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This is a classic case of an employer misunderstanding how payroll withholding works. Your boss is conflating the standard deduction (which reduces your taxable income when you file your return) with payroll withholding requirements, but these are completely separate things. Federal income tax should be withheld from every paycheck based on your W-4 form and the IRS withholding tables - there's no "threshold" where withholding doesn't start until you earn a certain amount. The fact that you're seeing zero federal income tax withheld on your pay stub confirms your employer is handling this incorrectly. You'll want to address this quickly because if proper withholding doesn't happen throughout the year, you could face underpayment penalties when you file your taxes, even if you ultimately don't owe much. I'd recommend showing your employer the IRS Publication 15 (Employer's Tax Guide) which clearly explains withholding requirements, or having them consult with a payroll professional to get this fixed properly.
This is exactly right. I've seen this confusion so many times with small business owners who take over payroll without really understanding the rules. The IRS Publication 15 suggestion is spot on - it's the official guide that clearly explains that withholding must happen on every paycheck regardless of annual earnings thresholds. One thing to add is that if your employer continues to resist fixing this after you show them the official guidance, you might want to document everything (pay stubs, conversations, etc.) because you may need to prove to the IRS later that this was an employer error, not your choice to under-withhold taxes.
Your employer is definitely wrong about this. There's no federal tax threshold where withholding doesn't start until you earn a certain amount during the year. Federal income tax withholding should begin with your very first paycheck based on your W-4 form and the IRS withholding tables. What your boss might be confusing is the standard deduction ($14,600 for single filers in 2025), but that only affects your final tax liability when you file your return - it doesn't change the requirement to withhold taxes from each paycheck throughout the year. Since you confirmed no federal income tax is being withheld, you should definitely address this with your employer immediately. You could end up owing a significant amount at tax time, potentially with underpayment penalties. I'd suggest filling out a new W-4 form and asking your employer to start proper withholding right away. If they resist, you might need to make quarterly estimated tax payments yourself using Form 1040-ES to avoid penalties. Document everything in case you need to show the IRS later that this was an employer error, not your choice to under-withhold.
This is really helpful advice! I'm dealing with a similar situation where my employer seems confused about withholding rules. The documentation tip is smart - I hadn't thought about keeping records in case I need to prove this was the employer's mistake later. Quick question though - when you mention making quarterly estimated payments with Form 1040-ES, how do you calculate how much to pay if your employer is withholding some taxes correctly (like Social Security and Medicare) but not federal income tax? Is there a way to figure out just the federal income tax portion you should be paying quarterly?
I went through this exact situation two years ago when I moved from Illinois to Texas in September. The good news is that you absolutely don't need a new driver's license to file your federal taxes - the IRS doesn't require it at all. However, you should definitely update your address with the IRS using Form 8822 if you haven't already. For state taxes, you'll likely need to file as a part-year resident in both your old state and new state. Some states do ask for driver's license numbers during e-filing for identity verification, but many will accept your current valid license even if it's from your previous state. The key thing is making sure you have documentation of when you moved (lease agreements, utility bills, etc.) to properly allocate your income between the two states. That said, you really should get your new state license soon - most states require it within 30-90 days of establishing residency, and it's completely separate from tax filing requirements. I learned this lesson when I got a warning from a state trooper about 4 months after my move!
This is really helpful, thank you! I had no idea about Form 8822 for updating my address with the IRS. Quick question - when you filed as a part-year resident in both states, did you run into any issues with double taxation? I'm worried about getting taxed on the same income by both states. Also, do you remember roughly how much extra it cost to file in two states vs just one?
Great question about double taxation! The good news is that most states have provisions to prevent this. When I filed as a part-year resident in both Illinois and Texas, I had to pay Illinois tax on income earned while I was still living there, but Texas doesn't have state income tax anyway so that made it easier. For states that do have income tax, you typically get a credit on one state's return for taxes paid to the other state on the same income. The key is properly allocating your income by the dates you lived in each state - so if you moved in September, you'd report January-September income to your old state and October-December to your new state. As for cost, it definitely adds up. Most tax software charges extra for each additional state return - usually around $40-50 per state. So instead of filing one state return, I had to pay for Illinois even though I only lived there part of the year. Totally worth it to avoid any compliance issues though!
You definitely don't need a new driver's license specifically for filing your federal taxes with the IRS - they don't require license information at all for federal returns. Your current valid license from your previous state is perfectly fine for any tax software that asks for ID verification (and you can often skip that step anyway). The more important issue is handling your state tax obligations correctly. Since you moved in October, you'll need to file part-year resident returns for both your old state and your new state. Your old state will want taxes on income earned January through October, and your new state will want taxes on income earned from October through December. For the state e-filing process, some states do require a driver's license number for identity verification, but most will accept your current valid license even if it's from your previous state. The key is having documentation of your move date (lease, utility bills, employment records) to properly split your income between the states. That said, you should definitely get your new state license soon since most states legally require you to update it within 30-90 days of establishing residency - that's separate from tax filing but something you'll want to handle to avoid potential fines!
