Tax Forms Required When Paying Overseas Independent Contractors - What Do I Need?
Hey all, I need some guidance on tax requirements for international contractors. I've been growing my digital marketing business recently, and I'm in the process of building a remote team with people from different countries. Currently I have several contractors working through Fiverr, which handles all the tax paperwork as the middleman. But I'm planning to bring my core team off that platform and manage payments directly to save on fees and have more control. My contractors are mainly based in Thailand and Ukraine. They're all non-US citizens who live and work 100% outside the US. I'm a sole proprietor based in the US. Questions I'm struggling with: 1) Do I need these overseas contractors to fill out W9 forms? From what I've read, I don't think so since they're foreign nationals working entirely outside the US. 2) Should I have them complete W-8BEN forms instead? My understanding is this just documents they're foreign contractors, but I keep these forms in my records rather than submitting them with my taxes. Is that right? 3) For contractors in Thailand and Ukraine - since they're not US citizens and don't do any work in the US, I don't think I need to withhold any US taxes from their payments. Can someone confirm? Also, do they need to complete the tax treaty section (section II) of the W-8BEN? 4) Is there any earnings threshold where foreign contractors suddenly need to file US tax forms? Assuming they remain non-US citizens working 100% outside the US. 5) I keep detailed records - timesheets, payment invoices, transaction logs, bank statements. What other documentation should I maintain for IRS purposes? 6) Just curious - if I ever hired someone as an employee (not contractor) who was a foreign national working 100% in their home country, would that require W-2 and tax withholdings, or is it handled similarly to contractors? Appreciate any insights while I wait for my accountant to return from vacation!
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GalaxyGazer
I handle international contractors for several businesses, so I can help with this! For non-US citizens living and working entirely outside the US, you don't need W-9 forms - those are only for US persons. You're correct that you need W-8BEN forms instead. These forms certify that your contractors are foreign persons, and yes, you keep these in your files rather than submitting them to the IRS. They're good for three years unless circumstances change. Regarding withholding - generally, you don't need to withhold US taxes from payments to foreign contractors performing services entirely outside the US. This is because the income isn't considered US-source income. They should still complete Section II of the W-8BEN if their country has a tax treaty with the US (both Thailand and Ukraine do), but it mainly affects withholding which likely isn't required in your situation anyway. There's no earnings threshold that suddenly makes them subject to US taxes if they remain foreign persons working entirely outside the US. The key factor is where the work is performed, not how much they earn. Your recordkeeping sounds excellent! In addition to what you're already keeping, I'd recommend: signed contracts specifying the nature of the relationship, documentation showing they're established businesses in their home countries, and communications proving they make their own schedules and use their own equipment.
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Oliver Wagner
•Thanks for the detailed response! I'm in a similar situation but some of my contractors occasionally visit the US for meetings. Would that affect anything tax-wise? Also, what happens if they initially do all work abroad but then relocate to the US while still working for me?
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GalaxyGazer
•If your contractors visit the US for occasional meetings, that usually doesn't change their tax status as long as the vast majority of their work is still performed outside the US. However, if they spend significant time working while in the US (generally 183 days or more in a calendar year), that portion of their income could be considered US-source income subject to different tax rules. If a contractor relocates to the US while continuing to work for you, their tax status would change significantly. They would likely need to obtain proper work authorization, and you would need to have them complete a W-9 instead of a W-8BEN. Depending on their specific situation, you might need to treat them as a US contractor and issue a 1099-NEC, or potentially even consider whether they should be classified as an employee. This would be a situation where consulting with a tax professional is particularly important.
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Natasha Kuznetsova
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Javier Mendoza
•How does it work with constantly changing tax laws? I'm working with contractors in Brazil and India and getting conflicting advice from different sources. Does it actually tell you what forms you need or just general information?
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StarStrider
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StarStrider
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Ravi Gupta
One thing nobody's mentioned yet - if your foreign contractors are COMPANIES (like an LLC or corporation) rather than individuals, they should fill out a W-8BEN-E instead of a regular W-8BEN. Different form, similar purpose. I learned this the hard way when I had contractors in Australia who operated through their own companies. Had to redo all the paperwork. Also, keep in mind that the W-8 forms expire after three years, so you need a system to track and renew them.
