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Another thing to check is if you received any one-time tax credits or stimulus payments in 2023 that weren't available in 2024. The tax code changes every year, and there were several temporary benefits during and after the pandemic that have since expired. For example, the expanded Child Tax Credit was a thing for a while, and the Earned Income Credit had different rules. Even if your income and withholding were identical, these changing credits could explain the difference in refund amounts.
Thanks for this explanation. I actually did get some kind of pandemic-related credit in 2023 now that I think about it. I'll have to check my old return. Do you know if there's a simple way to compare the two returns side by side to spot the differences?
Most tax software allows you to view or download PDF copies of your previous returns. I'd suggest opening both your 2023 and 2024 returns and comparing the following sections: adjusted gross income, taxable income, total tax, and tax credits. The key differences will usually jump out when you see them side by side. Pay special attention to any lines that have numbers in one year but are blank or zero in the other - those are often the special credits that might have disappeared. If you used online tax software, many have a comparison feature that will highlight year-over-year differences automatically.
check ur filing status too... i had a similar thing happen and realized i accidentally filed as single one year when i shoulda been head of household. made a HUGE difference in my refund! also look at ur witholding on ur w2s from both years... sometimes employers mess this up or apply the wrong tables.
One thing to consider with your taxi service vs. rideshare work: you'll probably need different insurance policies. Regular rideshare insurance won't cover you when you're picking up your own taxi customers outside the apps. I learned this the hard way - had a fender bender while doing a private ride and my insurance denied the claim because I didn't have commercial coverage. Make sure to get proper commercial taxi insurance for when you're running your own service. It's more expensive but necessary. This is actually one reason some drivers choose to form an LLC - for additional liability protection.
Do you report the different insurance costs separately on your taxes? Like rideshare insurance vs commercial taxi insurance? Or is it all just lumped together as "insurance expense"?
You should definitely separate the insurance expenses when reporting on your taxes. The commercial insurance for your taxi service is a direct expense for that business, while your rideshare insurance is specific to your Uber/Lyft work. In QuickBooks, I create separate expense categories for each type of insurance and allocate them accordingly. This gives you a more accurate picture of the profitability of each business activity. Your tax professional (or tax software) will appreciate having these costs properly separated, and it helps ensure you're getting the maximum deduction while also maintaining clean records in case of an audit.
I actually did what you're planning - ran both Uber/Lyft and my own private car service. One major recommendation: get a separate phone number for your taxi business! I use Google Voice (free) but there are other options. Having a business-specific number helps with record-keeping and makes you look more professional. Also makes it easier to track which calls/texts are for which business. Just another way to keep things separate for tax and organization purposes.
That's a great tip about the separate phone number! Hadn't thought about that. Did you find that QuickBooks worked well for tracking both businesses? And did you end up forming an LLC eventually or kept everything as sole proprietorships?
QuickBooks Self-Employed worked pretty well for me. I created separate income categories and would tag each deposit appropriately. I did find that I needed to be really disciplined about entering everything promptly and tagging it correctly. I actually did form an LLC after my second year when my combined income from both businesses hit about $75,000. Before that, the costs of maintaining the LLC and doing the extra paperwork didn't make financial sense. My accountant advised waiting until I hit that income threshold. When I did form the LLC, I put both business activities under the same entity since they were related services. If you do form an LLC, you can still use QuickBooks Self-Employed, but you might want to consider upgrading to QuickBooks Online as it has more features for managing a formal business entity.
Just so you know, paper filing can take 6+ months to process this year. I paper filed last year thinking the delay would be nice since I owed money, but it actually came back to bite me when I needed proof of filing for a mortgage application. The lender wouldn't accept my copy without IRS confirmation that it was received and processing. Just something to consider.
You can request a tax transcript though right? Even if they haven't fully processed it?
