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Ava Martinez

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Has anyone used appeals after getting a Notice of Deficiency? I know typically you'd go through appeals before getting a NOD, but in my case, the revenue agent went straight to issuing the notice without giving us a chance at appeals.

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Miguel Ramos

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Unfortunately, once the Notice of Deficiency is issued, the normal appeals process is no longer available before Tax Court. Your options now are either petition Tax Court (which will likely lead to Appeals before trial) or pay the tax and file a claim for refund.

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Noah Torres

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I've been through a similar situation and wanted to share what worked for us. We received a Notice of Deficiency for $31,000 in disallowed business expenses, and honestly, the 90-day deadline felt overwhelming at first. Here's what I learned: Don't wait to file the Tax Court petition if you believe the IRS is wrong. Filing the petition doesn't mean you're committing to a full trial - it preserves your rights and stops the assessment clock. Many cases get resolved through settlement conferences with IRS Appeals once you're in the Tax Court system. The key is having your documentation organized and a clear argument for why each expense should be allowed. We ended up settling for about 20% of the original assessment without ever going to trial. The IRS Appeals officer was much more reasonable to work with than the original examining agent. Also, consider getting professional help if the amount is significant. The cost of a tax attorney or CPA experienced with Tax Court cases is often worth it when you're dealing with a $24,000+ assessment. They know exactly how to present your case and what Appeals officers are looking for in settlement discussions. Time is your enemy here - use it wisely to build the strongest case possible rather than hoping for a miracle solution that avoids Tax Court entirely.

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Has anybody had the situation where supplemental property tax bills arrive YEARS after you bought the property? We just got one from 2022 last month and it made me miss the SALT deduction for that year since I already filed! So annoying.

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You can file an amended return (Form 1040-X) for 2022 to claim that deduction. You generally have up to 3 years from the date you filed the original return to file an amendment. Might be worth it if the additional deduction would save you money!

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Great discussion here! One thing I'd add is that if you're close to the $10,000 SALT cap, it might be worth calculating whether bunching your property tax payments could be beneficial. For example, if you're going to be slightly over the cap in both 2023 and 2024, you might consider paying both installments in one year to maximize the deduction in that year, then potentially having more room for other SALT deductions (like state income taxes) in the other year. Also, make sure you're keeping good records of all payment dates and amounts. The IRS can be particular about documentation for property tax deductions, especially with supplemental bills that might not follow the typical payment schedule. I always recommend keeping copies of the cancelled checks or bank statements showing the exact payment dates, since that's what determines which tax year you can claim the deduction.

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LongPeri

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Don't forget that if your income is under $60,000, you can get your taxes done for FREE through the VITA program (Volunteer Income Tax Assistance). They're specifically trained to help with credits like the EITC and Child Tax Credit. Just Google "VITA site near me" to find locations. This will save you from paying for tax software and they'll make sure you get every credit you qualify for. I've used them for years and they're amazing volunteers who really know their stuff about tax credits for families!

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Oscar O'Neil

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Are these VITA volunteers actually qualified or are they just random people? I'm always nervous about trusting tax advice from free services. Do they guarantee their work in case of audits?

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LongPeri

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The VITA volunteers are definitely qualified! They receive specific training and certification from the IRS before they can prepare returns. Many are accounting students, retired tax professionals, or people who work in finance. They don't offer audit guarantees like paid services might, but their accuracy rate is excellent because they focus specifically on less complicated returns like those claiming EITC. They also have a quality review process where a second volunteer checks everything before filing. I've used them for 5 years with no issues whatsoever!

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Remember that if your baby was born in 2024, they count as your dependent for the ENTIRE year, even though they weren't here the whole time! This surprises a lot of new parents. You get the full Child Tax Credit and they count for EITC purposes for all of 2024. Also make sure you're getting any state tax credits too! Many states have their own version of EITC that piggybacks off the federal one, so you could get even more money back.

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That seems so weird that a baby born in December counts the same as one born in January for tax purposes. Is that really how it works? Seems like a loophole!

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Yuki Nakamura

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It's not really a loophole - it's just how the tax code is designed! Tax years run from January 1 to December 31, and your family status is determined as of December 31st. So if you have a qualifying child on the last day of the year, they count for the whole year. Same thing happens with other life events like getting married - if you get married on December 31st, you can file as married for the entire year. It's actually pretty standard across most tax situations!

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Amended state tax return accepted 2/7, processing date 3/10 - When will I receive $8,832 refund with codes 977 & 971?

