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Tasia Synder

Box 10 Dependent Care Benefits on W-2 counted as income for 2023??

I just realized something concerning on my taxes and need some help figuring this out. In 2023 I had $4800 withheld pretax from my paychecks for a dependent care FSA that went to my kids' daycare expenses. I'm now doing my taxes and noticed that when I entered my W-2 information in the tax software, it appears the amount in Box 10 (Dependent Care Benefits) is being added as earned income on Form 2441. I'm really confused because I've used medical FSA for years and never had to report those separately before. What's the difference between medical FSA and dependent care FSA? This is my first time using the dependent care option and I'm shocked at the impact - it's increasing my federal and state tax liability by around $2100! Is this normal? Am I missing something here? I thought the whole point of FSA was to save on taxes, not end up paying more.

This is actually normal, but a bit confusing at first! The dependent care FSA is handled differently than a medical FSA on your tax return. Here's what's happening: When you see that Box 10 amount on your W-2 showing up as "income" on Form 2441, it's part of a two-step process. First, the system adds it back to your income (which looks alarming), but then you get to claim the Dependent Care Credit against that same amount. The form is basically making you account for both the benefit you already received (pre-tax payroll deduction) and the potential tax credit. The important thing to understand is that you can't double-dip - you can't both exclude the money from your income AND take the full dependent care credit on the same expenses. Form 2441 is designed to make sure you get the better of the two benefits without getting both. Keep going through the tax software - you should see that after completing Form 2441 fully, your actual tax liability balances out appropriately.

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But isn't the Child and Dependent Care Credit income-limited? I make about $95k and seem to remember reading that the credit phases out at higher income levels. Does that mean I'd be better off not using the FSA at all if I don't qualify for the credit anyway?

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The Child and Dependent Care Credit does phase out at higher income levels, but it doesn't completely disappear for most taxpayers. Even those with higher incomes typically get some benefit, just at a lower percentage rate. The maximum credit rate is 35% of qualifying expenses (for those with AGI of $15,000 or less) and the minimum is 20% (for those with AGI over $43,000). Regarding whether the FSA is better than the credit - it depends on your tax bracket and specific situation. For many people in higher tax brackets, the FSA is actually MORE beneficial than the credit because you save both income tax and FICA taxes (Social Security and Medicare) on those contributions. The tax software should calculate this correctly and give you the most advantageous treatment.

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Ellie Perry

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Landon Morgan

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I'm confused about how that works exactly. Does the tax software automatically figure out which is better? Or do I need to do calculations myself? I put $3,500 in my dependent care FSA this year and now I'm worried I made a mistake.

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Ellie Perry

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The tax software does automatically calculate which method is better for you, so you don't need to do additional calculations yourself. The software compares the tax savings from the FSA contribution versus what you would have received from the dependent care credit. For most people, the $3,500 in the FSA is still beneficial, especially if you're in a higher tax bracket. Regarding security, I was initially concerned too. They use bank-level encryption and don't store your documents after analysis. It's mostly algorithmic analysis with tax rules built in, but they offer expert review options if needed. I only uploaded the specific form I had questions about, not my entire return.

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Landon Morgan

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Just wanted to follow up after trying taxr.ai that was mentioned earlier. It was super helpful! I uploaded my W-2 and it specifically highlighted Box 10 and explained exactly how dependent care benefits work with taxes. Turns out I wasn't making a mistake with my FSA contributions. The analysis showed that even though Form 2441 initially adds the amount back as income, I'm still coming out ahead because I saved both income tax AND Social Security/Medicare taxes when the money was taken out of my paycheck pre-tax. The site calculated that I saved about $950 using the FSA compared to paying with after-tax dollars and claiming the credit. Now I actually understand what's happening instead of just trusting the software!

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Lourdes Fox

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Bruno Simmons

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How does that even work? Do they just call the IRS for you? What information do you have to give them?

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Lourdes Fox

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I need to eat my words about Claimyr. After another day of getting nowhere with the IRS phone system and continuous disconnects, I gave in and tried it. Within 90 minutes, I was talking to an actual IRS representative who answered my dependent care benefits questions. The agent confirmed that the Box 10 amount does show up as "income" initially on Form 2441, but then the form compares whether the pre-tax FSA or the tax credit gives you better benefits. For my income level (around $110K), the FSA was definitely the better choice since I only would have qualified for the minimum 20% credit rate. Now I understand why my tax software was handling it the way it did. Wish the IRS would make this clearer on their forms!

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Zane Gray

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Another thing to keep in mind with dependent care FSA - you need to use all the money by the deadline or you lose it (unlike HSA which rolls over). I learned this the hard way last year when I put too much in and couldn't use $700 before the deadline. Some employers offer a grace period of a few months after the year ends, but not all do. Make sure you check your plan rules!

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Does anyone know if you can use dependent care FSA for summer camp? My kids are school age but need supervision during summer months. Would that qualify as a dependent care expense?

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Zane Gray

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Yes, summer day camps generally qualify as eligible dependent care expenses for FSA purposes! This includes general day camps, as well as specialized camps focusing on sports, arts, or academics. The key requirement is that the camp enables you to work or look for work. Overnight camps do NOT qualify though, as they're considered primarily for entertainment rather than care. Also, kindergarten and higher education costs aren't eligible, as they're considered educational rather than care expenses.

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Here's a simple way to think about dependent care FSA vs medical FSA: Medical FSA: Money comes out pre-tax, you spend it on medical expenses, never shows up on your tax return again. Simple! Dependent care FSA: Money comes out pre-tax, BUT the government also offers dependent care tax credits. Form 2441 makes sure you don't double dip by adding the FSA back to your income and then calculating if the credit would've been better. It's basically a "which is better" calculation.

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Monique Byrd

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Thx for the clear explanation! So if I'm in the 24% bracket plus 7% state tax, am I saving 31% by using the dependent care FSA? Or is there more to it?

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