Unfortunately, the transcript isn't available until they've processed your return, which is exactly the problem. You can get transcripts from previous years, but not for a return that's still sitting in their paper backlog. My mortgage lender ended up needing additional documentation and it delayed my closing by almost a month. Just wanted to mention it in case you might need proof of filing for anything important this year.
Don't forget to make copies of EVERYTHING before you mail it! I paper filed as a self-employed person last year and the IRS somehow lost my Schedule C. They sent me a letter saying I had unreported income from my 1099 forms. Took months to resolve because I had to mail in copies and wait for them to reprocess. Learn from my mistake!
I'm a real estate investor with 7 properties and want to add another perspective. There are some scenarios where you might consider not taking maximum depreciation, though they're rare: 1. If you're already showing a loss on the property and are limited by passive activity loss limitations (and don't qualify as a real estate professional), additional depreciation might not help you this year anyway 2. If you're in a very low tax bracket now but expect to be in a much higher bracket in future years, the benefit of the deduction might be greater later (though as others mentioned, you're technically required to take it) 3. If you're doing a 1031 exchange and plan to keep exchanging properties until death, the depreciation recapture can be continuously deferred But for most typical investors, maxing out legitimate depreciation deductions and investing the tax savings is absolutely the optimal strategy. Just make sure you're documenting everything properly in case of an audit.
What about component depreciation or cost segregation studies? I've heard those can front-load even more depreciation. Are those worth doing for a small investor with just 1-2 properties, or are they only worthwhile for larger portfolios?
Cost segregation studies absolutely can be worth it even for small investors with 1-2 properties, especially for properties with higher improvement values (like $300K+ in building value). These studies typically identify 20-30% of a building's components that can be depreciated over 5, 7, or 15 years instead of 27.5 years. The sweet spot is usually properties purchased in the last 1-3 years with significant improvement value. The studies themselves typically cost $3,000-$7,000 depending on property size and complexity, but can generate tax savings of $15,000-$50,000 in the first year for many properties. Just make sure you work with a reputable firm that has experience defending their studies in IRS audits if needed.
Quick question - if I sell a rental property at a loss (selling price less than my original purchase price), do I still have to pay the depreciation recapture tax? The market in my area has dropped and I might need to sell my rental for about 25k less than I paid for it.
Yes, you still have to pay depreciation recapture even if you sell at an overall loss. The IRS treats the depreciation recapture as a separate calculation from your capital gain/loss. So you could have a capital loss on the sale but still owe depreciation recapture tax on all the depreciation you claimed (or should have claimed) during ownership. It's one of the nastier surprises in real estate taxation.
Lena MΓΌller
One important thing to consider: will your daughter have enough earned income to benefit from the non-refundable portion of the credit? Remember, while $1,000 of the $2,500 AOTC is refundable, the other $1,500 is non-refundable, meaning she needs tax liability to use it. If she barely worked during college, this strategy might not maximize the benefit.
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LilMama23
β’That's a really good point I hadn't considered fully. My daughter did have an internship last summer and works part-time during school, probably earning around $14,000 for the year. Would that be enough to utilize most of the credit?
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Lena MΓΌller
β’With $14,000 in earnings, your daughter should have enough tax liability to utilize a good portion of the non-refundable part of the AOTC. After the standard deduction (around $13,850 for 2023), she'll have a small taxable income. Even with minimal tax liability, she'll still get the $1,000 refundable portion, plus whatever portion of the $1,500 non-refundable part her tax liability allows. So while she might not get the full $2,500, she'll likely get significantly more than $1,000. Definitely worth calculating both scenarios to see which benefits your family more overall.
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TechNinja
Does anyone know if scholarships affect this? My kid gets a partial scholarship that covers about 60% of tuition.
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Keisha Thompson
β’Yes, scholarships definitely impact the AOTC calculation! Tax-free scholarships that are used for qualified education expenses (tuition and required fees) reduce the amount of expenses eligible for the credit. However, if the scholarship is used for room and board (by including it as taxable income), then it doesn't reduce qualified expenses.
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