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How do I correctly write off international wages for Filipino employees?

I could use some guidance on how to handle international wages for tax purposes. I have an LLC set up as an S Corp for my online business, and I've been handling all the accounting myself with spreadsheets. I currently have about 15 employees in the Philippines that I pay through Wise (formerly TransferWise) - it's an app for international transfers similar to PayPal. Over the past 7 months, I've paid around $67,000 to these team members through Wise. My main questions are: 1) What's the correct way to make these international wages a write-off? I'm considering: A) Issuing a 1099 to Wise directly B) Having each employee complete Form W-8BEN 2) What's the proper way to categorize this on my expense sheet? My biggest concern is making sure I'm not taxed on the $67,000 I've paid out to my international team. Any help would be greatly appreciated!

The good news is that you're on the right track with your thinking! Since your business is an S Corp, those international wages are absolutely deductible business expenses, just like any other legitimate business expense. You don't need to issue 1099s to your Filipino employees since they're not US persons. Form W-8BEN is the right direction - this form certifies that they're foreign persons not subject to US withholding. Keep these forms on file for your records. As for how to categorize the expense, you'd typically list it as "Contract Labor" or "Outsourced Services" on your books. When filing your S Corp tax return (Form 1120-S), these expenses would go on Line 8 - "Salaries and wages" or potentially Line 26 - "Other deductions" with a clear description. Make sure you keep detailed records of all payments, including dates, amounts, recipients, and business purposes. Having a paper trail is crucial if you're ever audited.

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Thanks for the helpful info! A few follow-up questions: Do I need to get the W-8BEN from each employee every year, or is it a one-time thing? Also, should I be concerned about any reporting requirements with the IRS for these international payments?

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A W-8BEN is generally valid for three years from the date it was signed, unless there's a change in circumstances that makes the information on the form incorrect. So you don't need to get a new one annually. Regarding reporting requirements, if you're making payments to foreign persons for services performed outside the US, there's typically no specific IRS reporting requirement beyond normal business expense documentation. However, if the payments were for services performed within the US or if they involve certain types of income like royalties or interest, different rules might apply. Since your employees are in the Philippines and presumably working there, you're likely in the clear on additional reporting.

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Don't forget about currency exchange issues too. I've been paying international contractors for years, and the fluctuating exchange rates can create accounting headaches. Make sure you're tracking the USD value on the date of each payment. Some years I've had significant "gains" or "losses" on paper just from exchange rate changes. Also, if you're paying over $10k to any single individual annually, there might be additional reporting requirements. This is where having a tax professional who specializes in international business can really help.

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That's a good point about exchange rates! Wise does give me reports showing the exact USD value of each transaction, so hopefully that's sufficient documentation. Are these currency fluctuations something I need to report separately somewhere on my taxes?

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The Wise reports showing USD values at time of transaction are perfect documentation to have. For S Corps, you'll generally report any significant currency gains/losses on Form 1120-S as "Other Income" or "Other Deductions" depending on whether you had a net gain or loss. Most small businesses don't need to report minor currency fluctuations separately unless they're substantial. If the total amount is less than 1-2% of your overall business expenses, it's usually considered immaterial. But definitely track it for your own records, and if it becomes significant, discuss with your tax preparer.

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A common mistake I see businesses make is forgetting about state tax implications. Even if you're handling federal taxes correctly, some states have different rules for international contractors. What state is your S Corp registered in? That can make a big difference in your filing requirements.

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This is so true! My California-based business got hit with unexpected state requirements even though I was handling the federal side correctly. The rules vary wildly by state.

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Great question! I've been dealing with similar international contractor payments for my consulting business. One thing I'd add to the excellent advice already given is to make sure you're consistent with your categorization across all your financial records. Since you're using Wise for payments, I'd recommend exporting their transaction reports monthly and reconciling them with your spreadsheet records. This creates a clear audit trail showing the business purpose of each payment. Also, when you collect those W-8BEN forms from your Filipino team members, consider creating a simple tracking spreadsheet with expiration dates so you know when to request renewals (every 3 years as Miguel mentioned). I learned this the hard way when I realized half my forms had expired during tax season! The $67k in payments will definitely reduce your taxable income as legitimate business expenses, so you're smart to get this documented properly now rather than scrambling later.

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