So I had to amend my state return because of some code error. It was officially accepted on 2/8. Looking at my transcript today (March 2nd) and I can see the daily processing cycle is happening, but I'm not sure when I should actually expect my refund. Here's what my transcript shows: United States Department of the Treasury This Product Contains Sensitive Taxpayer Data Request Date: 03-02-2025 Response Date: 2025 Account Transcript FORM NUMBER: 1040 TAX PERIOD: Dec. 31, 2024 ACCOUNT BALANCE: 0.00 ACCRUED INTEREST: 0.00 AS OF: Mar. 17, 2025 ACCRUED PENALTY: 0.00 AS OF: Mar. 17, 2025 ACCOUNT BALANCE PLUS ACCRUALS (this is not a payoff amount): -8,932.00 INFORMATION FROM THE RETURN OR AS ADJUSTED EXEMPTIONS: 03 FILING STATUS: Head of Household RETURN DUE DATE OR RETURN RECEIVED DATE (WHICHEVER IS LATER): Apr. 15, 2025 PROCESSING DATE: Mar. 10, 2025 TRANSACTIONS CODE EXPLANATION OF TRANSACTION | CYCLE | DATE | AMOUNT 150 Tax return filed | 20250805 | 03-10-2025 806 W-2 or 1099 withholding | 04-15-2025 971 Amended tax return or claim forwarded for processing | 02-08-2025 | $0.00 977 Amended return filed | 02-08-2025 | $0.00 766 Credit to your account | 04-15-2025 | -$1,300.00 971 Amended/duplicate tax return processed to wrong identifying number or tax P | 202212 768 Earned income credit | 04-16-2025 The transcript shows code 977 "Amended return filed" from 2/8, and also code 971 "Amended tax return or claim forwarded for processing". There's also some credit amount showing -$1,300 with code 766, and it looks like I have an earned income credit listed as well (code 768). I notice my account balance plus accruals shows -$8,932.00, but I'm not sure if that's what I'll be getting or when. I filed as Head of Household with 3 exemptions. The processing date shows as March 10, 2025, but I'm wondering if that means I need to wait until then before anything happens with my refund? Has anyone been through this amended return process? How long should it typically take from acceptance (2/8) to getting the money? I'm especially confused by the second 971 code that mentions "processed to wrong identifying number or tax P" - should I be concerned about that?

Unrelated but does anybody have experience with getting refunds on EIC when amending? My returns just got accepted with a similar code but I'm concerned about the EIC processing time.

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Emily Parker

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Looking at your transcript, you're actually in pretty good shape! The processing date of March 10th is when your amendment will be fully processed, not when you have to wait until. That second 971 code with "202212" is likely just a system notation - I wouldn't worry about it unless you get a notice. Your account balance of -$8,832 is promising - that negative balance typically indicates what you'll receive as a refund. The $1,300 credit (code 766) is probably just one component of your total refund. Since you're on the daily processing cycle (which is faster than weekly), and your amendment was accepted 2/8, you're looking at roughly 8-12 weeks total processing time. So expect your refund somewhere between early April to early May. Keep checking for code 846 - that's when your refund is officially issued and should hit your account within 3-5 business days after that. The EIC (code 768) is a good sign too - that's additional refundable credit that will be included in your final refund amount. Just be patient, your amendment is moving through the system normally!

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Why Is My $23,973 IRS Refund Frozen With Code 810 When My Transcript Shows $0 Income and Processing Date After Freeze?

I just pulled my 2022 account transcript dated March 10, 2023 and I'm seeing a refund amount of -$24,973.00 but there's something concerning me. Looking at my transcript in detail, it shows: Internal Revenue Service United States Department of the Treasury Request Date: 03-10-2023 Response Date: 03-10-2023 Tracking Number: [redacted] My ACCOUNT BALANCE shows -$24,973.00 ACCRUED INTEREST: $0.00 AS OF: Mar. 27, 2023 ACCRUED PENALTY: $0.00 AS OF: Mar. 27, 2023 ACCOUNT BALANCE PLUS ACCRUALS (this is not a payoff amount): -$24,973.00 The transcript shows the following information from my return: EXEMPTIONS: 01 FILING STATUS: Single ADJUSTED GROSS INCOME: $0.00 TAXABLE INCOME: $0.00 TAX PER RETURN: $0.00 SE TAXABLE INCOME TAXPAYER: $0.00 RETURN DUE DATE OR RETURN RECEIVED DATE (WHICHEVER IS LATER) Apr. 15, 2023 PROCESSING DATE Mar. 27, 2023 What's concerning me is this refund freeze (code 810) from February 2, 2023. The TRANSACTIONS section shows: CODE EXPLANATION OF TRANSACTION - CYCLE DATE - AMOUNT 150 Tax return filed - 20231005 03-27-2023 - $0.00 30211-425-20579-3 810 Refund freeze - 02-02-2023 - $0.00 766 Credit to your account - 04-15-2023 - -$24,973.00 Can someone explain what this freeze code 810 means and when I might actually receive my $24,973 refund? The credit is showing for April 15th but with this freeze code, I'm not sure what to expect. Is it normal to have a refund freeze dated before my return was even processed? My processing date shows as March 27, 2023, but the freeze is from February 2nd. Also, why does my transcript show $0.00 for adjusted gross income and taxable income yet I'm due such a large refund?

StormChaser

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Wait until you see cycle code 0605. That's when things start moving!

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Mei Wong

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whats a cycle code? where do i find that?

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StormChaser

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its in that string of numbers under your 150 code. yours is 20231005

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Omar Fawaz

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I had a similar situation last year with an 810 freeze and zero income showing on my transcript. The IRS typically places these holds when there's a mismatch between reported income and refundable credits claimed. Since you're showing $0 AGI but claiming nearly $24K in refunds, they want to verify your eligibility for credits like EITC and CTC. The freeze date being before your processing date is actually normal - the IRS can flag returns for review during initial processing. In my case, the freeze lasted about 8-10 weeks after the processing date. You might get a CP05 notice asking for documentation to support your credits. My advice: gather all your supporting docs (W-2s, 1099s, proof of dependents, etc.) and wait for correspondence. Calling won't speed things up much, but you can check if they need anything specific from you.

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