Hey y'all, I work in financial aid (not for either company tho). The easiest way to figure this out is to just call MOHELA directly. When loans transfer, the new servicer gets all your history and account info, not just current status. If you made payments but they were all applied to principal due to the interest freeze, you probably won't get a 1098-E at all since that form is specifically for reporting interest paid of $600 or more. No interest paid = no form needed.
Calling is such a nightmare though. I tried calling MOHELA three times last week and waited over an hour each time, then got disconnected. Is there an email address or something we can use instead?
As someone who just went through this exact situation, I can confirm what others have said - you likely won't receive a 1098-E for 2024 if all your payments went to principal during the interest freeze. However, don't forget to check if you made any interest payments in early 2024 before the freeze ended or if there were any capitalized interest amounts when your loans transferred. One tip that saved me time: create accounts on both FedLoan AND MOHELA websites if you haven't already. Even though FedLoan transferred your loans, they might still have historical tax documents available in your old account. MOHELA should have your complete payment history now, but sometimes there are gaps during the transfer period. Also, keep detailed records of all payments you made during this transition period. Even if you don't get a 1098-E this year, having that documentation will be helpful when interest resumes and for future tax filings.
This is really helpful advice! I'm in a similar boat and hadn't thought about checking for capitalized interest during the transfer. Quick question - when you say "before the freeze ended," are you referring to payments made in early 2021 before the pause started, or were there periods where interest resumed briefly? I want to make sure I'm not missing anything that could qualify for the deduction. Also, did you find that having accounts on both servicer websites actually helped you access different information, or was it mostly redundant once everything transferred over?
FWIW I was in the same boat. E-filed on Feb 2. Got accepted same day. Transcript showed N/A until Mar 12. Was freaking out tbh. Called IRS twice (nightmare). Finally got thru. They confirmed my return was in the system. Just backlogged. Transcript updated suddenly one day. DD hit my acct 6 days later. Hang in there. System's overwhelmed rn.
I'm dealing with this exact same issue right now! Filed on March 5th, got accepted the same day, but my transcript still shows "N/A" for 2024. It's so frustrating because I really need that refund for some home repairs that can't wait much longer. Reading through everyone's experiences here is actually really reassuring though - sounds like this is just how the system is working (or not working) this year. I guess I'll stop checking my transcript obsessively and just wait it out. Thanks for posting this question, @Dmitry Volkov - at least now I know I'm not alone in this situation!
Margot Quinn
Literally just went through this nightmare. Here's my advice: 1) FILE THE 83B IMMEDIATELY. Send it certified mail with return receipt. 2) Get the company's 409A valuation in writing 3) Send a copy to your company and keep proof you did so 4) Find out if your state requires a separate filing (mine did) My buddy didn't file his 83b at the same company because he "didn't want to deal with the extra taxes now" and it was catastrophic when we got acquired 3 years later. His tax bill was over $180k higher than mine on identical grants because all his unvested shares were taxed at the acquisition price. The 30-day deadline is COMPLETELY REAL and the IRS has almost no exceptions. Courts have rejected appeals from people who missed the deadline by even a single day.
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Evelyn Kim
ā¢Can confirm this is accurate. I missed the 83b deadline by 3 days because of mail delays (always check the postmark requirements!) and ended up with a massive tax bill when my company went public. Tried to appeal with the IRS and got shut down immediately. The "optional" part is technically true - you don't HAVE to file it - but not filing it is like saying "I'd prefer to potentially pay 10x more in taxes later.
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Charlee Coleman
ā¢This is seriously helpful - thank you! Got the 409A valuation today ($0.03 per share) and I'm sending in the 83b tomorrow via certified mail. Will definitely be keeping copies of everything. I had no idea about potential state filings though - will need to look into that immediately.
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Liam Murphy
Holy cow, reading through all these responses has been eye-opening! I'm a tax professional and see this exact scenario play out constantly. Your employer's casual attitude about the 83b election is unfortunately very common, but it's also incredibly damaging to employees. What many people don't realize is that the 83b election isn't just about saving money on taxes - it also starts the clock on long-term capital gains treatment. If you file the 83b and hold your shares for more than a year after the grant date, any future gains will be taxed at the more favorable long-term capital gains rates instead of ordinary income rates. Also want to emphasize what others have said about the state filing requirements. Several states (like California) require separate 83b elections filed with state tax authorities. Missing the federal deadline is bad enough, but missing both federal AND state can be even more costly. The fact that your HR doesn't understand 409A valuations is a major red flag. Every company granting equity should have current 409A valuations - it's required for tax compliance. I'd strongly recommend getting this sorted out ASAP and maybe having a conversation with leadership about proper equity administration going forward.
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