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Something that hasn't been mentioned yet - you might want to consider adjusting your W-4s quarterly, especially if you have variable income like bonuses. What I do is: 1. January: Set W-4s based on expected annual income 2. April: After filing taxes, adjust based on Q1 actual earnings 3. July: Mid-year check-in, adjust again 4. October: Final adjustment for year-end This approach has kept me from owing or getting large refunds for the past 3 years. The key is tracking your actual tax liability vs what's being withheld. I use a simple spreadsheet where I record each paycheck's withholding and calculate my estimated tax bracket based on YTD earnings.
Do you have a template for that spreadsheet you could share? I've been trying to figure out a good way to track this stuff. Also, when you adjust quarterly, do you have to submit a new W-4 to your employer each time? Is there a limit to how often you can change it?
I don't have a shareable template, but it's pretty straightforward. I just have columns for pay date, gross pay, federal withholding, state withholding, and running totals for the year. Then I use the tax brackets to estimate what I should owe based on current earnings. There's no limit to how many times you can submit a new W-4. Employers are required to implement your new withholding by the start of the first payroll period ending on or after the 30th day after you submit it. Some companies let you update it through their HR portal which makes it much easier. I just go to my payroll department quarterly with a new form - they're used to it now.
I'm surprised nobody's mentioned this, but could you check if you qualify for the safe harbor rule? If you withhold 100% of last year's tax liability (or 110% if your AGI was over $150,000), you won't face underpayment penalties even if you end up owing at tax time. Given your income levels, you might be better off just making sure you hit that safe harbor threshold through withholding, then saving the rest in a high-yield account until tax time rather than giving the government an interest-free loan.
That's an interesting approach I hadn't considered! So if we owed $9,000 total last year, as long as we withhold at least that amount throughout this year, we wouldn't face penalties even if we actually owe more come tax time? That could definitely help with the cash flow issue while ensuring we're compliant. Would the 110% rule apply to us since our combined income is over $150k?
Yes, that's exactly right. Since your combined income is over $150,000, you'd need to withhold at least 110% of last year's tax liability to qualify for the safe harbor. So if you owed $9,000 last year, you'd need to withhold at least $9,900 this year. The advantage is that you can distribute this more evenly across your jobs instead of having one job withhold a huge amount. You can calculate exactly how much extra to withhold per paycheck to hit that target. Then any additional amount you might owe, you can save up yourself and earn interest on it until tax day instead of giving it to the IRS early.
Back to your original question about Counting Work Pros - I used them last year for my consulting business taxes and had a mixed experience. Their prices were reasonable and they were friendly, but I found they weren't very proactive about finding deductions or explaining things. I had to basically already know what I wanted to ask about, which defeats the purpose of hiring a professional. They weren't bad, just very... basic. Fine if your business finances are straightforward, probably not great if you need more specialized advice for your woodworking business.
That's exactly what I was worried about! Did you end up sticking with them or finding someone else? I definitely need someone who can be proactive about industry-specific deductions.
I switched to a local CPA who specializes in small businesses in creative fields. The difference was night and day. She immediately identified several deductions I'd missed, restructured how I was tracking certain expenses, and even suggested a different business entity structure that's saving me about $3,200 in taxes this year. She charges about 30% more than Counting Work Pros did, but has already saved me way more than that difference. For specialized businesses like yours (and mine), having someone who understands the specific challenges and opportunities really matters.
One thing that nobody has mentioned yet - check if the accountant/service has experience dealing with IRS audits. As someone who got audited on my business taxes three years ago, trust me, you want someone who won't panic if that happens. My first accountant vanished when the audit letter came, which left me scrambling. My current tax pro has handled dozens of audits and actually specializes in audit defense. Makes me feel much more secure.
Has anyone had luck with the new W-4 form for setting withholding? I've tried twice to adjust mine to break even but still ended up with a $1,800 refund this year. The calculator on the IRS website seems off.
I had the same issue until I realized the new W-4 doesn't use allowances anymore. You have to put actual dollar amounts for additional income and deductions. I put $200 extra on Line 4(c) for additional withholding and finally got close to breaking even last year.
unpopular opinion: i LOVE getting a big refund and don't care that it's "inefficient" lol. that $3k hitting my account in february is my yearly reset button. paid off my credit cards, fixed my car, and still had enough for a weekend trip. no way i would've saved that much during the year even if i tried. for me personally the psychology of it works and after trying both ways i'm sticking with big refunds forever sorry not sorry financial advisors š
Same here! My $2,700 refund this year went straight to a down payment fund that I've been trying to build for 2 years. Something about that lump sum makes it easier to put toward a big goal instead of watching it disappear $225 a month.
I guess that makes sense if you know you won't save it otherwise. I just hate the feeling that I'm giving away my money for months when it could be working for me. Different strokes I guess!
Don't forget to think about state-level estate taxes too! I learned this the hard way. My family's trust was all set up to handle federal estate taxes but completely ignored the state-level taxes in our state which has a much lower exemption. Cost us over $150k in taxes we could have avoided with better planning. Make sure your uncle's attorney is considering both federal AND state taxes in whatever trust strategy they use.
I hadn't even thought about state taxes - we're in Washington state. Do different states have their own separate estate tax systems? Is there a way to look this up?
Yes, Washington state definitely has its own estate tax, and the exemption amount is much lower than the federal one - around $2.2 million last I checked. This is exactly the kind of situation where your uncle needs good planning! Washington's estate tax rates are progressive, ranging from about 10% to 20% for larger estates. There are some planning strategies that work specifically for Washington state taxes. You can find the basics on the Washington Department of Revenue website, but this is absolutely something your uncle's estate attorney should be addressing specifically.
Quick question for anyone who knows - if I'm named as a trustee on someone's trust, does that create any tax implications for me personally? Like do I have to report anything on my own taxes? I'm in a similar situation as the original poster.
Being a trustee doesn't generally create personal tax implications for you. The trust is its own tax entity with its own tax ID number. As trustee, you'll be responsible for ensuring the trust tax returns are filed, but you don't report trust income on your personal return unless you're also a beneficiary receiving distributions.
Daniel White
Has anyone tried those tax clinics that universities sometimes run with accounting students? I've heard they're free or low-cost and the students are supervised by professionals. Might be a good middle ground?
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Daniel White
ā¢That's great to hear! I was worried they might miss things since they're students, but it makes sense they'd be extra careful if they're being evaluated. I'll definitely look into booking early. Did you need to bring anything special or prepare differently compared to going to a regular tax service?
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Nolan Carter
ā¢You'll want to bring everything organized really well - all your income documents, receipts for deductions, last year's return if you have it, and especially documentation for things like childcare expenses since those need specific information. The session I had took longer than a regular tax appointment (about 2 hours) because they were being thorough and explaining things as they went. It was actually really educational! Just make sure to book your appointment early - I called in January for a mid-February slot and they were already filling up fast.
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Natalia Stone
Whatever you do, don't just go with the first place you find. I made that mistake last year and the "tax professional" missed my student loan interest deduction completely, which cost me about $300 in refund money. I'd recommend at least getting quotes from 2-3 different places and specifically ask them what deductions they think you might qualify for based on your situation. The good preparers will be able to give you some initial ideas even before you officially hire them.
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Tasia Synder
ā¢Exactly this! And don't be afraid to ask specifically about their experience with single parent returns, homeowner deductions, and healthcare costs. A good tax preparer should immediately mention checking for Earned Income Credit, Child Tax Credit, Child and Dependent Care Credit, and possible education credits for your kids depending on any activities they're in.
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