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Don't forget about Form 4852! If your employer refuses to issue you a corrected W-2 (which they probably will), you can file Form 4852 as a substitute W-2. This is important because once you have an SS8 determination, you should be filing as an employee, not a contractor. Also, keep in mind this affects your state taxes too. Most states will follow the federal determination, so you'll need to file your state taxes as an employee rather than as self-employed.

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Lauren Zeb

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Thanks for mentioning Form 4852 - I hadn't heard of that one! Do you know if I need to wait for the company to refuse to give me a W2 first, or can I just file the 4852 right away? I doubt they're going to be cooperative since they're already ignoring my messages after I told them about the SS8 determination.

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You don't necessarily need to wait for them to refuse. If they're already ignoring your communications, that's basically a de facto refusal. You can proceed with Form 4852 right away. On the form, you'll need to explain how you determined the wage amount - just reference your 1099 forms, payment records, and the SS8 determination. The key is documenting that you made a reasonable effort to get the correct W-2 from them. Even a quick email requesting it (with no response) is enough to show you tried.

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One thing nobody mentioned yet - if your company was taking ANY tax withholding from your checks even while classifying you as 1099, make sure that gets properly credited to you! Sometimes companies do weird hybrid arrangements where they withhold some taxes but still issue a 1099.

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This is really important! My old company did this - they withheld some taxes but still gave me a 1099. When I got my SS8 determination, I discovered they had withheld taxes but never submitted them to the IRS! It created a huge mess.

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Tasia Synder

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Make sure you actually have a legitimate business and not just a hobby! I tried deducting expenses for my "photography business" a few years ago, but the IRS rejected most of them because I hadn't shown a profit in 3 years. They reclassified it as a hobby, which meant I couldn't deduct any expenses against other income. For your situation, I think the key is whether this unpaid gig is part of building a legitimate business where you DO make money other times, or if it's just a one-off thing you're doing mostly for fun.

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Thanks for bringing this up! To clarify, I do have paying gigs throughout the year in the same line of work. This festival opportunity is unusual in that it's "payment in kind" rather than cash, but it's definitely part of my overall business strategy to build contacts and get higher-paying work. I've been profitable overall for the past year, just not with this specific job.

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Tasia Synder

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That's good news! The fact that you have other paying gigs in the same line of work and are profitable overall will really help your case if you're ever questioned. Just keep good records showing how this unpaid gig connects to your overall business plan. Maybe even document any contacts you make or future opportunities that come from this festival work to show the business purpose. The IRS is most concerned with people trying to write off hobby expenses or vacations as "business" - since you have a legitimate business that makes money at other times, you should be on solid ground.

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Don't forget to track your mileage if you're driving your own car anywhere during this trip! Current rate is 65.5 cents per mile for 2023, which adds up fast. Also, keep receipts for EVERYTHING, even small purchases. Take pictures of them immediately so you don't lose them.

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The IRS mileage rate for 2023 is actually 67.5 cents per mile for the second half of the year (July 1-Dec 31). It was 65.5 cents for the first half. Just wanted to clarify so OP doesn't miss out on deductions!

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Arjun Patel

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One thing nobody mentioned yet - you should seriously consider making quarterly estimated tax payments for your 1099 income. I learned this the hard way and got hit with underpayment penalties. The IRS expects you to pay as you earn throughout the year, not just at tax time. You can do this through the EFTPS system online.

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Jade Lopez

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How do you figure out how much to pay each quarter? Is there a calculator or something?

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Arjun Patel

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You can use the worksheet in Form 1040-ES to estimate your payments. Basically, you'll need to estimate your total tax liability for the year and divide by 4. If your income is fairly consistent each quarter, equal payments work fine. If it varies a lot, you can use the "annualized income" method (Form 2210) to vary your payments.

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Tony Brooks

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Your brother is giving you terrible advice! I'm not an accountant but I've been filing Schedule C for my 1099 work for years without an LLC. The LLC is about liability protection, not tax treatment. You file Schedule C as a sole proprietor and deduct all legitimate business expenses. That should include a portion of your home internet, any software subscriptions for work, equipment, home office space, professional development, etc.

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Exactly! The LLC question is completely separate from tax deductions. An LLC can elect different tax treatments, but having/not having one doesn't affect your ability to deduct business expenses.

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Don't forget about your state taxes too! Depending on what state you live in, homeownership deductions can be different at the state level than federal. Some states have additional homestead exemptions or credits that aren't on your federal return. Check your state's tax department website.

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I hadn't even thought about state tax implications! I'm in Michigan - do you know if there are specific homeowner benefits here? Also, does using the standard deduction on federal mean I have to do the same on state?

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Michigan has a Homestead Property Tax Credit that's separate from your federal return. You may qualify for this even if you take the standard deduction on your federal return. It's based on your property taxes in relation to your household income, and can provide significant savings. No, you don't have to use the same deduction method for state as federal. You can itemize on one and take the standard deduction on the other - choose whatever gives you the best outcome for each return separately. The Michigan form MI-1040CR is what you'll need for the homestead credit.

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Somethin to consider - if u bought your house in 2023 but are filing 2024 taxes, u can only claim interest/taxes for the time u actually owned the house that year! Made that mistake my first time & had to file an amendment. Check the dates on that 1098 form!!!

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Justin Trejo

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Also check if you paid points to get your mortgage! Those are usually deductible in the year you pay them. They should be on your closing documents.

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Anna Xian

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Have you considered using a tax professional instead of DIY software? With that many transactions, it might be worth paying a CPA who has professional-grade software that can handle large volumes. I'm a day trader with 500+ transactions yearly and finally gave up on consumer tax programs. My CPA uses UltraTax which has no issues with large transaction volumes. It costs me about $450 but saves me countless hours and prevents errors.

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Axel Bourke

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I've thought about going to a professional, but I was hoping to avoid the expense since my return is otherwise pretty straightforward. Do you think the cost is justified just for handling the large number of forms? How did you find a CPA that specializes in high-volume trading?

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Anna Xian

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In my experience, it's absolutely worth it when you have hundreds of transactions. Besides handling the volume, a good CPA can often find deductions or strategies you might miss. I found mine by asking in a traders' forum for recommendations in my area. The real value comes when you have an unusual situation like this. Consumer software is designed for typical tax situations, not edge cases like hundreds of transactions. Most CPAs charge based on complexity, so while the trading forms increase the cost, the rest of your straightforward return helps keep it reasonable.

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Has anyone tried importing a CSV file into tax software instead of using the direct import feature? I had a similar issue last year with about 200 transactions and ended up using TaxAct's desktop version with a spreadsheet import that worked surprisingly well.

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Rajan Walker

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I did this with H&R Block Premium last year. You need to format your spreadsheet exactly to their template, but once that's done, it imports everything cleanly. I had around 175 transactions and it worked without crashing. Way better than manual entry.

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