Filing Schedule C with international artist commissions - do I include in Contract Labor?
I run a small business where I commission artwork primarily from artists who live outside the US and aren't US citizens. I have some questions about how to handle this on my Schedule C for 2024 taxes. 1. When claiming these commissions as business expenses, should they go under "Contract Labor" on my Schedule C? 2. If they do belong under "Contract Labor," are the artists responsible for providing me with a W-8BEN form? Most of these artists were paid over $600 in 2024, but none are US citizens or live in the US. 3. If I decide not to claim the money I paid them as a business expense, would they still need to fill out a W-8BEN? 4. What personal information do I need to collect from these artists? Right now, I only have their usernames and real names in some cases. What happens if I can't get all the required information from them? I'm worried about doing this wrong and causing problems with my return. Any help would be appreciated!
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Anthony Young
Yes, payments to artists would typically go under "Contract Labor" on your Schedule C. This is the appropriate category for independent contractors you've hired for your business. For international artists, you generally need Form W-8BEN from each artist who received $600+ to document they aren't subject to US withholding. This form serves as certification of their foreign status. You don't need to send these forms to the IRS, but you should keep them in your records for at least 3 years. You still need the W-8BEN forms regardless of whether you deduct the expenses. If you paid them for business purposes, you should definitely claim the legitimate expenses though. For documentation, you need their legal name, address, and country of residence. You also need their foreign tax ID if available, or a statement that they don't have one. Without this information, you technically should withhold 30% of payments, which gets complicated.
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Charlotte White
•Thanks for this info. Do you know if I can get W-8BEN forms after the fact? I've already paid these artists throughout 2024 and didn't collect any forms. Also, can they just email me the form or does it have to be physically mailed?
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Anthony Young
•You can definitely get W-8BEN forms after the fact. The form documents their status for the payments you've already made, so collecting them now is fine. They can email you signed copies of the forms - electronic signatures are acceptable. The forms remain valid for three years from the date of signing unless their circumstances change. Just make sure you keep these records in case of an audit.
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Admin_Masters
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Matthew Sanchez
•Did it work with artists who only had usernames? I'm in a similar situation and some of my contractors only use their online handles. Not sure how to handle the legal name requirement.
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Matthew Sanchez
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Royal_GM_Mark
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Amelia Cartwright
One thing nobody mentioned yet - you should also check if any of these artists are in countries with tax treaties with the US. Some countries have specific rules about how commissions are handled. For example, I work with artists in Canada and there's different documentation requirements than for artists in, say, Brazil.
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Aurora Lacasse
•That's a good point! Do you know if there's a resource where I can look up which countries have tax treaties with the US? Most of my artists are from Japan, South Korea, and a few from the UK.
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Amelia Cartwright
•The IRS has a complete list of tax treaties on their website. Japan, South Korea, and the UK all have tax treaties with the US, which is good news for you! For these countries, you still need the W-8BEN, but the artists might qualify for reduced withholding rates or exemptions depending on the specific treaty. This is another reason to make sure you get those forms completed properly - they allow the artists to claim treaty benefits if applicable.
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Chris King
I messed up this exact situation last year and got hit with a CP2000 notice. Make SURE you keep proof of payments and all communications with these artists. The IRS flagged my contractor payments because I couldn't prove some were to foreign individuals. Even if you can't get W-8BENs from everyone, save emails, payment receipts, anything showing they're international.
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Rachel Clark
•What happened with the CP2000? Did you have to pay penalties or just provide the documentation after the fact?
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