Paying foreign independent contractors abroad - W8 BEN form questions
We're a small tech startup (C-corp) looking to outsource a project to contractors overseas. We understand that payments to independent contractors will be tax deductible on our end, but I'm trying to figure out the best payment method. Wire transfers seem like the obvious choice, but the fees are ridiculous - like $35-45 per transaction which adds up quickly when we're talking about regular payments to multiple people. My question is: Does the IRS care HOW we send money to these international contractors as long as we have their W8-BEN forms on file? Can we use cryptocurrency (much lower fees) or other alternative payment methods instead of traditional wire transfers? Are there any tax implications or documentation requirements that differ based on the payment method? We want to do everything properly for tax purposes while minimizing unnecessary fees. Any advice would be appreciated!
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Fidel Carson
The IRS is primarily concerned that you have proper documentation and reporting, not the specific payment method you use. Here's what you need to know: First, make sure you have a completed W-8BEN form (for individuals) or W-8BEN-E (for entities) from each contractor before making payments. This establishes they're foreign persons not subject to US withholding. As for payment methods, you have flexibility. Cryptocurrency, PayPal, Wise (formerly TransferWise), or other services are all acceptable as long as you maintain proper records of the payments. The key is having documentation that shows who you paid, when, how much, and for what services. Keep in mind that while the payment method doesn't matter for IRS purposes, you'll still need to report payments to foreign contractors on Form 1042-S if they performed services in the US. If all services are performed outside the US, you typically don't need to file 1042-S, but you should still track expenses for your business deductions.
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Isaiah Sanders
•Thanks for the detailed response. Quick follow-up questions: 1) Do we need to include any specific documentation in our records if we use crypto? Like screenshots of the transaction or something? 2) For services performed 100% outside the US, do we still need to collect W-8BEN forms even if we don't need to file 1042-S?
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Fidel Carson
•For crypto payments, I recommend keeping detailed transaction records including the date, amount in both crypto and USD value at time of transaction, wallet addresses, and connecting these payments to specific invoices. Screenshots are good, but also export transaction records from your exchange or wallet. Yes, you should still collect W-8BEN forms even if services are performed entirely outside the US. The form protects you in case there's ever a question about whether you should have withheld taxes. It's your documentation proving the contractor was a foreign person not subject to US withholding requirements.
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Xan Dae
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Fiona Gallagher
•How does taxr.ai handle situations where contractors are in countries with tax treaties vs non-treaty countries? I have people in both situations and my accountant keeps telling me the requirements are different.
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Thais Soares
•Sounds interesting, but I'm skeptical. Can this actually help with the crypto payment documentation? My biggest concern is making sure we have the right records if we get audited since crypto is still a grey area for many accountants.
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Xan Dae
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Thais Soares
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Axel Bourke
•How does this actually work? Do they just call the IRS for you? Couldn't I just do that myself if I'm willing to wait on hold?
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Aidan Percy
•Yeah right. No way they're getting through to the IRS in 20 minutes when I've been trying for literal DAYS. Sounds like a scam to me. The IRS doesn't even answer their phones anymore.
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Nalani Liu
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Aidan Percy
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Fernanda Marquez
I use Wise (formerly TransferWise) for all my international contractor payments. The fees are WAY cheaper than wire transfers (like 0.5-1% compared to the flat $30-50 for wires), and it's fully trackable for tax purposes. My accountant says the records from Wise are perfect for substantiating the business expense deductions. Just make sure you download monthly statements that show all payments for your records. And definitely still get those W-8BEN forms regardless of payment method!
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Ana Rusula
•Thanks for suggesting Wise - I've heard of it before but wasn't sure if it was legit for business payments. Are there any limits to how much you can send per transaction? Some of our payments might be in the $5-10k range.
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Fernanda Marquez
•Wise does have transaction limits, but they're pretty high. For business accounts, you can send up to $1 million per transaction in most cases, definitely covering your $5-10k range. They also offer better exchange rates than banks by far. One thing to note though - make sure you're using a business account rather than a personal one for these transactions. The documentation is better for tax purposes, and you'll have access to more features like batch payments if you're paying multiple contractors at once.
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Norman Fraser
Has anyone actually used crypto for contractor payments and gone through an audit? I'm worried about the exchange rate documentation. How do you prove what the USD value was at the exact moment of payment?
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Kendrick Webb
•I've been paying my developers in various countries via crypto for about 3 years now. For documentation, I capture screenshots of the exchange rate at the time of transaction from a major exchange (Coinbase), and I also use a service that provides historical crypto prices. Each payment is linked to a specific invoice number. My company was audited last year (not specifically for the crypto payments, just a random audit), and the IRS didn't have any issues with our documentation approach. The key was showing the USD value at time of payment and having a consistent methodology.
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Chloe Harris
As someone who's been dealing with international contractor payments for the past few years, I can confirm that the IRS really doesn't care about your payment method as long as you have proper documentation. I've used everything from traditional wire transfers to crypto to digital payment platforms. The most important things to remember: 1. Always get W-8BEN forms BEFORE making any payments - this protects you from withholding requirements 2. Keep detailed records of every payment including USD value at time of transaction (especially important for crypto) 3. Connect each payment to specific invoices/work deliverables 4. If using crypto, document the exchange rate from a reliable source at the exact time of payment I switched away from wire transfers years ago due to the ridiculous fees. Currently using a mix of Wise for larger payments (great rates, professional documentation) and occasionally crypto for tech contractors who prefer it. Both have worked well during tax season and my accountant has never had issues with the documentation. The key is consistency - whatever method you choose, make sure you're documenting it the same way every time.
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