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My CPA did a cost seg on my 4-plex from 2019 last year. The study shifted about $127,000 from 27.5 year property to 5/7/15 year property. With bonus depreciation we got a huge write-off. No audit issues at all. Make sure your study is done by an engineering firm that specializes in cost segregation - we used one that had actual engineers create the report and they were super detailed with their component breakdown. The real value came from having my wife qualify as a real estate professional - we were able to offset a ton of W2 income with the accelerated depreciation. Definitely worth the cost of the study.

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Justin Trejo

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What kind of documentation did the engineering firm require? My concern is that since it's been a few years since purchase, I might not have all the original construction details or receipts they might need.

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They actually needed less than I expected. They used the purchase documents, property tax records, and some photos I already had. They also did a virtual walkthrough where I showed them around the property using my phone. For components they couldn't see (like wiring, plumbing systems), they based estimates on industry standards for the building type and age. What really mattered was having a qualified firm that understood both the engineering aspects AND the tax rules. They documented their methodology carefully which is what protects you in case of an audit. The IRS doesn't usually challenge properly performed studies, even after-the-fact ones.

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Juan Moreno

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Guys, be careful with this. I did a cost seg in 2021 for a property I bought in 2018 and got audited. The IRS disallowed a bunch of the reclassifications because our study didn't have enough documentation. Make sure whoever does ur study has a good track record defending their work in audits!!!

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Amy Fleming

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That's concerning. Was it a reputable firm that did your study? What specific documentation did the IRS say was lacking? I'm considering doing this too but worried about the audit risk.

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One thing nobody's mentioned - your kids need to have tax liability to get the full benefit of AOC. Only $1,000 of the $2,500 credit is refundable. So if they don't have jobs with income that generates at least $1,500 in tax liability, they won't get the full benefit of the credit. Also remember that if you don't claim them as dependents, you lose other potential benefits like the dependent care credit (if applicable) and the possibility of head of household filing status if you're single.

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Luca Conti

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Thanks for bringing this up! My kids actually both work part-time while in school. One made about $14,000 last year and the other around $12,500. Would that be enough income to take full advantage of the non-refundable portion of the AOC?

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With those income levels, they should have enough tax liability to take advantage of most if not all of the non-refundable portion of the AOC. At approximately $12,500-$14,000 of income, they would have roughly $1,250-$1,400 in federal tax liability (depending on other factors), which means they could utilize most of the non-refundable portion. They'd definitely get the full $1,000 refundable portion, plus be able to offset most of their tax liability with the remaining credit. This makes your strategy even more viable since they have enough income to benefit substantially from claiming the credit themselves.

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Don't forget to have a written agreement with your kids if they're going to claim their own education credits! Last year I did this with my daughter, and she agreed to give me the tax savings since I paid her tuition. Without that agreement, she might have kept the refund even though I paid the qualifying expenses. Also make sure they understand they need to keep all the tuition statements and expense records for their tax files, not yours, since they're claiming the credits.

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Is that agreement really legally required? I never thought about needing documentation between family members.

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Emma Garcia

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I'm a bit late to this discussion but wanted to add something important that others haven't mentioned. The new bill also increases the refundable portion of the CTC, not just the lookback provision. Starting in 2024 (but NOT retroactive to 2023), the refundable portion will be calculated per child rather than per family. So for 2023 returns, a family with no income still won't benefit from the CTC. But in 2024, a parent could potentially use their 2023 income to qualify if they had income then but not in 2024. And the per-child calculation means families with multiple children will see a bigger benefit. The bill also gradually increases the maximum refundable amount from $1,600 per child to $1,800 in 2025, $1,900 in 2026, and $2,000 by 2027. Just wanted to add this since it affects the long-term planning aspect for families.

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Ava Kim

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Do you know if the age requirements are changing too? Currently it's under 17, but I've heard rumors they might extend it for older dependents like they did during COVID.

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Emma Garcia

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The age requirement is staying the same under the current proposal - children must be under 17 at the end of the tax year to qualify for the Child Tax Credit. The temporary expansion during COVID that included 17-year-olds is not part of this new legislation. What's staying consistent is the income phase-out thresholds - $200,000 for single filers and $400,000 for married filing jointly. The credit begins to reduce by $50 for each $1,000 of income above these thresholds.

