Filing Schedule C for business expenses involving art commissions from non-US citizens abroad
Hey all, I'm running into some confusion with my tax filing this year. I have a small business where a huge portion of my expenses come from commissioning artwork from international artists (non-US citizens who live abroad). I've got a few questions that are stumping me: 1. When I list these commissions as business expenses on Schedule C, should they be categorized under "Contract Labor"? 2. For artists I paid over $600 in 2024 who are not US citizens and don't live in the US, do I need to have them complete W-8BEN forms if I put the expenses under "Contract Labor"? 3. If I decide not to claim these payments as business expenses, would the artists still need to fill out W-8BEN forms? 4. What personal information do I actually need to collect from these artists? Most of them I only know by their usernames (though I do know some real names). What happens if I can't get all the required information from them? This is my first year with significant international art commissions, and I want to make sure I'm handling everything correctly. Any help would be super appreciated!
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Aiden Rodríguez
The good news is that you're asking the right questions before filing! For your Schedule C situation with international artists: 1. Yes, payments to independent contractors (which is what these artists would be classified as) should go under "Contract Labor" on your Schedule C. 2. You should generally request W-8BEN forms from foreign contractors who you pay over $600. This form certifies they're not US persons and helps determine proper tax withholding. The responsibility is on you as the payer to request these forms, though the artists need to complete them. 3. Whether or not you claim them as business expenses doesn't change the W-8BEN requirement. If you paid them for services, the reporting requirements exist independently of your decision to deduct. 4. At minimum, you'll need their full legal name and address. For the W-8BEN, they'll also need to include their country of citizenship and tax residence, along with a foreign tax ID if applicable (or a statement that they don't have one). If you can't obtain all information, document your good-faith efforts to comply. Payments to foreign contractors can be complex - if you're having trouble getting the required documentation, you might want to consult with a tax professional who specializes in international payments.
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Emma Garcia
•Thanks for this info. Just to clarify, if I can't get W-8BENs from all the artists, should I still claim the expenses? Or would I be better off not claiming them to avoid potential issues? I'm worried because some artists might be hard to track down now. Also, do I need to submit the W-8BENs with my tax return or just keep them for my records?
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Aiden Rodríguez
•You should still claim legitimate business expenses regardless of whether you've secured W-8BENs from all artists. Just be prepared to show you made reasonable attempts to comply with the documentation requirements if audited. Keep detailed records of all payments, correspondence requesting the forms, and any responses you received. You don't submit W-8BENs with your tax return. These forms should be kept in your records for at least 3 years after the due date of the return or the date you file, whichever is later. They're only provided to the IRS if specifically requested during an audit or review.
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Ava Kim
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Ethan Anderson
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Noah Ali
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Chloe Boulanger
One thing nobody has mentioned yet - make sure you're tracking the currency conversion rates for each payment! The IRS wants all amounts reported in USD, so you need to use the conversion rate from the date each payment was made. I learned this the hard way when I was audited for my Schedule C with international contractor expenses. I had just used an average conversion rate for the year, and that was a big no-no. Had to recalculate everything and ended up owing more due to conversion rate fluctuations.
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Maya Patel
•Oh wow, I hadn't even thought about the currency conversion documentation! Most of my payments have been through PayPal - do you know if their conversion rates are acceptable for IRS purposes? Or should I be using some official government conversion rate?
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Chloe Boulanger
•PayPal conversion rates should be fine as long as you have the documentation showing the actual USD amount that was charged to your account. The key is having records showing the exact USD amount paid on specific dates. If PayPal doesn't clearly show this (sometimes their reporting can be confusing), you can use the Treasury Department's official exchange rates or another reputable source like OANDA or XE. Just be consistent with whichever source you choose and keep documentation of the rates you used along with the dates of payment.
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James Martinez
I disagree with some advice here. I've been commissioning international artists for years for my business, and I've never collected W-8BENs from them. My accountant told me it's only necessary if you're withholding taxes, which typically isn't required for services performed entirely outside the US. I just categorize them under "Contract Labor" on Schedule C and keep detailed payment records. No issues with audits so far.
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Olivia Harris
•Dangerous advice! The W-8BEN requirement isn't just about withholding - it's about properly documenting the status of who you're paying. Without it, you technically can't verify they're foreign persons exempt from US reporting requirements. Your accountant is taking a risk that might have worked out so far, but the IRS is increasing scrutiny of international payments. Just because you haven't been audited doesn't mean the approach is compliant.
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