400 for the session), but the advice saved me probably thousands in potential mistakes.
That's an interesting approach. Did you just search for "tax attorney consultation" or how did you find someone willing to do this?
I actually found her through my state's bar association website. They have a referral service where you can search for attorneys by specialty and many list whether they offer consultation services. I called a few and specifically asked about a one-time paid consultation. A good approach is to be very clear upfront about what you want - I literally said "I'm looking for a one-time paid consultation to get answers to specific tax questions as I'll be handling my own filing." Some weren't interested, but others were perfectly happy with this arrangement.
Don't overlook the free resources! I know you said you're willing to pay, but I've had great experiences with VITA (Volunteer Income Tax Assistance) volunteers. If your income is under $60k, they offer free tax help. Even if you don't qualify for their free filing help, many of the volunteers are really knowledgeable and can answer questions. The same goes for Tax-Aide from AARP - they focus on seniors but often help others too.
Can confirm this! I volunteered with VITA for 3 years and we regularly had people come in just to ask questions about their tax situation. As long as it's not during the busiest parts of tax season, most volunteers are happy to help even if you're not having them prepare your return.
As a manager, this is actually concerning from a financial literacy standpoint. My company started offering basic financial wellness sessions because we found similar misconceptions were common. Your employee isn't alone - a survey from a few years ago found that about 40% of Americans didn't understand that tax refunds are returns of their own money. Many see it as a "bonus" and plan major purchases around it. Maybe suggest some basic financial literacy resources rather than just being frustrated? Part of leadership is helping team members grow, and this could be a growth opportunity.
Do you have any recommendations for resources I could share? I'm worried about coming across as condescending since we already had that awkward conversation. I'd like to help without making him feel stupid.
The Consumer Financial Protection Bureau has free, straightforward resources that explain tax basics without being condescending. You could also look into whether your company's benefits include any financial wellness tools - many do these days, often through the same providers that handle 401(k) plans. A low-key approach might be sending resources to your whole team rather than singling him out. Something like "Found these helpful tax planning resources as we head toward year-end" could provide the information without embarrassment. The IRS also has surprisingly readable explainers on their website about withholding and how to adjust it.
Sadly, I've found that a lot of people look forward to tax season specifically for this "bonus" and build it into their annual financial planning. My sister literally plans her family vacation around her tax refund every year, and gets angry when I try to explain she could have that money throughout the year instead. Some people actually use overwithholding as a forced savings method because they know they wouldn't save the money if it came in smaller amounts in their regular paychecks. In a weird way, it makes sense psychologically, even though financially it's giving an interest-free loan to the government.
This is actually me! I know it's not the financially optimal choice, but I deliberately overwithhold because I'm terrible at saving small amounts. Getting that big check once a year lets me make major purchases or pay down debt in meaningful chunks. It's like a forced savings account where I can't access the money until tax time.
Amina Sy
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Oliver Fischer
ā¢Do you know if FreeTaxUSA can import previous year's TurboTax returns? Or would I need to enter everything manually the first time I switch?
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Amina Sy
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Natasha Ivanova
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NebulaNomad
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