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Has anyone actually read the bill text? I'm looking at it now and it specifically states that the lookback provision (using prior year income) applies "beginning with taxable years beginning after December 31, 2023." That means it starts with 2024 tax year. There's no language in the bill making anything retroactive to 2023. So if you're filing 2023 taxes in the next few months, the old rules still apply - need earned income to get the refundable portion. I think the confusion comes because sometimes we mix up tax years with filing years. The 2023 tax year (which we file in early 2024) is different from the 2024 tax year (which we'll file in early 2025).

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Carmen Diaz

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Thank you! This is exactly what I was trying to figure out. So my ex who didn't work in 2023 won't be able to claim the CTC for the kids for the 2023 tax year, even with these new changes coming? But potentially for 2024 taxes she could use her 2023 income (if she had any) to qualify?

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That's exactly right. For the 2023 tax return that your ex will file in the coming months, she would need earned income in 2023 to benefit from the refundable portion of the CTC. The new changes won't help for this coming tax season. For the 2024 tax year (which will be filed in early 2025), the new rules would take effect. At that point, she could potentially use either her 2023 income OR her 2024 income to qualify for the CTC, whichever is more beneficial. But for the return she's about to file for 2023, the current rules still apply.

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Zoe Gonzalez

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You should check if you qualify for VITA (Volunteer Income Tax Assistance). They offer free tax prep services if you make under about $60k. They can help with prior year returns too including 2022 W2's. Just google "VITA tax help" plus your city name to find locations. They're legit IRS-certified volunteers.

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Ashley Adams

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Do these VITA places have actual tax pros or just volunteers? I'm nervous about having someone who doesn't really know what they're doing handle my taxes, even if it's free.

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Zoe Gonzalez

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They're volunteers but they're all IRS-certified and have to pass tax law training. Many are accounting students, retired tax professionals, or people who work in finance who volunteer their time. Each return also gets quality reviewed by a second volunteer before it's submitted. They're especially good with straightforward tax situations like W2 income. I volunteered with them for two years and the training was really comprehensive. For complex situations involving businesses or complicated investments, you might want a paid professional, but for basic W2 filing, they're absolutely qualified.

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has anyone used turbotax for 2022 W2s? their commercials say "free" but I've heard they charge for everything. any free alternatives that actually stay free?

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Aaron Lee

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TurboTax is notorious for advertising "free" but then charging for almost everything. I've used FreeTaxUSA for the past 4 years including for a late 2022 W2 filing and it's actually free for federal (like $15 for state). Way more honest than TurboTax.

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TurboTax is the WORST for this! They've been sued multiple times for their deceptive "free" marketing. They have a truly free version that's hard to find on their site, and they'll try to upsell you at every step. For basic W2 filing, use FreeTaxUSA or Cash App Taxes instead - they're actually free unlike TurboTax.

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Yara Khalil

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Former tax preparer here - just to add another clarification about the April 15 deadline: if you owe money and can't pay the full amount, still file on time! The penalty for filing late (5% per month up to 25% of unpaid taxes) is much worse than the penalty for paying late (0.5% per month up to 25%). And if you're getting a refund, there's actually no penalty for filing late, though you generally only have 3 years to claim your refund. But why wait for money that's yours?

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Keisha Brown

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What about if I know I need to file an extension? Does that need to be done by 11:59pm on the 15th too? And is there any downside to filing an extension?

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Yara Khalil

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Yes, the extension request (Form 4868) must also be filed by 11:59pm local time on April 15th. Electronic is best because you get immediate confirmation. The main downside to an extension is that it only extends the time to file your paperwork, not to pay what you owe. You still need to estimate what you might owe and pay that by April 15th to avoid penalties and interest. If you're getting a refund, there's no downside at all to filing an extension. And having an extension actually slightly reduces your audit risk according to some statistics, though that shouldn't be your main reason for filing one.

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Another thing that confuses people - if you e-file, you get confirmation right away, but if you mail your return, the POSTMARK date is what counts, not when the IRS receives it. So if you're mailing on April 15th, make sure to go to the post office and get it postmarked that day!

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Amina Toure

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This saved me last year! My local post office has a self-service kiosk that's open until midnight, and the postmark from that counts as official. Double check your local post office hours if you're cutting it close.

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Great tip about the self-service kiosk! Not all post offices have them though, so definitely check ahead of time. And remember that private delivery services like FedEx or UPS can also be used, but the IRS only accepts certain types of delivery services as "timely filed" - there's an official list on the IRS website. One more thing: if you're mailing a payment with your return or extension, use Form 1040-V for the payment. Makes processing faster and ensures your payment gets properly credited to your account.

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