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Amina Sow
•Thanks for pointing that out! A few of my contractors in Ukraine do operate through their own business entities. Do you know if there's any substantive difference in how the W-8BEN-E is processed compared to the regular W-8BEN? Or is it mainly just collecting different identifying information?
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Ravi Gupta
•The W-8BEN-E is more complex than the regular W-8BEN because it includes information about the company's tax classification and whether it's subject to FATCA (Foreign Account Tax Compliance Act) requirements. The entity has to specify what type of organization it is and its tax status. The processing is basically the same - you collect and keep the form for your records as documentation. You don't submit it to the IRS unless specifically requested. The purpose remains proving they're foreign entities not subject to US withholding requirements.
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Freya Pedersen
Quick note about your last question regarding employees vs contractors: Foreign EMPLOYEES are completely different from contractors! If you hire someone as an actual employee (even if they work 100% abroad), you generally enter the US international tax system and might need to: 1. Register with foreign tax authorities 2. Potentially withhold for foreign social programs 3. Deal with totalization agreements between the US and that country 4. Handle complex payroll requirements It can get extremely complicated fast. Many companies use Professional Employer Organizations (PEOs) or Employer of Record (EOR) services in foreign countries to handle this instead of direct employment.
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Omar Hassan
•Could you expand on this? I'm thinking of hiring someone in Canada as an employee. Is there a threshold where this becomes necessary or is it required for any employment relationship?
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Katherine Hunter
Great thread! I'm a tax preparer who specializes in international contractor issues, and I wanted to add a few practical points based on what I see clients struggle with: For your Thailand and Ukraine contractors - you're absolutely right that W-8BEN is the correct form (not W-9). One thing to watch out for: make sure your contractors understand they need to sign the form under penalties of perjury. I've seen situations where contractors treated it as just paperwork and didn't realize the legal significance. Regarding documentation, beyond what you mentioned, I'd strongly recommend keeping copies of any invoices that clearly show the work was performed outside the US. This becomes crucial if you're ever audited - the IRS wants to see proof that services were actually rendered abroad. One red flag to avoid: Don't have your foreign contractors use US business addresses or phone numbers in their invoicing, even for convenience. This can create questions about where work was actually performed. Also, since you mentioned growing your business - if you start paying any single foreign contractor over $600 per year, you'll want to be extra diligent about your W-8BEN collection and record-keeping, even though you won't be issuing 1099s to foreign contractors. The employee vs contractor distinction becomes even more important internationally because misclassification can trigger not just US penalties but potentially foreign employment law issues too.
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Connor O'Reilly
•This is incredibly helpful, thank you! The point about invoices showing work performed outside the US is something I hadn't considered. Most of my contractors just send basic invoices with hours and rates - should I be asking them to include their location or some other indication of where the work was completed? Also, what constitutes sufficient proof that services were rendered abroad? Is it enough if their invoices show their foreign address, or do I need something more detailed like time tracking with location data?
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Diego Chavez
As someone who's been managing international contractors for the past few years, I can confirm most of the advice here is spot-on. I want to add a few practical tips from my experience: For the W-8BEN forms - set up a system to track expiration dates since they're only valid for 3 years. I use a simple spreadsheet with renewal reminders 6 months before expiration. This prevents scrambling when you realize a form has expired mid-project. Regarding payment methods - be careful with how you pay your contractors. Some payment platforms (like PayPal or Wise) automatically generate tax documents that can create confusion. Make sure your payment method aligns with your tax strategy. One thing I learned the hard way: if any of your contractors ever do even minor work while visiting the US (like attending a video call during a US trip), document that it was incidental to their primary work abroad. The IRS looks at the totality of where services are performed, not just the contractor's home base. Also, consider having your contractors acknowledge in writing that they're responsible for their own tax obligations in their home countries. This creates a paper trail showing you both understand the tax responsibilities and helps demonstrate the independent contractor relationship. The record-keeping you described sounds comprehensive - just make sure you're backing up digital records and keeping physical copies of signed forms in case of system failures.
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