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One important thing nobody has mentioned - make sure you understand how the title is currently held. Is it joint tenancy? Tenants in common? The way the ownership is structured on the deed makes a huge difference in how the gift tax works. In joint tenancy, each person owns an equal share. With tenants in common, the ownership can be split in any proportion (like 70/30). This affects the gift calculation when someone is removed. I learned this the hard way with my own family property!
This is so true. My parents put me on their house title as "joint tenants with rights of survivorship" which had totally different tax implications than if it had been "tenants in common." When we later changed the deed, the specific wording on the original affected everything.
This is definitely a complex situation that requires careful planning. One thing I'd strongly recommend is getting a professional appraisal of the property before any transfers happen. You'll need this to establish the fair market value for gift tax purposes. Also, consider the timing carefully. If your in-laws are older, there might be estate planning benefits to keeping them on the deed versus removing them now. Sometimes it's better from a tax perspective to inherit property rather than receive it as a gift because of the "stepped-up basis" rules. Before making any moves, I'd suggest consulting with both a tax professional and an estate planning attorney. The gift tax implications are just one piece of the puzzle - you also need to consider capital gains tax when you eventually sell, property tax reassessment in your state, and how this affects your in-laws' estate planning. The $375k value minus $220k mortgage leaves $155k in equity. If your in-laws own 50% of that equity, we're talking about a potential $77,500 gift per person, which would require gift tax reporting but likely no actual tax due given the lifetime exemption amounts.
This is really helpful advice about getting a professional appraisal! I hadn't thought about the stepped-up basis angle either. Could you explain more about how inheriting property vs receiving it as a gift affects the tax basis? My in-laws are in their late 60s, so this might be something worth considering in our decision-making process. Also, when you mention property tax reassessment - does removing owners from the deed typically trigger a reassessment in most states? We're in California if that makes a difference.
Great question about the stepped-up basis! When you inherit property, your tax basis becomes the fair market value at the time of inheritance, essentially "stepping up" from what the original owner paid. So if your in-laws bought the house for $200k and it's worth $375k when you inherit it, your basis becomes $375k. If you receive it as a gift, you keep their original basis (around $200k), meaning much higher capital gains tax when you sell. For California specifically - yes, removing owners from a deed can trigger a property tax reassessment under Proposition 13, but there are some family transfer exemptions. The parent-to-child exclusion might not apply here since it's in-laws, but you should definitely check with the county assessor about potential exemptions before making any transfers. California's property tax increases can be substantial, so this could be a major factor in your decision. Given that your in-laws are in their late 60s, the inheritance vs gift decision becomes even more important to analyze with a professional.
7 One thing nobody's mentioned yet is that you should check if your foreign contractors might be considered "effectively connected" with a US trade or business. If they're working remotely but technically performing services in the US market (it's complicated), you might have different reporting requirements. I got caught on this when hiring some Canadian freelancers who occasionally came to the US to work on projects. The IRS considered some of their income as US-sourced even though they were Canadian residents.
1 That's interesting - can you explain what makes someone "effectively connected" with US business? None of my freelancers ever come to the US physically. Would making YouTube content primarily for US audiences count as connected to US business?
7 It's not about the audience being in the US - it's about where the work is physically performed. If your freelancers are never physically present in the US while doing the work, they wouldn't typically be considered to have income effectively connected with a US trade or business. The IRS looks at where the person is physically located when performing the services. Since your contractors are working entirely from their home countries, they should be treated as foreign contractors, requiring W-8BENs but not 1099-NECs. That said, digital services taxation is evolving, so it's worth checking with a tax professional for your specific situation.
5 Hey! Something nobody's mentioned - make sure your record-keeping is solid for PAYMENTS too, not just the tax forms. I audit small biz tax returns and see people get hit with penalties bcuz they cant prove how much they actually paid to overseas contractors when asked. PayPal histories can disappear or get limited after certain time periods.
22 Good point! What's the best way to maintain those records? Is saving PDFs of PayPal transactions enough, or should I be doing something more formal?
PDF receipts are a good start, but I'd recommend creating a simple spreadsheet that tracks: contractor name, country, payment date, amount, PayPal transaction ID, and what project/service it was for. Export your PayPal data quarterly and back it up in multiple places. The IRS wants to see a clear business purpose for each payment, so having project details documented is crucial. Also keep copies of any invoices the contractors send you - that shows the business relationship clearly.
Anyone know if you have to amend previous tax returns if you never got these 1099-INTs from security deposits in past years? Just realized I've never reported this kind of interest before. š¬
Technically yes, you're supposed to report all income even if you don't get a form. But realistically, for small amounts like security deposit interest, the IRS isn't likely to come after you. If the landlord didn't issue 1099s, the IRS wouldn't know about it anyway. I wouldn't bother amending unless we're talking about significant amounts.
I went through this exact same situation last year! The key thing to remember is that even though it's a small amount, the IRS computer systems automatically match 1099 forms to tax returns, so you definitely want to report it to avoid any automated notices later. One tip that helped me: when you're entering it in TurboTax, make sure you enter the exact amount shown in Box 1 of the 1099-INT, even if it seems like an odd number. Don't round it. The software will handle all the calculations and put it in the right place on your return. Also, keep that 1099-INT with your tax records! If you ever get an IRS notice (unlikely for such a small amount, but possible), having the original form makes resolving it much easier.
