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Something you might consider - what about buying the truck in December, but doing a sale-leaseback arrangement with a third party until January? That way you secure the vehicle now but technically it's not "placed in service" for your business until 2024. I'm not a tax professional, but I did something similar with some expensive manufacturing equipment a few years ago. Might be worth asking your accountant about.
Wouldn't that be considered a step transaction by the IRS though? From what I understand they look at the substance of transactions rather than just the form.
That's a valid concern about step transactions. The IRS can indeed look at the substance over form if they believe transactions were structured solely to avoid taxes. The key difference in what I suggested is that there would be a genuine business purpose - securing a specific needed asset that might not be available later. A properly structured lease with market terms that transfers actual usage rights to another party temporarily could potentially work. But you're right that it would need to be a legitimate arrangement and not just paperwork to achieve a tax outcome.
Have you considered just taking the Section 179 in 2023 but carrying forward any unused deduction amount to 2024? If your 2023 income is too low to fully utilize the deduction, the unused portion can be carried forward to future tax years. This is often overlooked but might solve your problem.
This is the correct answer right here - I don't know why no one else mentioned it! Section 179 deductions that exceed your business income can be carried forward indefinitely. So if your 2023 business income is too low to fully use the deduction, you can use the remaining amount in 2024.
Another option nobody's mentioned yet - check your online account at SSA.gov. You can create an account on the Social Security Administration website and view your reported wages, which will show all W-2 income reported under your SSN. Might not have all the withholding details you need, but at least you can verify the income amounts from all your employers.
Will the SSA site show my current year W-2 info though? I thought it only updates annually and wouldn't have my 2024 information available yet for filing in 2025?
You're right to question this - the SSA website typically doesn't show current tax year information in time for filing. It usually updates around July for the previous year's wages. So while it's a good resource for verifying past years or checking if old employers reported your wages correctly, it won't help with your current filing situation. For current year W-2s that you're missing, you'll need to contact either the employer directly or the IRS as others have suggested. The IRS typically has the current year information in their system before it appears in the SSA database.
I once forgot to include a W-2 for about $2,500 and got a letter from the IRS about 8 months later. They adjusted my return automatically, charged me the additional tax plus interest, and reduced my refund for the following year. Wasn't a huge deal but definitely would have been simpler to just include it from the start.
11 One thing to watch out for with multiple W-2s: you might end up owing taxes even if each individual employer withheld the correct amount! This happened to me. Basically, each employer calculates withholding as if they're your only job, so they each withhold at a lower tax bracket rate. But when you combine all your income, you might jump into a higher tax bracket. The software will calculate this, but just be prepared that you might not get the refund you're expecting.
23 Omg this just happened to me! I worked 3 jobs last year and ended up owing $600 when I usually get a refund. I was so confused until the tax preparer explained this exact thing.
11 Yeah, it can be a really unpleasant surprise! One way to avoid this in future years is to fill out a new W-4 form at your current job and check the box for multiple jobs, or even request additional withholding. It's better to get a little less in each paycheck than to get hit with a big tax bill in April. It's one of those weird tax things nobody tells you about until you learn the hard way!
4 If you just have W-2s and no other complicated stuff, the IRS actually has a completely free filing option called Free File Fillable Forms. It's very basic but it works! Saved me from paying for TurboTax last year.
My parents were TurboTax users for 25+ years until my dad retired last year and they finally used an accountant. The difference was shocking! The accountant found almost $4k in missed deductions just on their rental properties alone. The biggest advantage seems to be that accountants know the "gray areas" and exactly how aggressive you can safely be with deductions. They also know the latest tax law changes that might not make it into TurboTax immediately. Nothing against TurboTax, but there's a reason accountants still exist in the age of software! Might be worth at least getting a consultation to see what you're missing.
Wow $4k is a lot! Do you know what specific deductions they were missing? I'm now second-guessing myself about how thorough I've been with my rental property deductions.
The biggest miss was around home office deductions related to managing their rentals. They had never claimed any home office space despite doing all the management work from home. The accountant also found some vehicle expenses they hadn't claimed properly and reclassified some repairs they had made as capital improvements that could be depreciated differently. Another thing was timing of income and expenses between tax years. The accountant showed them how to legally shift some income and expenses between years to minimize their overall tax burden. It's all completely legitimate, just strategic in a way they hadn't considered with TurboTax.
I'm a CPA and I'll tell you something most tax pros won't: for many people with relatively simple situations (even with a rental), TurboTax is absolutely fine. The software has improved tremendously over the years. Where professionals add value: 1) Complex situations (multiple properties, businesses, unusual investments) 2) Audit protection and representation 3) Year-round tax planning, not just filing 4) Identifying industry-specific deductions you might not know about If you've been comfortable with TurboTax for 20 years and understand your situation well, you're probably not missing much. Maybe consider a one-time consultation with a tax pro just to verify, but don't feel pressured to change what's working for you.
Chloe Davis
Regarding your RSU situation - one strategy my wife and I use is to set up a Donor Advised Fund. Since we're also in a high tax bracket with significant RSU income, we donate appreciated shares directly to our DAF instead of cash. This gives us a double tax benefit: a deduction for the full fair market value of the shares and we avoid capital gains tax on the appreciation. You can fund it in high-income years (like when large RSU blocks vest) to bunch your deductions, then distribute the actual charitable gifts over time. This has been more impactful for our tax situation than the backdoor Roth, though we do that too.
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Natasha Orlova
ā¢This sounds promising! How much paperwork/maintenance is involved with a DAF? And can you recommend any specific providers? I've heard of Fidelity and Schwab having these, but not sure if there are advantages to one over another.
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Chloe Davis
ā¢The paperwork is minimal - much easier than setting up a private foundation. It takes about 15-20 minutes to open online, similar to opening a brokerage account. Once it's set up, you just transfer assets in and then make grants to charities whenever you want with a few clicks. I use Fidelity Charitable because that's where my other accounts are, but Schwab and Vanguard are also excellent options. They all have similar fee structures (around 0.6% administrative fee annually plus underlying investment fees). The main difference is minimum initial contribution ($5K for Fidelity, $5K for Schwab, $25K for Vanguard) and minimum grant amounts. I'd go with whoever you already have investment accounts with for simplicity.
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AstroAlpha
Don't forget to check if your spouse's employer offers a mega backdoor Roth option in their 401k plan. This would allow for additional after-tax contributions beyond the standard 401k limit (potentially up to $46,000 more depending on employer plan specifics and other contributions). Those after-tax contributions can then be converted to Roth money. Not all employers offer this, but it's worth checking if they do since your income is high enough to take advantage of it. Would give you much more tax-advantaged space than just the regular backdoor Roth IRA.
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Diego Chavez
ā¢Just a quick note on this - the mega backdoor Roth requires specific plan provisions: 1) allowing after-tax contributions (not just Roth), and 2) either in-plan Roth conversions or non-hardship in-service distributions. Many plans don't have both features, especially the second one. Worth calling the 401k administrator to check though!
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