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OP, make sure you've been filing Form 8606 for ALL years you made non-deductible traditional IRA contributions, not just for the conversion year! If you haven't been tracking your basis with Form 8606 each year, you might end up paying tax twice on your contributions. The most important thing with backdoor Roth is establishing that your traditional IRA contributions were non-deductible. Without Form 8606 history, the IRS has no way of knowing you already paid tax on that money.
Is it possible to file previous years' Form 8606 if you missed them? I've been making non-deductible contributions for 3 years but only learned about Form 8606 recently.
Yes, you can and absolutely should file Form 8606 for previous years if you missed them. You'll need to submit them separately as standalone forms - you don't need to amend your entire return. There's no penalty for filing Form 8606 late if you're only establishing basis (though there would be if you were reporting distributions). File a separate Form 8606 for each tax year, make sure to use the form version for that specific tax year, and write "Filed Pursuant to Section 301.9100-2" at the top to indicate you're filing it late under the automatic extension provisions.
Does anyone know if this same TurboTax issue happens with partial Roth conversions? I converted $4000 of my $7000 traditional IRA to Roth in 2022, and I'm worried TurboTax will miss it too.
Partial conversions are even trickier in TurboTax. Search for "1099-R" like others suggested, but when it asks what you did with the money, choose "Converted part to a Roth IRA." Then you'll need to specify how much went to the Roth vs how much stayed in the traditional IRA. The pro-rata rule will likely apply in your case since you kept some in the traditional IRA.
22 One thing nobody's mentioning - consider running at least quarterly payroll instead of just one annual payroll at year-end. The IRS sometimes looks skeptically at S corps that only run payroll once a year since it doesn't resemble a typical employer-employee relationship. My accountant advised me to run quarterly to look more legitimate.
14 Is that really necessary? I've been doing one annual payroll for my single-member S corp for 3 years with no issues. Seems like extra work and payroll fees for no reason.
22 While not technically required, it can definitely help establish the legitimacy of your employment relationship with the S corp. The IRS often raises eyebrows at once-a-year payments because regular employees typically don't get paid just once annually. Multiple payroll runs throughout the year can strengthen your position that you're treating the employment relationship properly. Plus, it helps with cash flow planning and can make your estimated tax payments more manageable rather than dealing with one large tax hit. My accountant specifically mentioned this was one of the factors that can help avoid unwanted IRS attention.
4 Has anyone run into issues with state payroll taxes and reporting deadlines being different from federal? I made this mistake last year and ended up with penalties because my state required payroll tax deposits more frequently than I realized.
Have you checked the instructions for your specific state's tax return? Sometimes the state ID number requirement varies by state. For example: - In New York, it's your SSN - In California, you need a CA Corporation number or FEIN - In Texas, they use a Texas Taxpayer Number - In Florida, there's no state income tax so you won't need this What state are you in? That would help narrow it down.
I'm in Pennsylvania. I finally found the answer after calling the state department of revenue directly. For PA residents, you use your SSN for most cases with 1099-B forms. However, if you're filing as a business entity that has investments, you would use your state business tax ID. The confusion came from my tax software which wasn't state-specific in its wording. It asked for a "state ID number" generically when what it really meant was my SSN for my particular situation.
Good detective work! Yes, Pennsylvania is one of the states that primarily uses your SSN for individual 1099-B reporting. The tax software really should make that clearer - they cause so much unnecessary stress with their vague terminology. For anyone else reading this with the same issue, always check your state's specific department of revenue website or call them directly if you're unsure. The requirements can change from state to state and sometimes even year to year as tax laws are updated.
I've been a tax preparer for 8 years and see this confusion constantly. For 1099-B forms, here's what you need to know about state ID numbers: 1) For INDIVIDUALS in most states: Use your Social Security Number 2) For BUSINESSES: Use your state tax ID or FEIN 3) For TRUSTS: Usually use the trust's EIN The problem is that tax software often asks generic questions without specifying which type of ID they're looking for. Always look for state-specific instructions within the software, usually there's a help button or a "learn more" link that explains what they're actually asking for.
This is helpful but i still don't understand why my 1099-B from Fidelity doesn't have my state ID printed anywhere on it?? Shouldn't they include that information since they're the ones issuing the form??
Your 1099-B from Fidelity doesn't have your state ID printed on it because federal 1099-B forms are standardized by the IRS and don't include state-specific information. Brokerages like Fidelity are required to report to the federal government, but state reporting requirements vary widely. When you're entering this information into tax software, the software is trying to match your 1099-B to your state tax return, which is why it asks for a state ID. You provide this information yourself - usually your SSN for individual filers - rather than it coming from Fidelity. This connects your investment income reported on the federal level to your state tax obligation.
My company does payroll for several small businesses, and we actually prefer reissuing W2s rather than W2-Cs when we catch errors early. The W2-C form is confusing for most employees because it shows the delta between incorrect and correct amounts rather than the final numbers. When we reissue a W2, we mark the original as "VOID" in our system so the SSA knows to use the latest submission. As long as your employer properly submitted the corrected W2 to the SSA (which they should have), you're good to just use the new one.
Is there any way for an employee to confirm that their employer actually submitted the corrected W2 to the SSA? I'm worried my employer might have given me a corrected one but forgotten to update it with the government.
Unfortunately, there's no direct way for employees to verify SSA submissions in real-time. However, you can indirectly check by creating an account on the SSA website (my.ssa.gov) and viewing your reported wages after tax season. This won't help immediately for filing, though. Your best approach is to contact your payroll or HR department directly and ask them to confirm they've submitted the corrected W2 to the SSA. Most payroll systems automatically handle this when generating a replacement W2, but it's fair to ask for confirmation. If they're using proper payroll software, they should be able to tell you the submission date of the corrected information.
Friendly reminder to everyone - make sure you keep BOTH W2s (the original incorrect one and the reissued correct one) with your tax records for at least 3 years. Even though you'll only file using the corrected one, if you ever get audited, having both documents helps explain any discrepancies the IRS might question.
Good advice. I keep all my tax docs for 7 years just to be safe. Electronic copies are fine too - I scan everything and keep it in a secure folder.
Mateo Sanchez
The W4 changed dramatically in 2020, and the IRS has been tweaking withholding tables ever since. Your daughter probably filled out the old version years ago, and the employer has just been using that information. The new W4 doesn't use allowances anymore. I'd suggest she fill out a new W4 and on line 4(c) add additional withholding. For her income level, if she wants a small refund instead of owing, adding about $25 per paycheck in additional withholding should cover it if she gets paid biweekly.
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Aisha Mahmood
ā¢How do you calculate the right amount for line 4(c)? Is there a formula or something? Also, is there any risk to withholding too much?
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Mateo Sanchez
ā¢A quick way to estimate is to take the amount she owed this year ($320) and divide by the number of paychecks she receives annually. If she's paid biweekly, that's 26 paychecks, so about $12.50 per check. I suggested $25 to give a buffer for a small refund rather than owing. There's no real risk to withholding too much except that you're giving the government an interest-free loan of your money until you file your taxes and get a refund. Some people actually prefer larger refunds as a form of forced savings, even though financially it's not optimal.
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Ethan Moore
Did her job change at all? Sometimes they classify workers differently from year to year which affects withholding. My daughter had this happen when she went from being classified as a regular employee one year to some kind of "seasonal employee" the next, even though she worked year-round.
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Yuki Kobayashi
ā¢This happened to me too! My employer reclassified me as a different type of employee with the same hours and slightly higher pay, but my withholding dropped by almost 40%. Ended up owing $900 and was NOT happy about it.
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