Just to add something that might help - I work in a university HR department (not sharing which one for privacy). The rules about Medicare Qualified Government Wages for student employees can vary based on: 1) Whether your university is public or private 2) If it's during academic year or summer 3) Your credit hours (must usually be at least half-time) 4) Hours worked per week (usually must be under 20) 5) Whether your primary relationship with the school is as a student or employee If you're primarily a student who happens to work there (rather than primarily an employee who takes classes), that's a key factor. Your school's payroll office should have a specific "Student FICA Exemption" form or process to ensure you're classified correctly.
Thanks for this detailed info! I'm definitely primarily a student (taking 15 credit hours this semester) and only work 15 hours/week in the library. So it sounds like I should probably be exempt then? I'll check if my Medicare taxes are being withheld on my next paycheck. If they are, should I just go to the payroll office and ask about the Student FICA Exemption?
Yes, with 15 credit hours and working only 15 hours per week, you should absolutely qualify for the student FICA exemption! Check your paystub first to confirm whether Medicare taxes are being withheld. Look for a line that says "Medicare" or "MED" with a deduction amount - it's usually 1.45% of your gross wages. If you see Medicare taxes being withheld, definitely visit your campus payroll office in person and specifically ask about the Student FICA Exemption. Bring proof of your enrollment status (like your course schedule showing credit hours) and your work schedule. They may need to update your classification in their system. If they've been incorrectly withholding all semester, you can request a refund of those withholdings as well.
Don't forget to check if your university is a public or private institution! This matters for the "Medicare Qualified Government Wages" question. Public universities are considered government employers, while private ones aren't. For public university student workers, your W-2 will often have Box 5 (Medicare wages) amount different from Box 1 if you qualify for the student exemption. For private universities, the rules are slightly different. Also, the IRS has a "safe harbor" rule where if you are enrolled full-time OR work fewer than 30 hours/week, you're generally considered a student first, employee second for FICA purposes.
Can you explain more about the difference between public and private universities for this? I work at a private university in the admissions office and now I'm confused if different rules apply to me.
Great question! The distinction is important but the student FICA exemption rules are actually the same for both public and private universities. The difference is mainly in terminology and reporting: For public universities (government employers): Your wages might be labeled as "government wages" on tax forms, but if you qualify for the student exemption, they still won't be subject to Medicare tax. For private universities: The exemption works exactly the same way - if you're enrolled at least half-time and work under the hour thresholds, you're exempt from Medicare and Social Security taxes. The key factors for ANY university (public or private) are: 1) You must be enrolled at least half-time, 2) Your primary relationship with the school is as a student, and 3) You typically work fewer than 20 hours/week during academic terms. Since you work in admissions at a private university, you'd follow the same exemption rules. Check your paystub to see if Medicare taxes are being withheld - if you meet the criteria above, they shouldn't be!
Carmen Lopez
I encountered this exact issue last year after relocating from another country. The primary issue is that the IRS verification system utilizes a multi-factor authentication protocol that includes address verification against their master file database. In my case, I discovered that although I had filed with my new address, the master file had not been updated to reflect this change. After three unsuccessful attempts online, I utilized Form 8822 (Change of Address) separately from my tax filing. Approximately 4 weeks after submitting the 8822, I was able to successfully access my transcripts online. The key insight is that tax return processing and master file updates operate on different timelines and through different systems within the IRS infrastructure.
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AstroAdventurer
ā¢Wow, I had no idea about the Form 8822 being processed separately! That explains so much about why my address update through my tax return didn't seem to work. I've been banging my head against the wall trying to figure this out. Thank you for sharing this crucial piece of information!
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Andre Dupont
ā¢Did you submit the Form 8822 by mail or was there an online option? And did you receive any confirmation when the address change was processed?
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Zane Hernandez
I had this same frustrating experience! What worked for me was realizing that the IRS system sometimes takes up to 6-8 weeks to sync address changes from your tax return into their transcript verification system. Since you moved 8 months ago and filed in March, your 2023 return should be processed by now, but there might still be a lag. Here's what I'd suggest trying in order: 1. Use your OLD address from your 2022 return first - this catches a lot of people 2. If that doesn't work, try your new address but use the exact USPS standardized format (check usps.com address lookup tool) 3. Make sure you're not using any punctuation or abbreviations If the online system still won't work after trying both addresses, the phone line at 800-908-9946 is actually pretty reliable. It's automated, so no waiting for an agent, and they'll mail your transcript within 5-10 business days. Way better than paying the $43 fee! Don't give up on the online system completely though - sometimes it just takes one more processing cycle for everything to sync up properly.
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Giovanni Ricci
ā¢This is super helpful, thank you! I'm definitely going to try the USPS address lookup tool first - I never thought about the standardization difference between what I think my address is versus what the postal service has on file. The 6-8 week lag time also makes total sense given the timing of when I filed. It's reassuring to know the automated phone line is reliable too, since I was dreading having to wait on hold forever to talk to someone. Appreciate the step-by-step approach!
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