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Dylan Baskin
A big thing you need to figure out is your cost basis. Since you inherited the stock, your basis should be the fair market value on the date of death (or alternate valuation date if the executor chose that). This is called a "stepped-up basis." For a large inheritance like that, there should be estate documents that show the valuation. Make sure you have those before filing, because using the wrong basis could cost you thousands in deductions.
Lauren Wood
ā¢What happens if you can't find documentation of the exact value on date of death? My dad left me some stocks but passed away during COVID and everything's a mess with paperwork.
Dylan Baskin
ā¢If you can't find the documentation, you can try to reconstruct it. You'll need to determine the date of death and then research what the stock was trading for on that day - most financial websites have historical price data. Get the closing price on that date and multiply by the number of shares. If it was a significant inheritance, the estate may have filed an estate tax return (Form 706) which would have the valuation. You can request a copy from the IRS with Form 4506. Another option is to contact the broker who handled the account - they often have historical valuations on record.
Ellie Lopez
Everyone is talking about tax benefits, but has anyone considered that some of these failed bank stocks might actually recover some value? After Washington Mutual collapsed in 2008, the worthless stock (WAMUQ) actually traded up to about 50 cents from nearly zero as speculators bet on leftover assets.
That's actually a good point. I was holding onto some Lehman Brothers shares after they went bankrupt thinking they might bounce back, but in the end I would have been better off just taking the tax loss. The shares did briefly spike to about 20 cents though.
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Check if you have any other income sources that aren't having taxes withheld. We had a similar shock one year because my side business and some investments weren't withholding anything. Also check if you're claiming all possible deductions - mortgage interest, student loan interest, retirement contributions, etc. Those can make a big difference.
We don't have any side businesses, but we do have some investments that probably didn't have withholding. And we're not homeowners yet so no mortgage interest. Do retirement contributions through our employers' 401k plans automatically reduce our taxable income or do we need to do something special to claim that?
401k contributions through your employers should automatically reduce your taxable income - they're taken out pre-tax so they already lowered the W-2 income reported to the IRS. You don't need to do anything special to claim those. If you have investment income without withholding, that's likely contributing to your tax bill. For the future, you might want to make quarterly estimated tax payments on that income, or increase your W-4 withholding to cover it. The key is making sure you're paying enough tax throughout the year one way or another.
Ethan Davis
Is anyone using TurboTax for this situation? I have a similar issue and wondering if the premium version helps with this or if I need to see an actual tax professional.
Yuki Tanaka
ā¢I use TurboTax Premium and it does have a W-4 calculator that can help with this. After you complete your return, it offers to help you update your W-4 for next year based on your results. It's pretty helpful but honestly I still found it confusing when dealing with two incomes.
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One thing nobody's mentioned yet is that you might qualify for the IRS Fresh Start Program. It's not exactly one specific program but a collection of tax relief options with more flexible terms. I went through this when I owed about $32k in back taxes. The key qualification factors they looked at were my income, expenses, assets, and ability to pay. In my case, I qualified for an extended installment agreement that gave me 6 years to pay instead of the standard 3 years. Whatever you do, don't fall for those "settle for pennies on the dollar" ads you hear on the radio. Most people don't qualify for that level of reduction, and many of those companies charge thousands upfront with no guarantees.
Vince Eh
ā¢Do you have to have a certain amount of tax debt to qualify for the Fresh Start stuff? I owe about $8,500 from 2022 and 2023... is that even enough to bother with these programs?
There's no minimum debt requirement for the Fresh Start provisions, so your $8,500 definitely qualifies. For smaller debts like yours, you might especially benefit from the streamlined installment agreement option, which has simplified application requirements for debts under $50,000. With $8,500, you might also consider whether you have any means to fully pay the debt, such as a personal loan with a lower interest rate than the IRS charges. The IRS interest and penalties continue to accrue even while you're on a payment plan, so sometimes it makes financial sense to pay it off another way if possible. But if that's not an option, definitely look into the streamlined installment agreement.
Watch out for the 10-year statute of limitations on tax debt! The IRS generally has 10 years from the date of assessment to collect. If you're close to that 10-year mark on any of your back taxes, sometimes waiting it out (or getting into Currently Not Collectible status) can be a legitimate strategy. But be careful - certain actions can extend that 10-year period, like submitting an Offer in Compromise, filing for bankruptcy, or leaving the country for an extended period. I made the mistake of applying for an OIC that got rejected, and it added almost 2 years to my collection statute. Also, filing returns for older years can actually restart that 10-year clock, so you might want to consult with a tax pro before filing very old returns.
This sounds like you're advising tax evasion which is literally a crime. You should ALWAYS file your tax returns even if you can't pay. Not filing is way worse than filing and setting up a payment plan.
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Just wanted to mention that if you're only filing a few 1099-NECs, you can file them for free directly on the IRS website through the FIRE system. No need to buy forms or pay for services if you're comfortable navigating the government website.
Andre Dupont
ā¢I tried using the IRS site but got super confused. Is there a specific tutorial you followed to figure it out?
The IRS site is definitely not the most user-friendly, I'll admit. I found their tutorial in Publication 1220, but it's pretty technical. Here's what worked for me: create an account first, then go to the "Filing Information Returns Electronically" (FIRE) section. For simpler guidance, I actually ended up watching a YouTube tutorial someone made that walked through the process step by step. Just search "how to file 1099-NEC on IRS FIRE system" and you'll find several helpful videos that are much clearer than the official instructions.
Hey I went through this exact thing last month! I only had one contractor but got the 3-up form. I just filled out the top section and left the rest blank. Mailed it in and everything was fine. Don't overthink it!
ThunderBolt7
ā¢Did you also e-file with the IRS or just mail the paper form? I'm trying to figure out the easiest way.
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As a former IRS employee, I strongly recommend looking into the Taxpayer Advocate Service as mentioned above. But also consider calling the direct number for the auditor assigned to your case (should be on your audit letter). They can often work with you directly if you're upfront about your situation. Also, you might qualify for audit reconsideration if you have new information or documentation that wasn't previously considered. This can be done without representation. The key is staying organized and responding to all IRS communications promptly. Many audits get worse simply because people avoid dealing with them out of fear.
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Amara Nnamani
ā¢Thanks for the insider perspective! My audit letter does have a specific person's name and number. I've tried calling a few times but always get voicemail. Is it better to keep trying that direct line or go through the main IRS number?
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StarSailor}
ā¢Definitely keep trying the direct line to your assigned auditor. Leave detailed but brief voicemails with your name, tax ID number (last 4 digits only for security), and the best time to reach you. Most auditors handle multiple cases and check messages regularly, even if they don't answer calls immediately. The main IRS line will just put you in the general queue and whoever answers likely won't have immediate access to your specific case details. Your assigned auditor already knows your file and has the authority to make decisions on your case. Persistence is key - try calling at different times of the day, especially early morning right when offices open.
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Miguel Silva
I went through an audit last year and found that my local H&R Block office offered audit representation services for about $850, which was way less than what tax relief companies quoted me. Also check with any tax preparer who may have done your original return - they sometimes include audit protection for returns they prepared, even from previous years.
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Zainab Ismail
ā¢How did that work out for you? Did they manage to reduce what you owed? I've heard mixed things about H&R Block's representation services.
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