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You might want to check your state tax withholding too. When my federal withholding got adjusted between multiple jobs, my state withholding also changed because many state systems piggyback on the federal withholding information. This might be especially important if you live in a high-tax state like CA, NY, or NJ.
Good point! I just checked and you're right - my state withholding also changed on my part-time job. I'm in Illinois, and it looks like they increased the state withholding percentage at the same time as the federal. Any specific suggestions for handling state withholding with multiple jobs? Is it similar to federal or do they have different rules?
State withholding generally follows similar principles to federal, but each state has its own specific forms and calculation methods. For Illinois, they use your federal allowances as a starting point for state withholding calculations. I'd recommend checking the Illinois Department of Revenue website for their withholding calculator or Form IL-W-4. Since both jobs are now withholding correctly, you might just need to make sure your additional withholding amount on your full-time job's W-4 is adjusted downward to account for the new withholding happening at your part-time job. The goal is to get your total withholding across both jobs to match your expected tax liability.
Has anyone else noticed that the FITWH on multiple jobs seems to be calculated weirdly this year? Like my second job is withholding at a much higher rate per dollar than my main job even though they both have the same W-4 settings? Is that normal?
That's actually by design! The 2020 W-4 redesign and IRS withholding tables are set up so that if you check the multiple jobs box, your second/lower paying job often has a higher withholding percentage. This is because the system assumes your first job already uses up your standard deduction and lower tax brackets, so additional income is taxed at higher marginal rates.
Have you checked if you received any one-time tax credits last year that weren't available this year? For example, there were some recovery rebate credits and expanded child tax credits in recent years that have since expired or changed. Also look at your adjusted gross income between the two years. Even a small increase could push you into a different tax bracket or phase out certain credits you qualified for previously.
I don't think I received any special credits last year - I don't have kids and didn't qualify for most of those pandemic-related things. My income did go up slightly (about $1,500 more than last year), but I didn't think that would make such a big difference. One thing I'm wondering about - I did start contributing to my company's 401k this past September. Would that affect my refund in any way? I'm putting in about 4% of my paycheck.
Your 401k contributions actually should have helped your tax situation, not hurt it. Those contributions reduce your taxable income, which typically means less tax overall. Since you started in September, you might not see the full annual benefit, but it definitely wouldn't cause your refund to decrease. Given all the information you've shared, it really does sound like the withholding change is the primary factor. The good news is that you didn't actually lose money - you just received it gradually throughout the year instead of in one lump sum. For next year, definitely submit a new W-4 requesting additional withholding if you prefer the larger refund approach to saving.
A similar thing happened to me and it was driving me crazy until I realized my previous employer had been over-withholding my taxes (taking too much out of each check). When I switched jobs, my new employer was withholding the correct amount, which was less per paycheck. Result: bigger paychecks through the year but a smaller refund. Check if anything changed with your W-4 or withholding status!
One thing I learned creating our company WISP that might help - start by listing all the types of sensitive information your brother's construction business actually collects and stores. For example: - Client contact info and property details - Employee SSNs and banking info for payroll - Vendor account information - Financial records and tax documents - Any building plans or proprietary designs Then for each type, document HOW that information is protected. This approach makes it much more practical and focused than trying to follow a generic template.
This is exactly the kind of practical advice I needed! I've been overthinking the whole process. So if I understand correctly, I should focus on the actual sensitive data they handle rather than trying to address every possible scenario in those massive templates? Should I also describe their current password policies for their systems?
Yes, that's exactly right! Focus on the actual data they handle, not theoretical scenarios that don't apply to them. A practical WISP is much more useful than a comprehensive one that includes irrelevant sections. Definitely include current password policies for all systems that store sensitive information. Document how often passwords must be changed, minimum requirements (length, special characters, etc.), and who has access to what systems. Also include any multi-factor authentication if they use it, procedures for removing access when employees leave, and any training provided about data security. These practical elements show they're actually implementing security measures, not just documenting theoretical policies.
can someone explain what WISP even stands for? my sister in law mentioned needing one for her therapy practice but i dont get what it is or why its needed...is it just another gov't thing to make small business life harder?
WISP stands for Written Information Security Program. It's basically a document that outlines how a business protects sensitive information like customer data, employee records, and financial information.
thanks! so its about data protection? is this something all small businesses need now or just certain types?
Dont forget to check if your parents are claiming you as a dependent! If they are (and they probably should if they provide more than half your support), it affects how you file. You can still file and get your refund, but you'll need to indicate that someone else can claim you as a dependent.
Also consider that you might need to file state taxes even if you don't need to file federal! Each state has different rules and thresholds. Some states will give you a refund of state income taxes even if you're below the federal filing requirement.
I hadn't even thought about state taxes! I'm in Texas - do you know if they have state income tax here?
You're actually in luck! Texas is one of the few states with no state income tax, so you don't need to worry about filing a state return. Just the federal one. That makes things much simpler for you! If you ever move to another state though, definitely check their specific requirements. States like California, New York, and many others have their own income taxes with different thresholds and rules.
Andre Moreau
Have you looked into whether your dad qualifies for an "identity theft" exception? If your sister used the card without proper authorization, it could potentially be reported as not your dad's debt. Though from your description, it sounds like he gave permission, so probably doesn't apply here. Another thing to consider: disability benefits are handled differently depending on whether it's SSDI or SSI. If it's SSI (Supplemental Security Income), the canceled debt could potentially affect benefits since that's needs-based. If it's SSDI (Social Security Disability Insurance), it normally wouldn't affect benefits since they're not income-based.
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Luca Russo
ā¢Thanks for the suggestion. It wasn't identity theft - my dad knowingly let my sister use the card to help her out, so we can't go that route. He's on SSDI, not SSI, so that's somewhat reassuring. I'm still concerned about how this might impact his tax situation though, especially since he's normally not required to file due to low income. Does the 1099-C automatically mean he must file now, even with SSDI being his only income source?
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Andre Moreau
ā¢If your dad is only receiving SSDI and is single, he generally wouldn't need to file a tax return unless his total income exceeds the standard deduction (which is $14,600 for 2024 if he's over 65). The 1099-C amount would count toward that threshold. So if his SSDI benefits plus the $8,200 canceled debt amount is less than the standard deduction, he still wouldn't be required to file. However, if it puts him over that threshold, then yes, he would need to file - but should definitely look into the insolvency exception in that case.
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Zoe Stavros
Has your father looked into filing Form 8275 (Disclosure Statement) along with the Form 982 for the insolvency exclusion? It allows you to fully explain unusual tax situations to avoid triggering automatic audits. I used it last year when dealing with a complicated 1099-C situation where I needed to explain why the canceled debt shouldn't be treated as income.
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Jamal Harris
ā¢Form 8275 seems risky to me. I've heard it's like waving a red flag at the IRS saying "look at me!" Wouldn't it be better to just file Form 982 and only provide additional explanation if they actually question it?
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